The Beginning in GT4

[Kurei]

I never felt poor in GT4, i just bought a used Evo I and i was pretty much set winning what i could and upgrading accordingly

But GT3 is when i felt "poor", just starting to build my skills, when i hadn't aquired a taste for AWD's, with only enough money to get a light blue MX-5 and some suspension upgrades running on stock tires (This actually prooved fun after i gave it a chance)

I remember running races, when in the mild of a corner, my rear would slide out, and this was before i knew what drifting was, so i was always like "TURN!!!?!?!! " and considered myself lucky if i made it.

Eventually i got the Hang of it after watching some drifting videos and setting the car properly, i remember doing like 15 - 20 races with that MX-5 before i finally upgraded the tires and try other tech's besides drifting

Thats probably my favorite GT moment, learning drifting on the fly without knowing what it was, then using it like mad once i learned its abilities

Edit* After reading my own post, i miss the old days

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I never felt poor in GT4, i just bought a used Evo I and i was pretty much set winning what i could and upgrading accordingly

But GT3 is when i felt "poor", just starting to build my skills, when i hadn't aquired a taste for AWD's, with only enough money to get a light blue MX-5 and some suspension upgrades running on stock tires (This actually prooved fun after i gave it a chance)

I remember running races, when in the mild of a corner, my rear would slide out, and this was before i knew what drifting was, so i was always like "TURN!!!?!?!! " and considered myself lucky if i made it.

Eventually i got the Hang of it after watching some drifting videos and setting the car properly, i remember doing like 15 - 20 races with that MX-5 before i finally upgraded the tires and try other tech's besides drifting

Thats probably my favorite GT moment, learning drifting on the fly without knowing what it was, then using it like mad once i learned its abilities

Edit* After reading my own post, i miss the old days

This sounds kinda like my early GT1 days. I had read the Reference Manual which went on and on about friction circles and stuff. Finally I got to the drift chapter...it talked about feint motion and oversteer and whatnot. I paid little attention to what it said till I got behind the wheel of a Viper GTS and one day drifted entirely by accident in that first turn at Grand Valley!

....dammit I'm going off topic. Guess I wasn't exactly poor by then.

 

[stinger061]

I think i consider myself poor all the time now. I very rarely buy any cars, parts etc because i want to make sure i've got the money for the black specials when they appear and at the moment it's going to be a tight squeeze as to whether i can afford them or not. So i basically have no money to spend and am relying on the cars already in my garage plus the prize cars for the events i win. An oil change is about the extent of the mods on 90% of my cars so it keeps things interesting with some tight racing

 

[AlfaAlfa]

I like the simulated ownership aspect of Gran Turismo - a rudimentary modeling of capitalism - which is thankfully much easier to succeed at than real capitalism. Being poor in GT4 is OK but having 85 million credits waiting to be spent on hundreds of as yet untried cars is good too. It would be kind of cool if that 85 million could earn interest for me while I'm busy racing the SL Challenge over and over trying to win a blue 300 SL ...

 

[Steve_O]

i remember comparing the specs in GT3 to get the best car for the money, my first car was the miata (), took me forever to get it "fast", but in GT4 w/ the transfer, i had a 450hp GTR32 before i even went to a track

 

[AOS-]

Is it even possible to spend until you cant buy anything?

I've thought about this for a while.. with 0 cars in your garage( let's supose)
then u kept spending until nothing was purchaseable, even an oil change..

What happens then?

 

[BobK]

Is it even possible to spend until you cant buy anything?

I've thought about this for a while.. with 0 cars in your garage( let's supose)
then u kept spending until nothing was purchaseable, even an oil change..

What happens then?

You can keep buying cars and promptly selling them until you're too low on cash to buy another car.

Then you do some driving missions to raise some cash again. Not a problem. Silly maybe, but it can be done.

 

[RealWeirdo]

i love being poor in the game,i just started with GT 4 and i had a Mazda MX at the start voor 6,000,i raced first all the B licences and sold the car and then i raced the sunday cup.my Mazda is now a kinda pumped up i have now 102 to spend not anymore but i love it.
i'm now riding the a license(i hate a-10 )

 

[BobK]

I think it's sort of funny that if you start a new game of GT4 and gold the National A license, you get a car that can win at least two thirds of the Special Conditions races and everything it's eligible for (except the GTWC) in the Beginner's and Professional Hall, plus a few more, all without spending a dime except for tires. And in most cases it's not just 'win', it's more like 'annihilate the competition'. Who needs money?

 

[AE Vector]

Being poor is pretty nice actually. I have only one car, and I am, of course, trying to mod it. Recently, I somehow beat a TVR in the Club SS R5, after I got all flywheel upgrades and a carbon shaft drive. It payed off, so being poor, usually with only one car, isn't actually so bad.

When I'm bored, I go to Arcade Mode, so I can do Time Trials on Nurburgring in a replica car. Technically, one reason I am poor is that I sometimes suck, often at the wrong times, and I sometimes nail it. Like with my recent race against the TVR '91. And it was much faster and rather skilled. No wonder it got onto the Clubman Cup.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I think it's sort of funny that if you start a new game of GT4 and gold the National A license, you get a car that can win at least two thirds of the Special Conditions races and everything it's eligible for (except the GTWC) in the Beginner's and Professional Hall, plus a few more, all without spending a dime except for tires. And in most cases it's not just 'win', it's more like 'annihilate the competition'. Who needs money?

To me there's nothing wrong with winning a car then using it to win other races, but "annihilating the competition" is almost the same thing as cheating! Plus it's boring to win race after race. I'd rather go the money route.

 

[Tulok]

I think, if you have money, you can spice it up a bvbit, though it is fun to start out.

 

[TheMercyful]

I can remember when I started out for the first time in GT4, I didn't transfer the credits from GT3, dispite how much I had wanted to. I think I may have deleted my game file by accident.

I think that the first car that I bought from the used showroom was a WRX or some sort of Subaru or Mitsubishi. I do remember it being a 4WD car though.

I dont know if I still have the car, but now 95% into the game, a hundred and sixty something cars and 8.5 million credits, I couldn't care less.

I'm sure looking forward to finally getting that black F1 car though!

 

[BLITZ_69]

Yeah, now I'm at the beginning, AGAIN!!!! 🤬

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I got a hellish scare earlier. I've got a Gameshark which I use for zipping files. Well, I zipped GT4 so I could start over, but I screwed up in a race and decided to switch back. Well, I highlighted both the zipped save and the new one, and selected "zip/unzip save/file" just like every other time. It started unzipping and asked "file already exists. Overwrite?" so I say yes, AND IT FROZE. So I reset, looked, no zip file, just the one unzipped. "Oh, HELL NO!" Then I fire up GT4 and my 00 KAMaro (there's a reason I call it that) is sitting there staring at me.

I'm going to start over. Again. And zip the new file first next time.
-Kyle A. Mallender

 

[BLITZ_69]

I got a hellish scare earlier. I've got a Gameshark which I use for zipping files. Well, I zipped GT4 so I could start over, but I screwed up in a race and decided to switch back. Well, I highlighted both the zipped save and the new one, and selected "zip/unzip save/file" just like every other time. It started unzipping and asked "file already exists. Overwrite?" so I say yes, AND IT FROZE. So I reset, looked, no zip file, just the one unzipped. "Oh, HELL NO!" Then I fire up GT4 and my 00 KAMaro (there's a reason I call it that) is sitting there staring at me.

I'm going to start over. Again. And zip the new file first next time.
-Kyle A. Mallender

 

[AE Vector]

I got a hellish scare earlier. I've got a Gameshark which I use for zipping files. Well, I zipped GT4 so I could start over, but I screwed up in a race and decided to switch back. Well, I highlighted both the zipped save and the new one, and selected "zip/unzip save/file" just like every other time. It started unzipping and asked "file already exists. Overwrite?" so I say yes, AND IT FROZE. So I reset, looked, no zip file, just the one unzipped. "Oh, HELL NO!" Then I fire up GT4 and my 00 KAMaro (there's a reason I call it that) is sitting there staring at me.

I'm going to start over. Again. And zip the new file first next time.
-Kyle A. Mallender

Dang, that must suck. Just like all those times I got rammed by a BMW. Wait, I beat that one. Never mind..

Recently, I got 2 cars. I bronzed the A license, as I somehow ALWAAYS do, and expected crap. Well, I got a concept car, the Sunfire. And I had recently bought a '79 Civic.

I'm not as poor as I think at least.

 

[PARAGON GT]

I just restarted a game because I was feeling unchallanged and burned out. I only had 1 serise (Formuls GT World) and 3/4 of the driving missions to complete. I had over 8 million credits available, over 44 pages of cars (Most of which I had never even driven) and I think it said it was around 93% complete in the game. I had started this game with the license transfer and 100,000 credits. My first car was a new Nissan Skyline V-spec Nur.

Most of the time I was just going out to buy a car, race it a couple times and leave it in my garage to collect dust. Car collecting became the object in the game, not racing anymore.

Being rich early on had its advantages, but it also made the game far to easy in the beginning.

So I copied the game to another memory card and decided to start with a clean slate and a few rules in place.

1. No license or credit transfer.
2. Only keep cars that will be raced.
3. NO MONEY RUNS!!!

Now if I want to re-run a series to get a car that I know I will keep in a diffrent color, that would be allowed. I just don't want to get into the habit of running a series over and over just to fill up the bank account.

So far things are going pretty well. I started with a '85 Mazda RX-7 GT-Limited (Pure Red) that I bought from my previous game. (I was going to buy the one available on day 1 but I didn't like the color.) And the game seems more challanging.

So starting out with less is definately more.

 

[KAMKA-Z]

I'm still pretty new to GT4. I've finished off the beginner races and have been exploring around. I did the British Lightweight Cup in the Ginetta, What a blast. I like these slower well matched events because I'm still learning tracks that weren't in GT3. I've purposely kept the car mildly tuned so that I'm winning by driving well. It plays hell with the win ratio but I don't mind doing a well matched race several times and finally winning by driving smoothly. I'm currently doing the Spitfire Cup and reverted the car back to stock to make the races closer.

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I'm still pretty new to GT4. I've finished off the beginner races and have been exploring around. I did the British Lightweight Cup in the Ginetta, What a blast. I like these slower well matched events because I'm still learning tracks that weren't in GT3. I've purposely kept the car mildly tuned so that I'm winning by driving well. It plays hell with the win ratio but I don't mind doing a well matched race several times and finally winning by driving smoothly. I'm currently doing the Spitfire Cup and reverted the car back to stock to make the races closer.

That British Lightweight Cup is some fun races! Pretty devilish if you keep the power low...which is easy to do.

 

[Mykolas]

I totally agree, the beginning is fun. But it gets dry fast, since you don't have to pay for damage done to the car, which means no matter what, you're moving forward. There needs to be setbacks.

To me there's nothing wrong with winning a car then using it to win other races, but "annihilating the competition" is almost the same thing as cheating! Plus it's boring to win race after race. I'd rather go the money route.

Exactly, you want a good reason to spend money, and a good reason to be poor. Which is also why races need very narrow restrictions. (ie 450-550hp, a certain power:weight ratio) It shouldn't be an effort on the players part to make the competition challenging. That should come naturally after spending every dollar you have.

the way i make money is the deutsche tourenwagen meisterschaft, ~800,000 Cr. in 12 minutes ..

 

[Parnelli Bone]

I totally agree, the beginning is fun. But it gets dry fast, since you don't have to pay for damage done to the car, which means no matter what, you're moving forward. There needs to be setbacks.



Exactly, you want a good reason to spend money, and a good reason to be poor. Which is also why races need very narrow restrictions. (ie 450-550hp, a certain power:weight ratio) It shouldn't be an effort on the players part to make the competition challenging. That should come naturally after spending every dollar you have.

the way i make money is the deutsche tourenwagen meisterschaft, ~800,000 Cr. in 12 minutes ..

Well, that's true also. There should be a horsepower limit in more races for us vets. One thing they did right in GT4 is they only allow certain tires, which I like. You can no longer use racing tires in a race that calls for sports, for instance. And all races (even 2-lap sprints) have tire wear 👍 which makes every lap a bit different from the last.

....unfortunately we have to make the competition challenging. AT least I do.

 

[Picc84]

I honestly don't really remember being poor in GT4, I did the 100k transfer, but in GT3 and GT2 I can honestly say I enjoyed going from car to car comparing specs to see which car would give me the most bang for the buck, so I can see what you mean about having to pick and choose parts and cars wisely.

Makes me wanna start my game over and not do the money transfer or the get rich quick schemes.

Just did this.... I love this too, but I even like it more when you get to save up race by race to get that new car. and once you get it its just so diffrent and more fun. it makes you so much more happy. haha