The biking thread

I thought I was going to miss out on my after work ride tonight, looking after the youngest while the missus was out with our eldest.

I was really anxious to get out as tonight the weather was perfect. No wind for the first time in about 2 weeks, still warm at around 27C with light cloud cover.
Anyway the missus got home with about an hour of daylight left, quickly helped her with a couple of things and said I'm off for a quick ride.

Rode my usual small after work ride which is 16km and pretty flat.
Decided I won't bother with any segments on Strava nor bother to check my speed as I went along. Upon finishing I checked the stats for these results.

Time 00:36:12
Max Speed 35.3km/h
Avg Speed 26.3km/h

Sure it's not super impressive but considering 1 month ago after only 10km averaging 20km/h I would be puffing like a 100 year old steam train I'm pretty happy with myself.

I plan on doing my 35km ride on Saturday and if I feel good after it I may have a crack at 50km on Sunday which happens to be the distance to my work. I'm keen on riding to work but I don't think I'm quite ready yet.

Cheers Shaun.
 
Greycap - quality bike love photo, you even got the valves/rims/tyres lined up perfectly :D:tup:
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For once I put in proper effort and it certainly paid off!

The entire bike is slowly becoming an example of what happens when one doesn't quite have the money for the properly specced bike and builds an entry level version to match - and to exceed. At this point mine still represents the lowly Comp "trim level" (they go from base through Comp, Elite and Expert to Pro) but sports, for example, better brakes and tyres than the Pro off the showroom floor. By the time I upgrade the drivetrain (3x9 Alivio to 2x9 XT) and the fork (Recon Silver to Reba) it'll be more than a match for an unmodified Pro while probably still costing less.
 
So with spring soon coming I'm looking to get back into cycling, but as I currently have a mountain bike and I want to primarily ride on roads I need something new.

Does anyone know of a decent website I can look through? There's a shop near me but they only stock real high end stuff, upwards of £1000, and then there's halfords which are selling this at £350

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A good choice?
 
Pagey279
So with spring soon coming I'm looking to get back into cycling, but as I currently have a mountain bike and I want to primarily ride on roads I need something new.

Does anyone know of a decent website I can look through? There's a shop near me but they only stock real high end stuff, upwards of £1000, and then there's halfords which are selling this at £350

Yes to road cycling, no to halfords. The horror stories from them ... :scared:

eBay is an option, though look on Evans Cycles, and Chain Reaction Cycles, those are the popular ones. What's your budget limit?

Forgot silly website name, Shem got the real ome
 
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Ooo some good bikes on those websites, thanks.

And my budget is pretty limited, £500 at most really. But it looks like I can get some decent bikes for that, so all is good.

Edit: But after an extensive look I'm struggling to find one in my size.
 
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Pagey, nice to see another road rider here instead of playing in the mud. :sly:

Do you specifically have to have a brand new bike?
As Emptyone mentioned have a look at ebay, you may just luck out if you're prepared to wait. Happened to me and picked up mine for well under half price on a bike that had traveled only 100km.

Also check out all the Local Bike Shops close enough to you. Look for last years model instead of having the very latest. There's often no or little difference between them. Shem can attest to this.

Went for my 35km ride this morning, as Starva crashed on me I can't be certain on the stats, but going by the bike computer it looks like I averaged 27.3kmh.
Pretty happy with that really as the first 6km was into a god awful head wind with a slight incline. Also a few km's were stop and start in trafic and what not.
I can feel my core fitness rising and have trained myself to ignore the pain in my legs when it comes.

One thing I'm going to do though is put my second bottle cage back on and have a bottle of frozen water also. It was 32c when I headed out today and by around the 20km mark my water was pretty much undrinkable due to the temperature of it. Last ten odd km's I was pretty much just swishing it in my mouth and spitting it out.

Question for the roadies.
How often do you guys service your bike?
Mines up to around 700km now. There's no creaks or odd noises and I oil the chain weekly, it's never ridden in the rain either. Well I think it's only rained once here in the last Month.

Cheers Shaun.
 
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Thanks for that MD. 👍
Like you I plan on a yearly service at my LBS and all the rest in between by myself.

Cheers Shaun.
 
I think it might get expensive for me. Very hilly area, dusty roads in summer, wet roads in winter, and I weigh over 200lbs... my poor little chain links!
 
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For once I put in proper effort and it certainly paid off!

The entire bike is slowly becoming an example of what happens when one doesn't quite have the money for the properly specced bike and builds an entry level version to match - and to exceed. At this point mine still represents the lowly Comp "trim level" (they go from base through Comp, Elite and Expert to Pro) but sports, for example, better brakes and tyres than the Pro off the showroom floor. By the time I upgrade the drivetrain (3x9 Alivio to 2x9 XT) and the fork (Recon Silver to Reba) it'll be more than a match for an unmodified Pro while probably still costing less.

It's a very nice bike now. Tyres and drive train bits wear out and need replacing fairly regularly so it's no big deal buying a bike with lower range stuff there and there are very few bikes with my preferred brakes and contact points so it starts to make sense to buy a lower spec bike with a decent frame (or frame only) and build it up how you want. Frame, wheels and forks are the most important (and expensive) bits, everything else is much of a muchness really and down to personal choice.

Ooo some good bikes on those websites, thanks.

And my budget is pretty limited, £500 at most really. But it looks like I can get some decent bikes for that, so all is good.

Edit: But after an extensive look I'm struggling to find one in my size.

This is good value and they have a store in Southampton which might not be too far from you

http://www.decathlon.co.uk/triban-5-road-bike-id_8167039.html

Pagey, nice to see another road rider here instead of playing in the mud. :sly:

Oi! ;)

One thing I'm going to do though is put my second bottle cage back on and have a bottle of frozen water also. It was 32c when I headed out today and by around the 20km mark my water was pretty much undrinkable due to the temperature of it. Last ten odd km's I was pretty much just swishing it in my mouth and spitting it out.

Camelbak Big Chill Bottle 👍 http://shop.camelbak.com/podium-big-chill-25-oz/d/50084_c_2020_cl_2073

I will only use Camelbak bottle as I like the squeezy bottle and valve and I've got the Big Chill one which at the moment stops the drink getting too cold :ouch:

Question for the roadies.
How often do you guys service your bike?
Mines up to around 700km now. There's no creaks or odd noises and I oil the chain weekly, it's never ridden in the rain either. Well I think it's only rained once here in the last Month.

Cheers Shaun.

The links MD posted are excellent but to add to them it is very important to keep check of chain and cog wear as once the chain is worn it very quickly wears the cogs resulting in an expensive trip to the shops. Invest in a chain wear checker and replace the chain at 0.75%, you should then get much more life from the cassette and chain rings.


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I needed new tyres so thought I'd have a try at going tubeless....

1 x On One Smorgasbord 2.25 trail extreme
1 x On One Chunky Monkey 2.4 trail extreme
1 x roll of Gorilla tape
1 x Superstars tubeless valves
1 x Stans sealant
1 x Tesco Value lemo bottle to make ghetto inflater

Only getting covered in latex **** and swearing a little bit...priceless. :D

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Took a bit of working out to get the first tyre done but second one was a piece of piss, quite chuffed with myself getting both done on my first tubeless attempt. The clearance on the fork bridge with the 2.4 is a bit tight though...as in the bender Fender is going to need a bit of modding or I'll be going very slow and you'll hear me coming with the tyre rubbing on it.

I’ve wanted to tubeless for a while even though I don’t seem to get too many punctures but I wanted to be able to run lower pressures without worrying about pinch flatting plus they’re meant to roll better and be grippier and I like the idea of hearing the hiss of a puncture fix itself as you ride along…win win.

Reading up on going tubeless it seems the best way is to use proper tubeless UST rims with proper tubeless UST tyres then next best is tubeless ready rims (e.g Stans) with tubeless ready tyres but both of these options cost a lot or quite a bit of cash so I opted for the pikey ghetto method using my existing Superstar AM-490 rims (which really aren’t tubeless ready, friendly or even acquainted) and a new set of On One Smorgasbord and Chunky Monkey tyres. I’ve heard good things about using a 20” BMX Schwalbe inner tube stretched over the rim and cut down the middle to provide the seal between the tyre and the rim but I don’t like the idea of having to remove the BMX tube if/when you get a big hole in the tyre and need to stick an inner tube in it to continue the ride so I thought I’d first try to do it just using tape on the rim to seal the spoke holes with Superstar tubeless valves. To make sure it was as pikey as possible rather than use Stans or Superstar rim tape I bought a roll of Gorilla Tape from Amazon for £3 and followed these instructions to apply it to the rim although I went round the rim twice to build up the rim bed and you don’t need to cut it with a Stanley knife as once it’s got a cut started it tears very easily and neatly. With the rim strip done and tubeless valves in I tried to seat the tyres just using a track pump but there was zero chance this was going to work, even after leaving a tube in it over night at 60psi to try and get the tyre bead shaped to the rim and then taking the core out of the tubeless valves, so I made a pikey ghetto tubeless inflator using a cheap lemonade bottle as described here. I was using this as a rough guide for seating the tyres, which recommends running some Stans sealant around the rim bead to get it to seat and stick better, and trying the soapy bubbles trick around the tyre plus removing the valve cores and although I was getting the tyre to seat on the rim bead and putting a bit of pressure in it as soon I disconnected the lemo bottle inflator from the valve the tyre deflated (as the core had been removed) and the tyre bead popped off the rim putting me back at square one and it wouldn’t seat with the valve core in as it stops the air filling the tyre fast enough. The solution, which is probably well known, was to pour a cup of Stans sealant in the tyre first then get it seated and inflated with the valve core out using the lemo bottle inflator then as quickly as possible remove the tube from the valve, stick my finger over the valve then screw the valve core back in before too much air escaped from the tyre. Result! I got the second tyre to seat straight away on the first attempt just using sealant on the tyre bead and no soapy bubbles so this will be the way I do it in future. Both tyres have been inflated to 40psi (max recommend with tubeless) and given a good shake to ensure the sealant in spread all over the inside of the tyre to seal any small holes and so far they’ve stayed up and not lost any pressure although I’m yet to go for a ride with them.

I’m quite cuffed I managed to get them sorted as I was ready to sack it off and stick inner tubes back in when I was struggling but once you’ve cracked it it’s quite easy, I imagine with a proper compressor it would be easier again. Also because I’m sad I weighed everything and if you’re using the same tyres then by this method you should save approx 120g per wheel although my new tyres are heavier which has almost completely offset the weight loss.
 
Cheers Neal 👍

So I have found a bike, but the only frame they have is 6cm too small for me. Will 6cm make a big difference? I will really struggle to find a bike of this spec for such a low price again.
 
Will 6cm make a big difference?
Think of it this way: which is better, having the bar in your hands (when you're in a good riding position) or 6 cm behind them?

It's a huge difference. I can only speak about MTB sizes but both my own bikes are roughly 17,5" frames, I can ride 17" and 18" but that's where it practically ends. 16" would be like riding a children's bike and 19" would be far too long and high, and both of them are only around 4 cm off from my preferred size. Of course you can get a longer stem to compensate but the frame will also be lower which means having to raise the seat quite a lot more than what might be sensible and that would again mean having the bar very low compared to the seat. Personally I would strongly advice against it but let's see what the others say.
 
Just bought a Trek 2.1 from 2011. It's got 105 components, a triple crankset (Which I prefer), and I picked it up for under $900 on a closeout sale. Bargain of the century.

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I think my bike has at least 5,000-6,000 kilometres on it and the only parts I've changed on it are the new brakes and tyres. I only wash it when it gets unacceptably dirty, but otherwise I don't really bother.
 

Thanks for that mate. Looks like it will fit the bill perfectly. 👍
Now to just find one locally at a decent price. Can find them on the webz for around $13-$16 but they are mostly in the UK. I would prefer not to wait that long. Surely some local shops sell them here where I can just walk in and get one at a reasonable price.


Bike looks nice Sam. 👍

Cheers Shaun.
 
I only wash it when it gets unacceptably dirty, but otherwise I don't really bother.

I was mine once the dirt is visible, by which I mean, it's clumped onto the frame and parts, which is usually after a wet ride because the streets here are filthy. I suppose I've given the bike around 6 washes in 3,500km in the last year, but oil and grease much more often.

Nice bike, Sam. Certainly a bargain at that price! 👍
 
Went out and bought a bike today, it's only the base model Trek for £550, but it should do the job:
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A life time warranty on the frame, 5 year warranty on the components. And also I get free servicing from the shop I bought it at for 18 months. Should be coming in a couple of days :D
 
16 speed? Good choice.

I got a feeling your white grip tape might be getting dirty pretty quickly. ;)

If you're going to be using it a lot I'd recommend getting some clip-less pedals, they make a world of difference!
 
Is 25mph a reasonable top speed for a mountain/hybrid bike? I'm wondering if the speed on my strava app is just due to GPS lag.
 
No hills here. I was moving at a pretty good clip. I'll probably say I was approaching 20mph for good measure. Strava showed 25mph, but it was a spike when I'm pretty sure I sustained the speed.
 
Just got a quick question about my forks, i currently have Rock Shox Recon silver TK 2011 forks with 100mm travel, and was wondering if light jumping, say around 1metre drop will make my forks bottom out or cause damage?
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Okay, I'm stumped, and need an expert's opinion on this one.

I just bought a Trek 2.1 road bike. On my first ride, I shifted into the highest gear combo and noticed that the chain was rubbing on the inside of the front derailleur, something the shop should have checked before selling it to me. So I figured I'd just move it in a bit and eliminate the rubbing.

I then detach the front derailleur cable and move the derailleur to the lowest front cog. I adjust the limit, and reattach the cable. I make sure it's tight. I then pull the shifter up front and discover slack in the shifter and the derailleur won't move! How in the world can that happen when the cable is so tight?

In other words then, I have a shifter that has slack and won't engage, a derailleur that's staying put, and the cable that links the two which is at the perfect tightness.
 
Have you checked the hand shifter connection where the cable enters the mech on the bars? The should be a small screw type thing on the end cable housing that can sometimes effect the shifting tension if not adjusted right.

Other than that I would suggest taking it to your local shop, if you have a decent bike mechanic and not just an 'assembler'. With a good mechanic he shouldn't charge you for having a 2 minute look if you don't mind buying something small so he still earns a penny (lights or a chain stay protector) and if you build a good relationship he may not even charge you for labour in future, just the price of the parts (providing it's a 5 minute job).

Also, cables will stretch on a new bike so adjusting it is the right thing to do, but make the adjustments on the derailleur tiny and go for a little ride to check it out after each adjustment.

To my mind, shifting over the derailleur a fraction to stop rubbing should require the cable off, but it shouldn't be causing you grief to get back taught.

EDIT: I'm not an expert, just an enthusiast.
 
Okay, I'm stumped, and need an expert's opinion on this one.

I just bought a Trek 2.1 road bike. On my first ride, I shifted into the highest gear combo and noticed that the chain was rubbing on the inside of the front derailleur, something the shop should have checked before selling it to me. So I figured I'd just move it in a bit and eliminate the rubbing.

I then detach the front derailleur cable and move the derailleur to the lowest front cog. I adjust the limit, and reattach the cable. I make sure it's tight. I then pull the shifter up front and discover slack in the shifter and the derailleur won't move! How in the world can that happen when the cable is so tight?

In other words then, I have a shifter that has slack and won't engage, a derailleur that's staying put, and the cable that links the two which is at the perfect tightness.

Setting up a derailleur is the hardest thing you could ever fix on a bike. Trust me, I've literally spent days in the summer trying to find the perfect position. Want a tip? Bring it to the shop and let them do it. If you have no experience with bikes or bike parts, the derailleur is by far the most difficult thing you can work on. Trust me, I found out the hard way :grumpy:
 
Setting up a derailleur is the hardest thing you could ever fix on a bike. Trust me, I've literally spent days in the summer trying to find the perfect position. Want a tip? Bring it to the shop and let them do it. If you have no experience with bikes or bike parts, the derailleur is by far the most difficult thing you can work on. Trust me, I found out the hard way :grumpy:

I'll second this. I've never got one perfect and had also spent several days going to and from instructions and friends advice to get the bloody thing tuned. I can make do with a close to perfect front now but can never get it like new.
 

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