The Crew Motorfest - General Discussion

[breeminator]

nothing there im not doing its settings related, I still love the game just summit doesn't have any draw in itself. Cuts, resets and settings differences kill actual competition, its fundemantal to be an even playing field to be compelling to me.

As you mentioned Forza earlier - for what it's worth, speaking as someone who has played a LOT of FM7, FM23, FH4, FH5 (and some of FH1-3 FM5/6), Forza is one of the worst driving games in existence if looking for a level playing field. There are so many build/tune options and they have such a massive impact on how fast you are. A huge reason why I'm playing Crew rather than Forza is the fact you can just take any car in the Crew games and make it pretty good with the same changes. The only really big annoyance is that leaderboards have performances done with slipstream and IMO those should have a flag so we can see they used slipstream. I think the nerf to manual with clutch might have been pretty effective as I've done a few grand races and some people who used to be crazy good seemed to now be merely very good.

 

[evldave333]

As you mentioned Forza earlier - for what it's worth, speaking as someone who has played a LOT of FM7, FM23, FH4, FH5 (and some of FH1-3 FM5/6), Forza is one of the worst driving games in existence if looking for a level playing field. There are so many build/tune options and they have such a massive impact on how fast you are. A huge reason why I'm playing Crew rather than Forza is the fact you can just take any car in the Crew games and make it pretty good with the same changes. The only really big annoyance is that leaderboards have performances done with slipstream and IMO those should have a flag so we can see they used slipstream. I think the nerf to manual with clutch might have been pretty effective as I've done a few grand races and some people who used to be crazy good seemed to now be merely very good.

Thanks for the advice I normally wouldn't play any online at all (never had online subscription) motorfest with its leaderboard is only place I dip a toe in. Ive not even looked at the summit this week that's probably going stay that way too, it was just the only fruit left on the tree. I even got familiar with the so called random route generator in the races after a bit lol.

Just a curiosity do use the pro settings? I guess if you're running four accounts you might have an exceptional muscle memory for the game that few can match!

I'm hesitant on Forza just in terms of how it drives I would like a demo before I bite, not touched the franchise since I had a 360. Back in the 360 era Forza was very low down the driving game pecking order for me. Im ready for something fresh not sure where to get my driving fix now. Wreckfest 2 looks decent, Rennsport is DOA, dont trust the Assetto franchise yet (both games owned and uninstalled!)... might end up starting a fresh motorfest account like yourself! I would have loved a project cars 4...

 

[strela]

I'm hesitant on Forza just in terms of how it drives I would like a demo before I bite, not touched the franchise since I had a 360. Back in the 360 era Forza was very low down the driving game pecking order for me. Im ready for something fresh not sure where to get my driving fix now. Wreckfest 2 looks decent, Rennsport is DOA, dont trust the Assetto franchise yet (both games owned and uninstalled!)... might end up starting a fresh motorfest account like yourself! I would have loved a project cars 4...

The thing with FH5 is that it can be played by a 5y old when all the assists are turn on or be very similar to a sim game when everything is turn off. Personally what I like the most is the ability to build cars for a specific type of racing. I can turn a Honda Prelude into a 4WD rally car or a RWD drift car. That I can create/tailor events to my liking almost without limitation. So many options.
And of course the car list. Even without any DLC is huge. With DLC is just perfect.
In the end it would be a sad world for me without the Crew, NFS and FH. I will always play all 3.
Project Cars 4 would be nice too.

 

[breeminator]

Just a curiosity do use the pro settings? I guess if you're running four accounts you might have an exceptional muscle memory for the game that few can match!

I'm hesitant on Forza just in terms of how it drives I would like a demo before I bite, not touched the franchise since I had a 360. Back in the 360 era Forza was very low down the driving game pecking order for me. Im ready for something fresh not sure where to get my driving fix now. Wreckfest 2 looks decent, Rennsport is DOA, dont trust the Assetto franchise yet (both games owned and uninstalled!)... might end up starting a fresh motorfest account like yourself! I would have loved a project cars 4...

I do pretty basic pro settings adjustment in Motorfest. Normally 40/60 front/rear for AWD vehicles. Brake balance normally 45%. ARBs all the way to the right, cambers all the way to the left. I adjust front or rear aero downwards if a car feels over or under steery, but that's about it. Always fit any wide body parts and meta tyres (roffo red line or golden stripes). In contrast in FH4 I sometimes spent DAYS working on a build/tune for one car.

Don't get me wrong, FM23 and FH5 are both decent games and the cars drive fine with a controller. I just find FH5 all a bit same-ish week after week, and the map IMO is nowhere near the standard of FH4's map. FM23 is just chore-tastic to unlock the FOMO cars, but could be good if they hadn't designed it from the ground up to completely revolve around dull chores. The graphics and physics are good but the gameplay is just so bad. AC EVO is like driving on ice when played with a controller, cars feel to have ridiculously little grip compared to real life.

 

[evldave333]

I do pretty basic pro settings adjustment in Motorfest. Normally 40/60 front/rear for AWD vehicles. Brake balance normally 45%. ARBs all the way to the right, cambers all the way to the left. I adjust front or rear aero downwards if a car feels over or under steery, but that's about it. Always fit any wide body parts and meta tyres (roffo red line or golden stripes). In contrast in FH4 I sometimes spent DAYS working on a build/tune for one car.

You deserve to be top of the leaderboard with that level of detail... impressive! Im not a fan of menu's, I hope FH5 has a few vehicles that are good from the get go, otherwise it will be abandoned pretty quickly! I like liveries and doing the body kits, but tuning is not for me. I bet I can find a couple of fun cars in each class, and playing solo won't need to tune them too much. Thanks for the insights.

 

[strela]

I bet I can find a couple of fun cars in each class, and playing solo won't need to tune them too much.

You can rest assured there's a car for anyone. Even for maniacs that wants to complete every event in a Reliant Robin or a Peel 50. You can use anything for everything. You can finish the game using only the Unimog if you so desire. And when I said building I didn't mean tuning. I meant putting different components like tires, suspension, gears, drive-train, engines, body kits, etc. Tuning is for leaderboards, PvP and Rivals.

 

[sirjim73]

You deserve to be top of the leaderboard with that level of detail... impressive! Im not a fan of menu's, I hope FH5 has a few vehicles that are good from the get go, otherwise it will be abandoned pretty quickly! I like liveries and doing the body kits, but tuning is not for me. I bet I can find a couple of fun cars in each class, and playing solo won't need to tune them too much. Thanks for the insights.

Tunes can be shared in FH5, so I find I just look for the best general tuners and steal theirs

Did MIJ2 playlist (my 4th) to unlock the Rivals for Main Stage. Now at Legend level for all 3 types. Didn't realise it didnt reset weekly like Summits

 

[evldave333]

Well not gonna lie... was back on the summit this morning (just one shot of each got to about 2800th), so much for a break eh! Over last couple of days I dipped back into GT7, F124, PC3 (much nicer on the pro), NFS, WRC even booted up Grid eww... just didn't hit the spot with those. I think I was missing the nitro boost the most it's a great gameplay mechanic.

My name is David im an addict, I just cant stop hitting the nitrous... in motorfest!

Appreciate the Forza advice will probably pre-order it as a treat might even get the bundle with all the DLC, bound to get 100's of hours out of it tootling about in a turbo Reliant Robin lol

 

[FOG-Smokebeer]

Well not gonna lie... was back on the summit this morning (just one shot of each got to about 2800th), so much for a break eh! Over last couple of days I dipped back into GT7, F124, PC3 (much nicer on the pro), NFS, WRC even booted up Grid eww... just didn't hit the spot with those. I think I was missing the nitro boost the most it's a great gameplay mechanic.

My name is David im an addict, I just cant stop hitting the nitrous... in motorfest!

Appreciate the Forza advice will probably pre-order it as a treat might even get the bundle with all the DLC, bound to get 100's of hours out of it tootling about in a turbo Reliant Robin lol

I must admit i had to remap other driving games so that pressing nitro did nothing to harmful in them 😶‍🌫️

 

[breeminator]

Well not gonna lie... was back on the summit this morning (just one shot of each got to about 2800th), so much for a break eh! Over last couple of days I dipped back into GT7, F124, PC3 (much nicer on the pro), NFS, WRC even booted up Grid eww... just didn't hit the spot with those. I think I was missing the nitro boost the most it's a great gameplay mechanic.

My name is David im an addict, I just cant stop hitting the nitrous... in motorfest!

If you're so keen on nitrous, you could give Rocket League a try. I feel it's a game that everyone should at least try, as you don't really get a feel for what it's like to play by watching other people play it. It is multiplayer-focused, but there's so many players that you get games where everyone is closely matched in MMR, and IMO the game can be enjoyed at any skill level. It's coming up to 10 years old this year and still has about as many peak concurrent players each day as the entire number of people who have done the Maui playlist in Motorfest.

 

[strela]

I must admit i had to remap other driving games so that pressing nitro did nothing to harmful in them 😶‍🌫️

When you want to pass that last car for the win and you suddenly pull your handbrake. 😂

This week summit is kind of annoying for me. Now I love when I'm forced to drive clean. But the penalty is just too harsh. I'm loosing 5k just to pass the AI at the start. At least next week is all about bikes and I love them so much.

 

[evldave333]

When you want to pass that last car for the win and you suddenly pull your handbrake. 😂

This week summit is kind of annoying for me. Now I love when I'm forced to drive clean. But the penalty is just too harsh. I'm loosing 5k just to pass the AI at the start. At least next week is all about bikes and I love them so much.

Nice livery. I've noticed that when doing the Red Bull playlist, there is more nuance to the turn-in on the bikes, a definite improvement.

 

[breeminator]

This week summit is kind of annoying for me. Now I love when I'm forced to drive clean. But the penalty is just too harsh. I'm loosing 5k just to pass the AI at the start.

Definitely not the best summit ever. I was mostly able to find ways to get past the AI cleanly, but often had to go slower at first to pass them in a better place, so you're losing time going slower then having to waste nitrous to make the pass. The speed trap where you have to use a ramp to jump and air nitrous is also pretty annoying. You can use the same technique as FH of hitting destructibles then rewinding to get a clean run through the approach as they don't re-spawn.

 

[strela]

Definitely not the best summit ever. I was mostly able to find ways to get past the AI cleanly, but often had to go slower at first to pass them in a better place, so you're losing time going slower then having to waste nitrous to make the pass. The speed trap where you have to use a ramp to jump and air nitrous is also pretty annoying. You can use the same technique as FH of hitting destructibles then rewinding to get a clean run through the approach as they don't re-spawn.

They sure choose some of the worst races for clean bonus.
As for the jump speed trap. How on earth someone finds those ways... It's crazy. I always thought jumps make you slower. Until you lower the down force and turn into a missile. 🤣

 

[breeminator]

As for the jump speed trap. How on earth someone finds those ways... It's crazy. I always thought jumps make you slower. Until you lower the down force and turn into a missile. 🤣

There were some very high speeds on the leaderboard quite soon after the summit went live, so I can only think there has been something similar before, or people knew which trap was coming up, and they had prepared a special parts set. Maybe Pure and Frenetic or Pure and Rocket? I might have a spare NC set on my main account that I can re-calibrate.

 

[strela]

There were some very high speeds on the leaderboard quite soon after the summit went live, so I can only think there has been something similar before, or people knew which trap was coming up, and they had prepared a special parts set. Maybe Pure and Frenetic or Pure and Rocket? I might have a spare NC set on my main account that I can re-calibrate.

They did use that speed trap in the past but wasn't restricted to a particular vehicle so I didn't use the ramp. Now I'm at 136k (456km/h) with Frenetic/Pure.

 

[breeminator]

They did used that speed trap in the past but wasn't restricted to a particular vehicle so I didn't use the ramp. Now I'm at 136k (456km/h) with Frenetic/Pure.

I had a spare NC set, so made a pure+frenetic set and did manage to beat your speed. It took quite a bit of effort. You can approach via a road loop that looks on the map like it takes you out of the area, but it doesn't trigger it, so you can more easily approach at high speed by doing that. I took out all the destructables with rewinds then went for it, but I think there's luck as well in how you hit the ramp and come off it.

The pure+frenetic set will also be good for events without nitro refill - the ones where you get a fixed number at the start, and the ones with the lanes on the road, so a lot of hardcore players probably already had that set.

 

[evldave333]

 

[PirovacBoy]

It baffles me that no one is talking about the completely Handling/ Physics/ Tire Model rehaul.
I don't know if anyone here plays the game for the sake of enjoyment and an authentic ride, but to me driving with a Fanatec DD + the update is huge.
Like the difference in driving dynamics as well as the feel in the Wheel are actually so severe that let alone this aspect should be highlighted way more.

 

[breeminator]

It baffles me that no one is talking about the completely Handling/ Physics/ Tire Model rehaul.
I don't know if anyone here plays the game for the sake of enjoyment and an authentic ride, but to me driving with a Fanatec DD + the update is huge.
Like the difference in driving dynamics as well as the feel in the Wheel are actually so severe that let alone this aspect should be highlighted way more.

I suspect most people play with a controller. I think Akor used a wheel for TC2 but uses a controller for TCM, and I've had the impression that many people who have a wheel choose to use a controller for TCM. Are you saying the update has made the game much better with a wheel? If so, it might take a bit of time for controller users who own a wheel to give their wheel another try with the game.

 

[FOG-Smokebeer]

I suspect most people play with a controller. I think Akor used a wheel for TC2 but uses a controller for TCM, and I've had the impression that many people who have a wheel choose to use a controller for TCM. Are you saying the update has made the game much better with a wheel? If so, it might take a bit of time for controller users who own a wheel to give their wheel another try with the game.

I've only ever used a wheel even with the bikes "sometimes" and i don't think it's changed that much maybe it's the driving aids making the difference he did say "authentic ride"

 

[PirovacBoy]

I suspect most people play with a controller. I think Akor used a wheel for TC2 but uses a controller for TCM, and I've had the impression that many people who have a wheel choose to use a controller for TCM. Are you saying the update has made the game much better with a wheel? If so, it might take a bit of time for controller users who own a wheel to give their wheel another try with the game.

Yep from the looks of it it definitely must be like that.
I play it since release and besides one single try with Pad, I only play it with my Fanatec / PlaySeat Trophy Setup.
And since Day1 I fell in love with the game.
Especially the driving aspect / Wheel Feel behavior immediately got me hooked.
So after a few days of tweaking and testing, refining and finally having found my most to the real thing Wheel feel, I drove countless hours across Maui Hawaii every single day.
Never did a single summit nor do or did I care about rankings.
It's the driving itself.
Only that.
And it's perfect.
My Son did the grinding races for me every day an hour so I currently have around 75 ish cars to pick.
Not a single car has been tuned the slightest with any sorts of parts.
I just tweak the Suspension as well as tire and Aerodynamics and the brakes and simply enjoy every cars authenticity in terms of driving experience and of course each cars absolutely spot on captured sounds.

This is something truly special.
Motorfest has in my opinion the best sounding Cars I ever came across since I started playing Racing games.
Every absolutely every car I have so far drives and feels but as well sounds absolutely unique.
I can immediately hear if it's an 4 6 8 10 or 12 cylinder.
Natural aspirated or Turbo... And don't get me started on the big brute compressors.
Love it I love this game I love to drive cars.
No HUD at all, ALWAYS and ONLY Cockpit View and... Well what else absolutely no single driving aid at all.
I set my cars to match it's real world factory braking/stopping performance as well I balance the tire/suspension and the aerodynamic FFB until it all blends together in a perfectly refined symbiosis... 😅🫣

What Ivory Tower has produced here is beyond a simple and chaotic arcade grind racer... It's the most enjoyable open world driving simulation and it's absolutely astonishing that nowhere... U hear me right, nowhere do I read or find similar minded driving enthusiasts sharing and appreciating the game for what it actually is or let me put it this way, can be.
With the right settings and the mindset to treat it as the real thing...

 

[PirovacBoy]

I suspect most people play with a controller. I think Akor used a wheel for TC2 but uses a controller for TCM, and I've had the impression that many people who have a wheel choose to use a controller for TCM. Are you saying the update has made the game much better with a wheel? If so, it might take a bit of time for controller users who own a wheel to give their wheel another try with the game.

Double post please delete

 

[sirjim73]

Yep from the looks of it it definitely must be like that.
I play it since release and besides one single try with Pad, I only play it with my Fanatec / PlaySeat Trophy Setup.
And since Day1 I fell in love with the game.
Especially the driving aspect / Wheel Feel behavior immediately got me hooked.
So after a few days of tweaking and testing, refining and finally having found my most to the real thing Wheel feel, I drove countless hours across Maui Hawaii every single day.
Never did a single summit nor do or did I care about rankings.
It's the driving itself.
Only that.
And it's perfect.
My Son did the grinding races for me every day an hour so I currently have around 75 ish cars to pick.
Not a single car has been tuned the slightest with any sorts of parts.
I just tweak the Suspension as well as tire and Aerodynamics and the brakes and simply enjoy every cars authenticity in terms of driving experience and of course each cars absolutely spot on captured sounds.

This is something truly special.
Motorfest has in my opinion the best sounding Cars I ever came across since I started playing Racing games.
Every absolutely every car I have so far drives and feels but as well sounds absolutely unique.
I can immediately hear if it's an 4 6 8 10 or 12 cylinder.
Natural aspirated or Turbo... And don't get me started on the big brute compressors.
Love it I love this game I love to drive cars.
No HUD at all, ALWAYS and ONLY Cockpit View and... Well what else absolutely no single driving aid at all.
I set my cars to match it's real world factory braking/stopping performance as well I balance the tire/suspension and the aerodynamic FFB until it all blends together in a perfectly refined symbiosis... 😅🫣

What Ivory Tower has produced here is beyond a simple and chaotic arcade grind racer... It's the most enjoyable open world driving simulation and it's absolutely astonishing that nowhere... U hear me right, nowhere do I read or find similar minded driving enthusiasts sharing and appreciating the game for what it actually is or let me put it this way, can be.
With the right settings and the mindset to treat it as the real thing...

You have your son well trained
I've only just started with the game but I am enjoying it a lot so far. Also, I am already seeing the handling differences very clear, Street 1 snap oversteer which doesn't seem to appear with Street 2 cars.

 

[breeminator]

What Ivory Tower has produced here is beyond a simple and chaotic arcade grind racer... It's the most enjoyable open world driving simulation and it's absolutely astonishing that nowhere... U hear me right, nowhere do I read or find similar minded driving enthusiasts sharing and appreciating the game for what it actually is or let me put it this way, can be.
With the right settings and the mindset to treat it as the real thing...

I totally agree about the quality of the sounds. I play with quite a lot of assists as I can do faster times with them on, but I agree they reduce realism. I also agree that there is a lot more reasonably realistic simulation going on than most people give the game credit for. The game is generally underrated, IMO, though it does have a significant number of players all the same (e.g. 750k players had done the Maui playlist, so at least that many players played the game in the last 2 months or so).

Here is an example of someone liking the game with a wheel and being surprised more people don't play it: