The Dedicated Thread to AWD Drifting
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- Valve_Timing
That's gonna to be a huge negative . Aids may "aid" awd drifting but I believe it takes from the actually feel and the drift in general
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And I mastered my settings!! No Driving Aids!! w00t!!
My Settings in Drift Settings Depot: Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec (R32) '93
-Edit- I added in my URL for the settings
My Settings in Drift Settings Depot: Nissan Skyline GT-R Vspec (R32) '93
-Edit- I added in my URL for the settings
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ekmatt9
Well, obviouslly you're going too fast if you're hitting the walls
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- Valve_Timing
Well his drifting line could be a bit off also ... Post your settings and I will try them out and give you some feedback .
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I'd turn aids on when tuning an AWD since apparently they aren't even very realistic compared to awds in real life. But I dont really drive them.
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vtec513
Well, if his drifting line is off, it has nothing to do with his settings
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- Valve_Timing
Well it could his car could be setup poorly causing the car not to hold and travel the desired line .. what has been with you lately it kinda seems like your flaming everyones threads what gives eh ?
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Man, people takes things too seriously these days. Have a sense of humor! That's why I added the little "lol" smiley at the end.
I don't have anything against anyone.
These talks are so serious that I just want to lighten up the mood once in a while with one of these
In my experience in AWD, I've noticed that the single most important thing in AWD drifting is to take the right line. Taking the right line does not necessarily mean you have to have the perfect settings to do so.
For instance, my cars are tuned almost stock. It takes alot of time to recognize the lines an AWD car has to take to make it throught the turn. Tuning the car, imho, is far less important than learning the right techniques to find the right line.
Ofcourse you have to have your car tuned properly, but with easy AWD drifters like the R32, differences in suspension settings or lsd settings won't make a difference. Only in cars like the evo, the harder AWD drifter, need more focus on tuning than taking the right line.
What you guys need to understand is that tuning is less important in AWD cars compared to FR cars. There's more execution and throttle control involved in AWD drifting than any other.
So in answer to your response vtec, it's not his tuning of the r32 that has him running into walls, it's the throttle control and line in this case.
I don't have anything against anyone.
These talks are so serious that I just want to lighten up the mood once in a while with one of these
In my experience in AWD, I've noticed that the single most important thing in AWD drifting is to take the right line. Taking the right line does not necessarily mean you have to have the perfect settings to do so.
For instance, my cars are tuned almost stock. It takes alot of time to recognize the lines an AWD car has to take to make it throught the turn. Tuning the car, imho, is far less important than learning the right techniques to find the right line.
Ofcourse you have to have your car tuned properly, but with easy AWD drifters like the R32, differences in suspension settings or lsd settings won't make a difference. Only in cars like the evo, the harder AWD drifter, need more focus on tuning than taking the right line.
What you guys need to understand is that tuning is less important in AWD cars compared to FR cars. There's more execution and throttle control involved in AWD drifting than any other.
So in answer to your response vtec, it's not his tuning of the r32 that has him running into walls, it's the throttle control and line in this case.
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- Valve_Timing
I stand corrected and I'm sorry for taking you so serious F.I.
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- Valve_Timing
Well once you initiate the drift just center your wheel or release the thumbstick if you the ds2 ,and use the throttle to move you through the turn try not to hold the button and or pedal down but continuously blip the gas as you slide. then just countersteer and straighten yourself out for the exit happy drifting
happy drifting
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For me the angle is what I want, as I like to full throttle AWDs (such great stability), I love to drift the way I would in rally, stick the rear as far forward as possible and use the traction to keep the car from hitting the wall*.(without losing to much speed)
*There is a great example of this in BL's video the http://www.bgj.ca/GT4/BLvids/BL-DSJ3.xvid.avi Great stuff BL I tip my hat to you.
*There is a great example of this in BL's video the http://www.bgj.ca/GT4/BLvids/BL-DSJ3.xvid.avi Great stuff BL I tip my hat to you.
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2 variations for the R33 GTR, one for low speed drifting and the other for pretty high speed red means setting 2 for low speed
parts needed:
racing exaust
all engine work
tires: s1/s1...... n2/n2
original turbo......stage 2 turbo
racing brakes and brake controller
racing suspension
fulll customize tranny
triple plate clutch
carbon drive
VCD
weight reduction stage3, refresher
oil change
settings
front/rear
brakes 3/6
spring rate 9.0/9.0
height 96/96
bound 8/4
rebound 8/4
camber 2.6/1.8
toe 1/0
stabilizers 1/1
VCD 15
downforce 0/3
NO AIDS
the high speed setting you can drift both curves on the the motegi twin ring oval track at about 120 mph and the low speed setting is what i use most of the time for technical drifting. I use these settings a basis for all my AWD cars, i have a subaru STi, evo4, and VR-4 with varying HP but same suspension settings and they all drift beau tifully. If i forgot anything ill edit
parts needed:
racing exaust
all engine work
tires: s1/s1...... n2/n2
original turbo......stage 2 turbo
racing brakes and brake controller
racing suspension
fulll customize tranny
triple plate clutch
carbon drive
VCD
weight reduction stage3, refresher
oil change
settings
front/rear
brakes 3/6
spring rate 9.0/9.0
height 96/96
bound 8/4
rebound 8/4
camber 2.6/1.8
toe 1/0
stabilizers 1/1
VCD 15
downforce 0/3
NO AIDS
the high speed setting you can drift both curves on the the motegi twin ring oval track at about 120 mph and the low speed setting is what i use most of the time for technical drifting. I use these settings a basis for all my AWD cars, i have a subaru STi, evo4, and VR-4 with varying HP but same suspension settings and they all drift beau
tifully. If i forgot anything ill edit
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- GTP_Brent
gt_Sileighty_1For me the angle is what I want, as I like to full throttle AWDs (such great stability), I love to drift the way I would in rally, stick the rear as far forward as possible and use the traction to keep the car from hitting the wall*.(without losing to much speed)
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my lines are absolutely brutal though, lots of wheel-offs. I'm really not much of an awd drifter, I just chanced on a comfortable setup with that car.
Cap'n Jack
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- GoldMineGutted
I find AWD drifting fairly fun. Its alot more stable, but I can't get past drifting more than 2 corners without gaining traction or loosing control.
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Nah the final turn at deep forest made my eyes water.👍 👍 lolBoundary Layer
Edit:I'm the same I can make a FR drift "like" an 4WD.
HI, I hope this thread is not too long dead for me to get some help.
I just realized you could drift in GT4 and due to Driver Aids, GT4 DOESN"T suck, like I priorly thought. I'm an AWD Subaru junky my whole life, but now I need help with tuning and driving tips. Right now i'm working with a mostly stock STi version VI.
aside from driving and tuning tips, I have two main questions:
Is there any practical drifting (speed drifting) possible in GT4?
Is it possible to be good at drifting with a control pad and not an expensive wheel?
THanks a lot. I love this website.
--MIke
I just realized you could drift in GT4 and due to Driver Aids, GT4 DOESN"T suck, like I priorly thought. I'm an AWD Subaru junky my whole life, but now I need help with tuning and driving tips. Right now i'm working with a mostly stock STi version VI.
aside from driving and tuning tips, I have two main questions:
Is there any practical drifting (speed drifting) possible in GT4?
Is it possible to be good at drifting with a control pad and not an expensive wheel?
THanks a lot. I love this website.
--MIke
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- Cooly
Your right, GT4 doesn't suck 
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First things first, it is not Necessary but recommended that you use no Driving aids, Us guys on this forum do not believe in AIDS no matter what drive train, It's just the way things are.
Next i am going to assume you have a good set-up. If not i recommend you go to the Drift settings depot stickied at the top of the page.
Is there any practical drifting in GT4?. I am really not quite sure what is meant by this question, but i will answer to the best of my understanding.The AWD physics on GT4 allow very swift movements through corners with the right set-up. I guess lower angle sustains more speed, and vice versa.
Speed drifting which i think is your reference in this question, is obtained by next to no countersteer unless needed for control compared to exhibition drifting where a number of quality's are needed to perform the drift wanted.
So yes, ofcoarse speed drifting can be obtained. Though it's practicality can be questioned as i do not drift AWD myself.
Your next question is an easy one. Yes you can be extremely good at drifting using the controller. I reccomend you use the Analog sticks rather then the D-Pad, so finer applications of throttle and steering can be obtained.
If you want to see a good example of AWD drifting using the controller i suggest you take a look in the Video section located at the top of this page, and find yourself "Delphic Reason's" Video named "Posotive Lock", as it is a great example of the finest drifting GT4 has to offer.
Clickie
And ill have to mention Forced Induction, or else he'll get mad at me. (he's an AWD junkie, and will with hold the knowledge to answer any question you have related to AWD.)
Clickie
I hope this helps. And anything else needed, feel free to foward me a PM, and ill help you out as much as i can. Enjoy your stay.
.First things first, it is not Necessary but recommended that you use no Driving aids, Us guys on this forum do not believe in AIDS no matter what drive train, It's just the way things are.
Next i am going to assume you have a good set-up. If not i recommend you go to the Drift settings depot stickied at the top of the page.
Is there any practical drifting in GT4?. I am really not quite sure what is meant by this question, but i will answer to the best of my understanding.The AWD physics on GT4 allow very swift movements through corners with the right set-up. I guess lower angle sustains more speed, and vice versa.
Speed drifting which i think is your reference in this question, is obtained by next to no countersteer unless needed for control compared to exhibition drifting where a number of quality's are needed to perform the drift wanted.
So yes, ofcoarse speed drifting can be obtained. Though it's practicality can be questioned as i do not drift AWD myself.
Your next question is an easy one. Yes you can be extremely good at drifting using the controller. I reccomend you use the Analog sticks rather then the D-Pad, so finer applications of throttle and steering can be obtained.
If you want to see a good example of AWD drifting using the controller i suggest you take a look in the Video section located at the top of this page, and find yourself "Delphic Reason's" Video named "Posotive Lock", as it is a great example of the finest drifting GT4 has to offer.
Clickie
And ill have to mention Forced Induction, or else he'll get mad at me. (he's an AWD junkie, and will with hold the knowledge to answer any question you have related to AWD.)
Clickie
I hope this helps. And anything else needed, feel free to foward me a PM, and ill help you out as much as i can. Enjoy your stay.
My favorite AWD drifter (and one of my last GT4 drifting experiences) was the Evo VIII with about 350 Hp, N1/N1 Tires, and the AYC turned up to a stupid number (like almost max, at least up above 80%).
Find a corner (I looooved the wide hairpin on El Capitan reverse I think, the last right before the start/finish straightaway) get a flick going (steer in to upset weight balance, steer out to ready for the drift, and then toss it into the corner), get on the gas, and do the most counterintuitive thing to maintain the drift.
Steer deep INTO the turn, and laugh as the car crabwalks sideways through the turn.
You do have to make sure your angle is set up for the exit, I found my biggest problem was from taking too wide of an angle and carrying all the entry speed past the apex and into the far wall, gotta let off the throttle a little to make the car turn some more.
Steering back towards neutral or even countersteer slightly with reduced throttle would pull you out of it.
Finish the lap, watch the replay, laugh and laugh at the clouds of smoke coming from all four wheels of your fugly little Evo.
Find a corner (I looooved the wide hairpin on El Capitan reverse I think, the last right before the start/finish straightaway) get a flick going (steer in to upset weight balance, steer out to ready for the drift, and then toss it into the corner), get on the gas, and do the most counterintuitive thing to maintain the drift.
Steer deep INTO the turn, and laugh as the car crabwalks sideways through the turn.
You do have to make sure your angle is set up for the exit, I found my biggest problem was from taking too wide of an angle and carrying all the entry speed past the apex and into the far wall, gotta let off the throttle a little to make the car turn some more.
Steering back towards neutral or even countersteer slightly with reduced throttle would pull you out of it.
Finish the lap, watch the replay, laugh and laugh at the clouds of smoke coming from all four wheels of your fugly little Evo.
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