The forgotten exotic cars.

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-Ferrari
-McLaren
-Lamborghini
-Porsche
-etc.
Sure, sure we all heard these exotic machines almost everyday of our lives. Now lets talk different, there are so many exotic car manufacturer that come and go. I say what about cars that we least heard of, like Vector, Venturi, Mosler, and the like. Some of the least popular exotics performs equally or better than their popular competitors, but they're least heard of. :(
What do you think is the best least popular exotic car manufacturer in the world?
 
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Anyone know what this is?
 
Originally posted by Roo
Dauer (spelt correctly?) that made the 962, an early 90s Toyota GT-1.

I believe (i.e. I'm not sure...) that the 962 was a Porsche, and that Dauer were the race team that ran the cars. There was an EXTREMELY limited production run of them to satisfy the then Group C rules.

OK, I did a Google search, and came up with this :
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The Dauer brand is bound to a long sequence of successes in the world-wide championship Sport, the IMSA, the German Interserie; the best result is, without any doubt, the victory at the 1994 Le Mans 24 hours. Thel founder of the factory, Jochen Dauer, thought to develop, starting from the race version, a car adapted for the normal roads, personalized version of the PORSCHE 962 C. To the contrary of its "sisters", the KOENIG C62 and the DP 62, the car developed by Dauer-Racing has a body, made with Kevlar, completely new; it's due to the genius of the designer: Achim Storz. The result have been satisfactory, also from the point of view of the aerodynamics: in wind tunnel in fact it has been measured a cx value of 0.31 against the value of 0.50 of Porsche 962C.

ENGINE: the engine of Dauer 962 is supplied from the Porsche: it consists in a DOCH flat-6 water cooled with 2994 cc., 24 valves, two turbochargers KKK with two heat exchangers. The entire engine is managed by the Bosch Motronic 1,7. The results are exceptional: maximum power: 730 hp, maximum torque: 71 kgm @ 5000 rpm.

BODY CAR: the weight is 1080 kg. The brakes are up to te task of the situation such in a car: there are four enormous pierced autovented discs of Brembo factory with 330 milimeter of diameter. The car mounts wheels forged in alloy ("Speedline" on the road-version, "BBS" on the race-version) of 18 inches with 10J in the front and 11J in the rear, and it's equipped with enormous tyres: 265/35 ZR 18 in the front and 285/40 ZR 18 in the rear.

HISTORY: the Dauer 962 Le Mans has been introduced to the public during the 1993 Frankfurt Motor Show and the Dubai Motor Show in the same year. The Porsche GmbH has never officially participated to the plan, even if it has given a strong contribution to the development of the car and to the supply of pieces. The interest of Porsche GmbH was due to the agonistic employment of the Dauer-962, previewed from the beginning of the plan. Porsche GmbH, in fact, would have been intentional to enroll its 993 GT2 at the 1994 Le Mans 24 hours, but the car had not had an accurate development, so it would not have turned out competitive, both in its class and for the overall success. So it was believed that it was the much most favorable thing to support Dauer 962, accredited like street car and therefore in a position to participating to the Le Mans 24 hours both in the GT category and therefore to head for the overall success. In January 1994 the organizers of the Le Mans 24 hours introduced the norm about the flat bottom imposing that the "sottoscocca" of every car was flat in all the central part between the wheels. Dauer 962, already much less deporting than the Porsche 962C, could not have benefitted anymore of any aerodynamic weight. But thanks to the technicians of Stoccarda, the Dauer succeeded to accredit one new version of its 962 equipped with a different "sottoscocca", a different rear aileron and a longer snout. With such modifications two Dauer 962 enrolled at the Le Mans 24 hours, has dominated the race, reaching first and third overall final position. Porsche GmbH succeeded to impose it self in GT2 category with a 993 Turbo.
 
Indeed. Talk about forgotten. Not that it was any good in the eighties when it came out; it's ugly as all hell.
 
had a mosler racing at sydney (bathurst) recently, it went ok :)

forgotten.... cause it is old i guess is citroen sm. v6 maserati engine :)
they were cool for thier time :)
 
I got to drive a 1984 Lamorghini Jalpa for a week. I know Lamborghini isn't forgotten, but the Jalpa kind of is.

I stayed at a cabin (My dad's friends cabin) in Montana for a week. He phoned after about 2 days of being there to ask me how everything was when I got there. I told him it was fine, and then he asked If I'd checked out the car yet. I didnt know what he was talking about until he told me what was in the garage, and where the keys were. He said he didnt mind if I took it into town or something.

It was white with red leather interior. It had quite the punch but I drove it pretty nicely, I just wish my friends could have seen me. I had it for a week, but I only drove it 5 different times actually.

The manual gearbox was quite notchy I'd say, and the engine was alot quieter than I would have preffered, but I could still hear it, and it sounded awesome. It was a V8.

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I think before the movie: Back to the Future, the Delorean is in fact one of the most anonymous cars ever seen on the road. Althrough the aluminum body looks striking, it didn't last very long.

One of the fastest stock cars in GT2, the Vector M12 and the Vector W8, man (in the game) they're the most fun to drive on track. And it has good reviews (M12) on Road and Track magazine.

Mosler has been around for years, and an active participant at the ALMS (American Le Man Series) GT-Class, but still it got passed by Panoz, Saleen, and Callaway in the popularity dep't.

Heres the Mosler MT900S
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The race-prepared version, Mosler MT900R
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In this picture, this exotic can be easily be mistaken as the McLaren F1 GTR-LM

This car is also called the "mid-engined corvette" because it shares the engine, and some body cues (look at the rear-end).
It also featured just recently on the current issue of Road & Track magazine.
 
Originally posted by ving
yeah, a friend of myns father owns one of those....

nicer lookin car :)

he owned 2 lambos.

About the Lamborghini Jalpa?
There are only 410 of them around. Not including ones that have been crashed or destroyed. 410 were produced.



One car that I hope I will be able to afford one day is a mid 90's Ferarri Mondial T.They were relatively inexpensive new, and I think they should start to get into entry-level luxury sedan range within the next few years.
 
A couple of forgotten exotics:

Yamaha OX99-11
This car featured the Yamaha F1 engine, and was a true single-seater car. I think is was never intended to race, just to prove Yamaha could build a supercar, much less a road car!

Nissan MID4
This was one of the supercars that never made it. During the dark days of the GT-R-less Skylines, Nissan made a bold prototype sports coupe, with the intent of producing the first Japanese exotic car. This was one car I always wanted to see in production, but it never made it. However, it became the basis for the R32 (mechanically) and the '89 300ZX/Fairlady Z (artistically).

Mercedes-Benz C111
This was an unusual car built by Mercedes in the late 1970's, when it was judged that the rotory-engine would eventually take over the universe. But it didn't happen that way. But several examples of the car do exist.
 
The Spectre R42, made by a little known British sports car manufacturer.

Sbarro and Rinspeed, two companys from Switzerland I think
 
Originally posted by 12sec. Civic


About the Lamborghini Jalpa?
There are only 410 of them around. Not including ones that have been crashed or destroyed. 410 were produced.

yeah i know they as rare as, this guy was rich and had connections..... makes me wish that he wasnt a tottal turd so I could have liked him. :(
 
Originally posted by pupik


Nissan MID4


wow!

1987

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circa 1991

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obvious styling cues...


what about the Lotus Esprit? it's been with us for quite a while, yet it's never the first car that comes to mind when we talk about supercars.
 
I don't think about these types of cars often, probably because they're best forgotten. Which is, uh, why they're "forgotten" in the first place. ;) Some examples:

The Noble look-alike:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1999@$Ascari@$Ecosseg.html

Audi could have done no wrong to release this (but only with the original W16):
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Audi@$Rosemeyer Conceptg.html

The George Jetson-mobile:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Avanti@$Convertibleg.html

The F360 copy:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1992@$Bizzarrini@$BZ-2001 Conceptg.html

Three wheels does not make a popular car. Anyone remember the Robin Reliant? (Mr. Bean does....)
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Campagna@$T-REXg.html

Almost like the Chronos concept, but uglier:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Cardi@$Curarag.html

I like this one; so retro-post-modern-something-or-other. I'd drive it.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Chrysler@$Chronos Conceptg.html

Odd mix between an F355 and a Diablo:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1995@$Cizeta-Moroder@$V16Tg.html

This one is nice! Part Vanquish, part Bentley GT:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Cunningham@$C7 Conceptg.html

The half-forgotten Impreza work-over. Even kept the fog lights.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Delfino@$Feroceg.html

I don't know what to make of this....
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Emme Lotus@$422Tg.html

Before the Prowler, before the Lotus 340R:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1996@$Ford@$Indigo Conceptg.html

There's a reason we forget Gillet: they fall apart.
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1997@$Gillet@$Vertigog.html

Ironically, it looks like a cheap Miata:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1992@$Ginetta@$G33g.html

Desperately trying to ape the F50:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Innotech@$Mysterrog.html

What did Isdera do so wrong to be forgotten?
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1993@$Isdera@$Commendatore 112ig.html

Someone actually copied late-80's GM styling:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Isotta Fraschini@$T8g.html

Still around, but I couldn't tell you why:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Jensen@$S-V8g.html

Resembles Lotus' M250 concept:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1989@$Jiotto@$Caspitag.html

A bad impression of a Griffith:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1997@$Josse Car@$Indigo 3000g.html

The four-eyed, frosty frog:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1991@$Lotec@$C1000g.html

The Lamborghini of SUVs -- literally:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1986@$Lamborghini@$LM002g.html

Based on the Elise, it was so easy to spin, it made Vipers feel like Civics:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1997@$Lotus@$GT1g.html

If you can remember what the initials stood for, stand up and get outside for the first time in 10 years!
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$MCV@$CH4 Conceptg.html

Too many styling designs stolen, none of them integrated well:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1992@$Monteverdi Hai@$650F1g.html
Just not cutting it:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Mosler@$MT900g.html

Not bad, just not great:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Mullen@$M-11 Roadsterg.html

More good styling cues, more bad coherence:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Osca@$2500 GTg.html

Didn't we see this as the Jensen....
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Parradine@$525Sg.html

Reminds me of what Tommy-Kaira became (Leading Edge):
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1994@$Piontek@$Sportechg.html

Makes me stand up and say: "So what?"
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Saker@$SV1g.html

I imagine this would be a blast to drive, just not fun to drive:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1994@$Schuppan@$962CRg.html

Ick:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Sensor@$GTRg.html

This is a good car, but it's really track-only:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Stealth@$B6g.html

The twin-engine aspect is cool, but there's high maintenance, and the gearshift is a bear to learn:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Tiger@$Z100 Mk1g.html

Looks okay. Must have been bad marketing:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Trident@$Icenig.html

Cool, but not exactly graceful:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Ultima@$GTRg.html

The company formerly known as Tommy-Kaira but now known as Leading Edge:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2000@$Vemac@$RD180g.html

White ick:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/1998@$Vision@$K2g.html

Saw this myself at the NY Auto Show. Totally uninspiring:
http://www.supercars.net/cars/2001@$Yes@$Clubsportg.html

Yes, all these links are from the same website. I'm sure there are more. The late-80's alone had more failed supercar-wannabe companies than there are established companies today. So much wasted steel and rubber....
 
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