Gran Turismo 7 "February" 2025 Update Prediction & Discussion Thread

[Famine]

Fine then...

Please use this thread to make your predictions for, and discuss, Gran Turismo 7's next update.

We're calling it the February 2025 update because... why not? While Kazunori Yamauchi has stated that the updates aren't monthly by design we have grown to expect it. February seems likely, ahead of the game's third anniversary, and it'll probably be called 1.56.

As a quick fun note, there have been 99 cars added to the game to date. I wonder what car #100 will be - something special, perhaps?

Notes:

• DON'T POST WISHLISTS
  There are no second chances on this because we've wasted too much time with people who want to divert threads from their purpose and we've gone out of our way to give them enough other places to get it out of their system...
  
  Apropos of that, wishlists go in the Car & Track Wishlist Thread which we made specifically for that purpose:
  
  
  

  The Gran Turismo Car & Track Wishlist Thread...

  It seems that making wishlists is a particularly popular hobby for many of you :D No matter what the thread may be, someone, somehow, seems to shoehorn a list of cars and/or tracks that they'd like in the game into it - and we have more than one thread that's basically a wishlist with extra...

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• Predictions are guesses with evidence. Given that the entire past history of free Gran Turismo game updates (with one exception) has given us the expectation of the number of cars (single digits) and tracks (one or zero), if you're posting ridiculously long lists of cars and multiple tracks then that's a wishlist. See the first rule. So are lists of brands (multiple) which have never been in the game series before or which have been cut and are showing no signs of returning (coughs Lotus *coughs).
• bUt We DoN't HaVe AnY eViDeNcE. Sure you do. There's been, like, 27 content updates now. That shows you what volume of content you can expect and what type of content PD is focusing on. Lately it's also been filling in generational gaps of certain model lines and there's quite a few left, but there's been a few surprises in the past, some well-placed cars from our Suggestions forum (hey look, another place to express your car/track wishes!), and some 4K-era upgrades to cars from previous games.
• Go

 

[Dragonwhisky]

I predict, if there is a technically pedantic February 2025 update, the brutally practical will call it a March 2025 update.

 

[Darla Starch]

• contentious oddball pick
• sports car or two
• return to the series
• race car, likely not of the GT3/GT4/LMH variety to rustle some jimmies

About the baseline we can expect. Therefore, um...

• 1992 Toyota Sera
• 1995 Ferrari F355
• 2020 Shelby GT500
• PD Oval Racer thing (or a 2010ish NASCAR expy)

 

[MatskiMonk]

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[Famine]

Note: above gif does not in fact imply willingness to pay for any update, ever.

 

[Seikenfreak]

I'm very surprised by the apparent enthusiasm for Pikes Peak around here. Wouldn't it just function like a time trial course? Or is it because it was supposedly scanned and thus a more realistic fantasy?

If that's the case, where's my Isle of Man course? lol

 

[RACECAR]

Fine then...

 

[GTP_reddevil]

I’m going for 6 cars this time which may be far-fetched but at this point based on the hype of the next update, who knows:

• Porsche 911 Turbo S ‘93 - datamine car and PD will certainly love to keep the theme of Porsche cars going strong.
• Ferrari 812 Superfast ‘19 - datamine and considering how requested this one is, maybe the time is now.
• Pagani Zonda Cinque ‘09 - I feel PD would want an older Zonda and considering the reasonable amount of 2000’s supercars, this would fit in nicely.
• Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) ‘04 - previous premium car and would finally complete the generations of Corvette.
• Hyundai i30N ‘19 - the relationship with Hyundai is something they’ll want to keep strong and I feel this hot hatch is definitely in the works and perhaps it could be soon.
• Toyota Minolta 88C-V ‘89 - if the relationship with Toyota is strong then why not, I do see this car appearing either in GT7 or GT8 and it will be another car in the Group C category which in my opinion needs more cars.

Despite the hype, I cannot foresee a track appearing next but hopefully I’m wrong in that regard.

 

[Seikenfreak]

Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) ‘04 - previous premium car and would finally complete the generations of Corvette.

..but..but.. they don't have the C6 Z06 😢 Just the absurd ZR-1

 

[CTznOfTime]

Honestly I don't know how anyone can make any predictions without anything to go by...

There isn't a single clue...

At this point, anyone's guess is as good as $0 or anyone's else's....

Anything goes, as long as it doesn't resemble a wishlist, so the wildest of guess is ok, just dont say M5 or PikesPeak or the usual moaning...right Famine...?


Edit:
Feb is a short month ..
Valentine's day will occupy most of us for that quarter of the population who has a significant others...
Winner of this thread is the one predicting the closest outcome?

So I will find out in March ?

 

[Gtsport28]

a French car if we stick to the February update!!
2022 Citroën ds and 2023 Renault 4L!! yes but which one?? 🤔🤔

 

[Famine]

Honestly I don't know how anyone can make any predictions without anything to go by...

There isn't a single clue...

Uh-huh.

bUt We DoN't HaVe AnY eViDeNcE. Sure you do. There's been, like, 27 content updates now. That shows you what volume of content you can expect and what type of content PD is focusing on. Lately it's also been filling in generational gaps of certain model lines and there's quite a few left, but there's been a few surprises in the past, some well-placed cars from our Suggestions forum (hey look, another place to express your car/track wishes!), and some 4K-era upgrades to cars from previous games.

As a quick summary of those content updates:

Thus far we've had... 99 cars across 26 content updates. That's a mean value of 3.8 cars per update. Most updates (15) have just three cars, so we can expect 3-4 cars.

The mean type/origin/newness of the cars has been:

Road Car: 2.8
Race Car: 0.8
Tuned Car: 0.2

Asia: 1.8
Europe: 1.6
Americas: 0.5

Brand Central: 2.3
Legends: 0.8
UCD Only: 0.7

All-New-to-GT: 2.7
Returning (including variants): 1.1

In terms of patterns, we've only ever seen three region-exclusive updates - 1.13, 1.52, 1.55 - and all Asia-only. There's never been two successive ones, but there were two in the last three... Only one was more than three cars, and that was 1.55.

The American-car pattern continued with 1.55. An update with any American car has been followed by three updates with none on four occasions. 1.53 had one American car, 1.55 had none - so two more updates to go!

On car counts, every update with four cars has been followed by one with three cars (1.25-1.26, 1.32-1.33, 1.36-1.38). 1.55 had four cars... However, we've also had one previous run of six updates of more than three cars with just one three-car update (1.25-1.32, with 1.26 having three) and we're five updates into a similar run (1.48-1.55, with 1.52 having three)


We can likely expect 3-4 cars. If it's four, it's probably going to be an Asia/Europe mix - two each - with two in BC and one each in Legends and UCD-only, three all-new and one returning, and three road cars with one race car.

Given my notes in the quote above... let's say:

• BMW M1 '79 - Europe, Road, Legends, All-New (and high on our Suggestions forum list)
• Hyundai i30N '24 - Asia, Road, Brand Central, All-New (and continued Hyundaing, also it's recently been included in ACEvo)
• Nissan Pulsar GTi-R '90 - Asia, Road, UCD, Returning (and high on our Suggestions forum list)
• Peugeot 208 T16 Pikes Peak '13 - Europe, Race, Brand Central, All-New (and high on our Suggestions forum list, as well as continued Pikes Peak noises without actually adding Pikes Peak yet)

Edit: Oh yeah, average update prices have been 9.25m per update, or 919,845cr per car. That's badly skewed by the only two eight-figure updates; without those you'd be looking at 5.86m and 644,971cr per car. Those four cars would probably set you back 450k for the rally car, 600k for the M1, and probably 80k combined for the other two at a cheapish 1.1m combined.

 

[GTboyz]

hype of the next update

Wait what? What hype?

 

[jrbabbitt]

Note: above gif does not in fact imply willingness to pay for any update, ever.

Love the legal disclaimer...

 

[GlamFM]

Wait what? What hype?

Jordan seems to know about the next update and has said it’s one with a lot to talk about.

 

[Arkseven]

If the #100 car is so especial, I predict that the next update will feature only one car

 

[mastretta_mx]

Following the rules some facts:

-Every update (with the exception of July 2022) has come with at least 1 japanese car
-Partnership with Hyundai/Genesis group seems to get more traction
-Porsche, Nissan and Toyota are the brands with more cars added on updates
-PD is focused on adding new cars to the series (not necessarily modern cars, though)
-Tracks are coming on an average of 1 every 8 months
-Pikes Peak 10 years license is going to expire soon
-A Super GT driver spoiled that PD has laser scanned Motegi


Now after these points my prediction:

Cars (5):

• Porsche 911 GT3 -R (992) 2023
• Hyundai Elantra N 2021
• Plymouth Cuda 340 six barrell 1970
• Toyota Prius 2022
• BMW M4 2021

Tracks (2):


-Mobility resort Motegi
-PIkes Peak International HillClimb

 

[Seikenfreak]

I dunno, I feel like certain people here are trying to hint at something but I haven't figured it out. I can't think of any car that's important to GTs history or something that hasn't been added or would warrant being very interesting except like a Redbull X2025 or something.. But I have zero interest in that.

Or Famine maybe suspiciously saying "Fine then.." is like.. Its a police car? But that's not very interesting. And historically GT, only thing that comes to mind is that R34 GTR pace car thing with the GT livery. Has lights on the roof so it looks like a police car?

I'm grasping at straws here and now I don't know who to trust.

The only thing, IMO, that would be make the next patch more interesting than usual would be a new feature. And the only feature that sounds like was in the works was some sort've B-Spec mode. And "interesting" is the operative word because it's like.. indifferent. "Exciting" is a net positive. "Interesting" and "A lot to talk about" is something polarizing B-Spec fits the bill for me.

 

[05XR8]

Because PD added the C-HR and Civic EF3 and just because Honda added this on their YouTube channel.


Last time we got FF cars in an update it was Update 1.48 with a Civic and Volvo. Before that it was Update 1.38 with two Civics and the GR.4 Mazda3. We’ve had back to back Toyotas, Nissans, Porsches and even Suzukis, but we haven’t had back to back Hondas. PD adding the first FF coupe(and a nineties coupe at that) to the game and something other than a Civic, appears ripe as PD are digging in the crates of iconic sports coupes recently(E36 M3, Chevelle 454, Skyline R31, ‘69 Charger). The Prelude got a major overhaul and step up when the H22A arrived in the BB1 Prelude.

I know there were little whispers about the Fiat Coupe ‘00 from the datamine, but the Prelude seems just as plausible as any FF coupe from the nineties.

Next up is due to the GT Manufacturers season coming up. The exhibition events end on February 16. This leaves the end of the month a good time to add a new entry for one of the manufacturer choices. BMW already have four choices and PD will add a fifth. The M4 GT3 will finally get a chance to prove is winning ways in GT7.
In its 2023 Spa-Francorchamps 24 hour race winning livery. That race was BMWs 25th race win at the Spa 24H and marks a nice entry for a special car to be added to the game. Not to mention a chance for those that chose BMW would be able to switch to the latest car.
As much as it would be cool for the M4 road car to be added at the same time, I’m not seeing it. However, … I am seeing one of the datamine BMW 02 series to be added. Namely the new to the Gran Turismo franchise 1975 2002 Tii.

That’s it from me. An update of 2-door coupés.

The Gran Turismo 7 February Update: Three New Cars and Other Stuffs

• Honda Prelude Si 4WS ‘91
• GR.3 BMW M4 GT3 Rowe Racing #98 ‘23
• BMW 2002 Tii ‘75

 

[Seikenfreak]

Is it really Pikes Peak? Maaaaaaan.. Well I guess I don't have to worry about the update then. I think the Escudo is already in the game, but that would've been a culturally significant Gran Turismo car.

*This is not confirmation that it is Pikes Peak.

 

[eran0004]

I'm very surprised by the apparent enthusiasm for Pikes Peak around here. Wouldn't it just function like a time trial course? Or is it because it was supposedly scanned and thus a more realistic fantasy?

We have races at the Tokyo circuits and the road width is probably about the same as at Pikes Peak, so I wouldn't rule out racing there.

But I'd gladly take just time trials too.

 

[SSQES]

Fine then...

Please use this thread to make your predictions for, and discuss, Gran Turismo 7's next update.

As a quick fun note, there have been 99 cars added to the game to date. I wonder what car #100 will be - something special, perhaps?

Finally another "Big" update
Considering the "hype", i'm expecting a new track and few things. Updates containing tracks usually come with more cars.
I think, since there will be "a lot to talk about" :
About 6 cars (5 to 7 max), 1 track and B-spec/Endurance races coming ("teased" at Worlds, maybe it's closer than we thought? And I don't see B-spec released without endurances Races, supposed coming since Kaz open letter...)

-New scapes (obviously)
-New races/Menu
-B-spec and Endurances
-About the track, I'd go with Motegi "https://www.gtplanet.net/motegi-coming-back-gran-turismo-20240503/"
-For the cars :
Since the number 100 might be special...
*Nissan R390 GT1 Race Car '98 : Iconic in GT, go well with the GT-One (which arrived on... March 2023)
*Chevrolet Corvette Z06 (C5) ‘04 : Returning premium, fill the Corvette gap
*BMW M1 '79 : Highly requested car
*Mazda AutoZam AZ-1 '93 : Returning and GT vibes
*Ferrari 812 Superfast '19 : Datamine
*Citroen 2CV Charleston '89 : We've got 4L and DS23, another historical french car. PoDy prefer to add the last/highest version, so I chose the Charleston, that ended in 89/90. We also got a 2CV from '54 in GT4 to GT6

 

[GlamFM]

I predict, if there is a technically pedantic February 2025 update, the brutally practical will call it a March 2025 update.

My birthday is on the 29th of July, but I don’t want to be pedantic about is so I just tell people my birthday is in August 👍

 

[hyperspeed980]

a French car if we stick to the February update!!
2022 Citroën ds and 2023 Renault 4L!! yes but which one?? 🤔🤔

Feels like we're due for a Peugeot then, no?

 

[i386]

Jordans gets added as an avatar/character, next to Sarah & Luca

 

[VXR]

I bet there'll be a continuation of the Toyota back catalogue, so maybe we'll see a Glanza V. Or a pink Vitz RS.

 

[Nakano219]

Here's how I currently look at roster additions:

• Race cars that are not PD-original (Mazda3 Gr.4, F3500) generally need some real-world achievements. You've all heard my reasoning on this before, but the pattern is PD would much rather reach back for something like the V12 LMR because it won rather than take something like the BMW M that is current but hasn't done anything IRL yet.
• Road cars generally fit into a few categories: Cars that extend the generational timeline of important models, weird/unique cars from brands PD have a good relationship with, popular standalone cars that generally have appeared in other games first (again unless they are Toyota/Suzuki/Porsche/Tesla), and generally-American classic cars. Not every car fits in these buckets (the RUF RGT for example), but 90% do.
• There's also the the SEMA/Pebble Beach/VGT guaranteed additions to consider

I seem to like spending time on tables that go through each update recently, so let's plot that out:

Spoiler: Big table

Update month	Victorious, infamous, or PD race cars	Standalone road car, 1985-onwards, generally not GT-unique	Cars adding a generation to a model's timeline	"Unique" cars from PD-favourable brands	American classics	SEMA, Pebble Beach, and VGT	Other
January 2024	F3500	Ioniq 5 N	Civic EF	C-HR
November 2024	W194	Escort Cos.	911 Turbo	Mission X Jimny Sierra
October 2024			'24 GT-R Evo VIII	Hiace
July 2024	Impreza WRC	430 Scuderia Gallardo	E36 M3			Genesis Gr.1	RUF RGT
May 2024	NSX GT500		Skyline R31 Civic EG				Volvo 240 Volvo V40
April 2024					Chevelle	Skoda VGT	Afeela
March 2024	GT-One	Urus	R8
February 2024			TTS Evo IX				Renault R4
January 2024				Jimny		Bulgari VGT Genesis VGT
November 2023		Challenger Demon LFA 190E Model 3	992 GT3 RS Nismo 400R		Charger
September 2023	Mazda3 Gr.4		Civic FL2			RCR Civic
August 2023		MC20 GR Corolla		Himedic	C1 Corvette
June 2023		Valkyrie	Evo III Impreza
May 2023			R32 Nismo			Maverick	Giulia GTV
April 2023	AMG GT3 SF23 / Toyota SF23 / Honda	XJ220
March 2023	RS5 DTM Porsche 904	959		Alphard			Mazda3
February 2023	RA272		901 Carrera			Italdesign S Italdesign O	DS Pallas
December 2022	Celica WRC	Giulia GTAm Corvette C8 Chiron				Ferrari VGT
November 2022		M2 Sierra Cos.	S14 Kouki
October 2022			MX-5 NR-A Kenmeri GT-R			GT-R GT3 (movie)	Merak
September 2022	ID.R		S14 Zenki			Porsche Spyder
August 2022	MP4/4	Cayman GT4			GTO Judge
July 2022	Skyline Group 5	918				A6GCS
June 2022	Escudo				Ford Roadster	Suzuki Gr.3
May 2022	GR010					Suzuki VGT Rampage
April 2022	BRZ GT300		BRZ gen 2	Cappuccino

What does that mean? I have no idea yet, and I'm going to wait until at least the next GTWS exhibition schedule to make an actual prediction. But there's some data for you all, to help you out with yours.

 

[Lomic]

We have races at the Tokyo circuits and the road width is probably about the same as at Pikes Peak, so I wouldn't rule out racing there

Not an issue of width but it is not a closed loop, so it would be a "one lap" race to the summit ?

Or they do something Eiger like with a much shorter track in something looking like Pikes Peak, which goes up and down.

 

[MrHorsepower]

My vote goes for 3 cars if we get an update on february

• Returning car from older games/series "filler": something like an Evo, Subaru Impreza STi or Nismo R34 Z Tune.
• A completely new car to the series: I'd say the Amg engined Aston Vantage, Ferrari 812 or something from Hyundai's N range.
• Something completely u expected and u heard from the data leaks.

Of course, we'll get a handful of new events, extra menus and scapes

 

[RaY29rus]

Or they do something Eiger like with a much shorter track in something looking like Pikes Peak, which goes up and down.

Or...

Personally, I now expect a track, after Jordan's teaser. It's kinda overdue anyway, been a while. Don't think it will actually be Pikes Peak though, simply don't believe it's actually going to happen, I lost faith.