The Grammar & Spelling Thread

[Liquid]

Yeah, the second one is correct because Mercedes ends in S.

Mercedes', but Mercedes-Benz's.

 

[Prince.M5]

Ah, fantastic! Thanks for the tips and corrections Liquid.

I'm soon to be an English teacher so all these stuff are very important.

 

[Matty]

Ah, fantastic! Thanks for the tips and corrections Liquid.

I'm soon to be an English teacher so all this stuff are very important.

Good luck 👍

 

[Prince.M5]

Good luck 👍

Thanks mate and thanks for the correction.

Need to sharpen up my grammar!

 

[Carbonox]

Ah, fantastic! Thanks for the tips and corrections Liquid.

I'm soon to be an English teacher so all this stuff is very important.

I'll go even further than Matty. ^^

 

[Prince.M5]

I'll go even further than Matty. ^^

Yeah, I was walking to the toilet and thought that 'are' should be 'is' instead.

Anyway, thanks also to you mate! 👍

 

[MSTER232]

I punctuate if it's part of the quote. I'm actually unsure when I would ever do otherwise.

Those were actually speech marks, (") and you put the full stop inside of the speech marks instead of outside them. If you are going to carry on with the sentence, then you put a comma instead. (') <- That is a quotation mark.

Example:

"I parked my car over there." - Simple sentence

"I parked my car over there," said MSTER232. - Adding more things to it, still correct grammar.

You could also use exclamation marks or question marks to replace the comma:

"I thought I told you that I parked the car over there!" shouted MSTER232. - You don't put a capital letter here.

"Where did you park my car, and what did you do with it?" enquired MSTER232. - You don't put a capital letter here either.

 

[BobK]

With apostrophe is possesive, without apostrophe is plural.



Although you will sometimes see people write Boeing's as a plural, it's wrong.

CDs. DVDs. BMWs. All plural.

Quite true, except for the word "it". "It's" is a contraction of "it is", period, full stop. The possessive form of "it" does not have an apostrophe.

 

[Liquid]

Quite true, except for the word "it". "It's" is a contraction of "it is", period, full stop. The possessive form of "it" does not have an apostrophe.

Possessive form of it is its, that's correct. But there's a difference between a possessive apostrophe and a possessive pronoun.

's - possessive suffix attatched to nouns. The car's colour, as in, the colour of the car (Genitive). The man's sense of humour, as in, the sense of humour of the man (Genitive). The post's threadworthiness, as in, the threadworthiness of the post (Genitive).

It's pure coincidence that the contracted form of 'it is' is it's, courtesy of the S in is. It's got nothing to do with the possessive form of it, and is comparable with I'm, you're, we're and they're. Stems from the auxiliary verb 'be'.

Its is a possessive pronoun. Comparable with my, your, his, her, its, our, their.

He kicked his brother.

You fell, and broke your leg.

The cup fell, and its handle broke.

Nothing to do with it's, although the two are often confused.

 

[BobK]

Possessive form of it is its, that's correct. But there's a difference between a possessive apostrophe and a possessive pronoun.

's - possessive suffix attatched to nouns. The car's colour, as in, the colour of the car (Genitive). The man's sense of humour, as in, the sense of humour of the man (Genitive). The post's threadworthiness, as in, the threadworthiness of the post (Genitive).

It's pure coincidence that the contracted form of 'it is' is it's, courtesy of the S in is. It's got nothing to do with the possessive form of it, and is comparable with I'm, you're, we're and they're. Stems from the auxiliary verb 'be'.

Its is a possessive pronoun. Comparable with my, your, his, her, its, our, their.

He kicked his brother.

You fell, and broke your leg.

The cup fell, and its handle broke.

Nothing to do with it's, although the two are often confused.

Actually the pronoun with the verb "to be" yields a whole plethora of contractions. To wit: I'm, he's, she's. we're, you're,they're. Similarly, we have other possessive pronouns: his, hers and yours.

 

[Liquid]

Actually the pronoun with the verb "to be" yields a whole plethora of contractions.

That's exactly what I wrote, listing the contractions for all the nominative case pronouns except for he and she.

Similarly, we have other possessive pronouns: his, hers and yours.

But I was wrong on this point. What I wrote, "my, your, his, her, its" and so on are actually possessive determiners, used to demonstrate possession. Error on my part. Whereas mine, yours, his, hers, ours etc. are the genuine possessive pronouns.

But either way, its and it's are two distinct terms and I never confused them in the first place considering my original post on the matter had nothing to do with personal pronouns nor possessive pronouns. My post was stricly to do with the formation of the plural and the 's possessive/genitive suffix, then you insinuated the use of pronouns whereas the point I addressed and clarified was only to do with nouns and not pronouns so I don't see where this is going.

Ambiguity solved, if there ever was any.

 

[t3hgt3ftw1n]

One thing I don't understand is: why does "alright" and "all right" exist if they both mean the same thing (I think)?

 

[Liquid]

Alright is just a minor corruption of all right. Both are acceptable.

Alright/all right = Generally, they are interchangeable in the sense of things being good, fine or acceptable.

Except:

All right only = Everything correct, "He answered them all and got them all right".

 

[t3hgt3ftw1n]

Ah. It just seems that 'alright' has been exploited in my opinion .

 

[Liquid]

British English phrases used by United Statesmen

Can any of our resident Statesiders confirm any of these?

 

[Schwartz]

Roundabout, definitely an everyday word when referring to these:

As for the others, I really never see them used. Except for bum. Mostly when we say "Bloody" we're impersonating Ron Weasley (or any other british person ).

 

[Liquid]

But do you yourself use bum in the sense of 'ass'/arse, or just in the sense of tramp or homeless person?

 

[Schwartz]

No. The only words on that list I use are "roundabout" and "proper." The latter of those two words I picked up from GTPlanet, kind of like how one acquires an accent when living in a foreign place for a while.

I do use some of the other words, but their usage doesn't come naturally, and never in casual conversation (That is, unless I'm impersonating Ron Weasley).

 

[Liquid]

Well I'm chuffed to bits that you're using our bloody words and frigging colloquialisms. That'll dink dank do for me, lerd.

 

[Schwartz]

Here's what I just discovered the other day:

You're not = You are not = You aren't
Therefore
You're not = You aren't

I find that quite odd that you can fit these three words together in two separate ways that are interchangeable with each other.

 

[nealcropper]

My girlfreinds family say currens for currents. That get's right on my nerves. I keep telling her that it isn't even a word. She always argues that it is, even after a search online and a look in the dictionary. Now she says it just to wind me up, and it works.

 

[kikie]

We already have one of these. Try doing a search for it.

You search it then. I couldn't find anything. If you want to tell me to search, the least you could do is actually find the thread. I've looked everywhere, high and low, but I couldn't find any thread remotely similar to this.

Although I locked the thread, I started a similar thread in 2010.

I hope your thread has more luck than mine.


https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=141974


EDIT:

I forgot to mention that I locked the thread because the very first answer I got was, I believe if I'm not mistaken, a huge picture of a troll, saying that I was a troll. I answered saying that my 19 inch monitor was big enough to see his picture but edited my answer because a mod removed the troll picture.
I thought my "grammar and spelling" thread was a mistake so I locked it.