The Human Comedy 7 - Gr.3 Red Bull Ring

[breeminator]

I feel like each of these new mission races deserves its own thread, I don't think it's going to be hugely easy to get first place, having just tried this one.

Here is what not to do - one stop on RH in the Huracan using fuel mix 6.

Fuel mix 6 made the fuel last for just over 30 mins, so on that basis, one stop would work. The hard tyres had little wear, and I was way off the pace of the fastest AIs.

The weather switched to wet at 30 mins, so it would be viable to do the first stop at 30 mins, probably onto IM tyres there, and not stop again. However, that may not be fast enough.

Because the race is BOP, you can't adjust brake balance, so the Huracan was wearing the rears more than the fronts. It didn't cause a huge problem, but a car with more weight to the front might be better. AWD would be nice, but isn't an option.

What seem like possible strats to try next, after the RH one stop disaster:

15 mins RS, pit
15 mins RS, pit
15 mins IM, pit
15 mins RS (or maybe 20 mins, 10 mins for these last two stints, hard to say as I had parked the car up so wasn't getting correct wetness display until I started driving again)

30 mins RM, pit
30 mins IM

Obviously adjusting the fuel mix to make it last either 15 or 30 mins.

Note that as the track dries out later in the race, it visually shows the opposite to reality! The racing line appears wet, but is dry, and away from the racing line appears dry but is wet. If you're on R tyres rather than IM, you need to stick to the bit of the track that looks wet!

 

[breeminator]

Okay, I've won it now, wasn't that hard in the end.

4 x 15 minute stints, RM, RM, W, RM. I used the RX-Vision GT3 Concept, and you can just max out the fuel usage and complete the 15 minute stints.

I went to TC5 for the wet stint, and the lead AI pulled away from me, but it completely screwed up by doing an extra pit stop onto W then stopped again for RM. I switched back to TC1 for the last stint.

I went off a couple of times due to running wide in the last 15 minute stint. You have to be very careful to keep a tight line at every apex, as the car will just slide off the track if you go onto the wet part of the track.

I actually used RS for my first 15 minute stint, but they do slow down quite a bit with wear, so I tried RM for my 2nd stint, and they're quite a bit quicker over the 15 minutes.

 

[Samus]

How far behind do you start?

 

[breeminator]

How far behind do you start?

Not all that far behind, I think it was 15 seconds. The fastest AI was similar to my pace, the 2nd AI is absolutely miles behind by the end, so it's all about the battle with the fastest one. The fastest AI also made a mistake by going onto wets a lap too late. Without its mistakes it would be pretty tight to beat it, as it was faster than me for the wet stint, but maybe a car with more weight at the back would be better at getting the power down in the wet. I think if I'd done my first stint on RM instead of RS I might have just about caught it by the 30 minute mark.

 

[SrGS]

My strategy was a little bit different, I used the Corvette Gr.3, started on hard tires and fuel mixture 6. The AI driver in P1 was faster than I was, increasing the time between us, nothing to worry about at the beginning of the race. Most of the AI drivers (except the one leading the race) went to the pits around minute 15, they started the race on medium tires. I gained a few positions and it started raining close to the middle of the race, so I went to the pits for the first time (I believe the AI in P1 did the same), changed to heavy rain tires and filled the tank to it's maximum capacity.

Then it was a piece of cake, the AI took a lot of time to realize the weather conditions, a few of the drivers went to the pits twice to change between intermediate and heavy rain tires. I used fuel mixture 4, went a few positions up the grid, and it stopped raining. As soon as the rain meter gauge was below 1/3 of the way, I went to the pits for the second time, filled up the tank, and changed to medium tires. The AI was sliding all over the place as the racetrack was drying up, they eventually figured it out and changed back to slick tires.

I was alternating between fuel mixtures 2 and 4, got to first place around minutes 40-50, when the race leader went to change back to slick tires (on his second, and I believe last pit stop). From this moment to the end of the race was just managing the race line, keeping on the dry sections of the track as much as possible and avoiding the kerbs. I lapped most of the AI and won the race 20+ seconds ahead of second place. It was a good race, not very hard though.

 

[Bojador]

This will be my next challenge. Tried a few strategies yesterday but couldn’t make it work because I was out of fuel on the first stint (had to do 1 very very very slow lap because I waited for the rain to start) and then I was spinning like crazy when I changed to slicks trying to recover 1 minute gap. It’s a fun one though.

 

[Bloodshot]

I used the R.S 01 and as breeminator said its only u v 1 ai and he is fast but start the race on RH for 30 mins and race on fuel 3 so u fill up at 20mins the refill at the 30 min mark avg your lap times at 1.33-1.34… i did realise the comp holds onto his wet tyres for a couple laps too long and i messed up by overfilling my car on last pit stop so if i was to do it again those would be my changes i won by 10secs with a bad slide off track near the end 3rd place was 1min 06 behind

 

[Bojador]

Got 2nd after making a mistake on the second to last lap and loosing an advantage of 10 seconds. I was overtaken on the last lap and finished 2 seconds behind 🤦‍♂️

I used the Mclaren and did a 1st stint on RM, second stint on RM, 3rd stint on IM and last stint on RS.

I think I may have made a mistake in going with IM since this was the stint where I lost a lot of time for Myazono who was on wet tires, and I over fuelled on the last stint. I should probably use RM on the last stint as well. I would still have won if I didn’t go off track at the end but it was going to be close.

The first part of the race Beauvoir was p1 but he pitted too many times when the rain started.

 

[ErnstJ]

I did it with the Porsche 911 RSR. Started on RM with Fuel on 3. And was in 3rd place when i pitted for the first time Second stint also on RM till it started raining. Went to Full Wets and took the lead after that because the AI pitted too many times. With around 10 min left i went to RS and victory.

Not that hard but still a lot of fun.

 

[Bojador]

Finally nailed this one but I’m a bit disappointed that the only reason I won was due to the AI making silly mistakes changing tires. It balanced out because I did 2 extra stops. One stop where I pressed X to upshift and it registered that I didn’t want to change tires and another to change for wet after choosing IM because I had to pit just before it started raining because I was out of fuel. It’s a cool race.

All endurance races so far have been pretty fun and challenging.

 

[Nowhere_Man]

I've tried for the last 4-5 hours. I've tried a variety of combinations, but nothing has worked. My Lead AI has been picture perfect the entire race every single time. I've tried on Hard, Easy, Middle. Nothing. In the rain they are glued to the track. I've made it into second, but I'm still 30+ seconds back from lead. No clue. Very frustrating.

I'll give it a few more goes in a little while.

 

[Talon16]

Going to try this one this week. Probably running the Jag but the Porsche has piqued my interest just due to its efficiency on fuel*. Will probably just end up running the Jag as it's my favorite Gr3 car.

Thing is, if I don't win it there is little motivation to go back and try again. So long as you get P5 or better, you get the silver reward. Meh, we'll see...

*I assume it is, don't have it in GT7 but it was very good in GT-Sp

 

[wowbaggerBR]

I feel like each of these new mission races deserves its own thread, I don't think it's going to be hugely easy to get first place, having just tried this one.

Here is what not to do - one stop on RH in the Huracan using fuel mix 6.

Fuel mix 6 made the fuel last for just over 30 mins, so on that basis, one stop would work. The hard tyres had little wear, and I was way off the pace of the fastest AIs.

The weather switched to wet at 30 mins, so it would be viable to do the first stop at 30 mins, probably onto IM tyres there, and not stop again. However, that may not be fast enough.

Because the race is BOP, you can't adjust brake balance, so the Huracan was wearing the rears more than the fronts. It didn't cause a huge problem, but a car with more weight to the front might be better. AWD would be nice, but isn't an option.

What seem like possible strats to try next, after the RH one stop disaster:

15 mins RS, pit
15 mins RS, pit
15 mins IM, pit
15 mins RS (or maybe 20 mins, 10 mins for these last two stints, hard to say as I had parked the car up so wasn't getting correct wetness display until I started driving again)

30 mins RM, pit
30 mins IM

Obviously adjusting the fuel mix to make it last either 15 or 30 mins.

Note that as the track dries out later in the race, it visually shows the opposite to reality! The racing line appears wet, but is dry, and away from the racing line appears dry but is wet. If you're on R tyres rather than IM, you need to stick to the bit of the track that looks wet!

Went blind on this one and won. Found it to be very easy.

Started with mediums and fuel mix at 4. Went like this up until lap 4~5 when I was around 7th and losing time to the leader. Then I though "hell, there's nothing on the radar in a 100km radius, won't rain, I should really get on with it". Dropped mixture to 1 and started to gain on the leader. They'll stop fairly soon and I had two laps more fuel after the leader got to the pits, exactly when the scripted bull**** rain starts to fall. Got to the 1st place that way and gained quite a gap.

Got to the pits a couple of laps after the lead AI car, 100% fuel and a set of intermediates. You'll suffer for some two laps, when the track gets really wet and the tyres will be overwhelmed. But after that, the AI will stupidly stop almost once every two laps to jump to the proper tyres and will start to dry fairly quickly, so you'll have again quite an advantage. For this stint I also went with full power and no regard whatsoever to save fuel.

Needed to do a second stop with about 10 minutes remaining. Just got a set of medium slicks and fuel enough to do 5 laps. Won fairly easy, lapping everyone bar the second place guy, which finished about 40 seconds behind: could be waaaay more, I ran out of talent on multiple occasions in the last few laps hitting wet patches and curbs with slicks. My difficulty was set to hard, which seems to make these missions easier.

 

[GTvon]

I did this with 3 pits rs, wet, rs.
I don't remember the car I used but it's this one.

 

[Talon16]

I did this with 3 pits rs, wet, rs.
I don't remember the car I used but it's this one.View attachment 1136646

That's the Jag. It's my favorite Gr3.

 

[Talon16]

So I went for this race last night and won it. Was pretty fun. Made some mistakes but so did the AI.

Used my Jag Gr3 car. Started on RH tires which I think was a mistake, in hindsight should've started on RMs. Reason being, even minor fuel savings (1 on the straights and 3 on the infield spots) I had to pit for fuel and the tires were still basically all white. So I pit and figure I'll throw RMs on while I am in there.

Second stint it started getting dark and light green showed up on the radar, so I fuel mixed 1 and drove like gas and tires didn't matter. Eventually pitted and all I could see on the radar was light green so I got inters. As soon as I pulled out dark blue shows up. "Mistake" #2. Awesome. At this point the Merc was ~50 second ahead because he hadn't pitted yet.

He went a couple more laps with the bar in the inter zone and pitted. At this point I figure he's going full wets and I am in trouble since the bar is up in the third tier and I'm on inters. He comes out of the pits ~15 seconds ahead but for whatever reason is really struggling. I catch him on that pit exit straight, fly by, and put 50 seconds on him by the end of that lap. Now I'm in P1.

He gets passed by the Acura and that 50 second gap stays pretty consistent for a few laps, then the Acura starts gaining because I am struggling with the inters in the third tier of grip. Even had an off and into the gravel but got back on the track. Rain started clearing up and the track was in tier two again. Kept on the interns until there was a nice, dry line and even a few more laps to ensure I'd only need one more stop for fuel.

AI pits, then I pit for RMs with about 11 mins left. Plenty of gas and the delta is ~30 seconds. At that point it was just be consistent, no offs and bring her home. Eventually the Merc passed the Acura again and the Acura had an off so I lapped it. Merc pitted again before the end (?!?) with a few mins left and I won by almost a minute. I'll take it.

Then, for my troubles I get a four start ticket which netted me the 10 GOLD BARS!!! 1,000,000 credits YES! First time EVER!

 

[Nuschel01]

This one is one of the easiest in my opinion.
I used the Supra on RMs and FM2 for two 10 lap stints, pitted right when the rain started to come down, did a 20min stint on wets and FM6 and changed to RS and FM1 for the rest of the race. If it wasn't for a spin and the AI pit-maneuvering me once I would've made it to 37 laps, but even with those small issues I won with a 1:20 gap to 2nd who pitted 15 seconds before the race ended and finished in the pits

 

[GTvon]

That's the Jag. It's my favorite Gr3.

Sounds familiar, thanks.

 

[Limey77]

With most of these missions it’s best to run a fast first stunt. Either on RH or RM and fuel mix 1.

You should be hot to 4th or 5th - then you can adjust fuel and tyres depending on what your rival does

Portilla tends to put on either the final lap or the penultimate one. So you can be 25 secs behind him with 3/4 laps to go and still beat him.

I usually short shift whenever I’m in traffic and generally save a pit stop that way.

 

[mp7]

Did this one with the Viper again (like Maggiore). it is just so good for the endurance due to the fuel consumption (shifting around 6000-6500rpm to have perfect powerband helps also with the fuel consumption)

Started on RH and fuel setting 1

1. stop when fuel is empty (close to 20 minutes if I remember right). RH and fuel only 80% as I knew the rain will come around half race and I rather stay in box when it's raining :-) Should have put even less fuel in but I wasn't sure
2. stop changing to fully Wet tires and fuel map 6. Can't put the power on the road anyway, TCS also up (you can put the fuel map to 1 again once there is a dry line)
3. stop when the wet tires are gone (there were maybe around 6-8 minutes left); change to RS and around 50% fuel

Was up by over a lap even though I had two major crashes with spinning AI drivers after the rain. it is crazy how the spin around when they change to slicks and touch the wet part of the track. For sure entertaining as long as they do not hit you or suddenly appear sideways in front of you :-)

 

[Talon16]

Did this one with the Viper again (like Maggiore). it is just so good for the endurance due to the fuel consumption (shifting around 6000-6500rpm to have perfect powerband helps also with the fuel consumption)

Started on RH and fuel setting 1

1. stop when fuel is empty (close to 20 minutes if I remember right). RH and fuel only 80% as I knew the rain will come around half race and I rather stay in box when it's raining :-) Should have put even less fuel in but I wasn't sure
2. stop changing to fully Wet tires and fuel map 6. Can't put the power on the road anyway, TCS also up (you can put the fuel map to 1 again once there is a dry line)
3. stop when the wet tires are gone (there were maybe around 6-8 minutes left); change to RS and around 50% fuel

Was up by over a lap even though I had two major crashes with spinning AI drivers after the rain. it is crazy how the spin around when they change to slicks and touch the wet part of the track. For sure entertaining as long as they do not hit you or suddenly appear sideways in front of you :-)

I have to give the Viper another go with your short shifting strat. I was using so much fuel with that thing I'd have to run fuel maps 5 & 6 just to make it to an appropriate lap (1/2 thru the race, 1/3 way thru the race, etc.). With fuel on 5 or 6 you really lose the advantage of that 8.3L V10.

I'm going to give it another try at some point.

 

[unfairlane]

Well, when the rain starts, put on raintires and not intermediats

 

[foxdylan]

Just had my 1st go , gt40 race car .
Tried RM 2x pits ... struck me that FM 1 the other gt40 on the straits blew me away 🤔 hows that work with bop hmmm .
Then the rain came changed to wets .
Rain went changed back to RMs ... all went down hill from there , RMs are really impressive in crazy wet rain .... but on a drying track they wouldn't brake accelerate or turn .
They like it wet or dry not both so probably switched to them to early.

Ended up 6th though because I spun off at the long sweeping turns and was still on the track facing wrong way ... tried to turn but its wet and cambered ... did a donut.... tried again... did a donut ... popped it into 2nd feathered the throttle... did a donut !!!!!!! ARGHGHHHHH YOU STUPID MOTHER... just sat on the brake waited a second for the game to auto put me back on the track... didn't happen because in still on the track , spent the next 15 months flicking through the dash from rain map to traction whacked it on full and finally got turned around .

Auto return to track on a side note cause me more grief than its helped come to thing about it am off to turn that off and give this another crack

 

[Carrera1963]

Thanks for the tips, that was easy…

Used the Beetle
RM/FM3, pit at 15.5 mins
RM/FM2, pit at 30 mins
W/FM6, then FM1 once dry, pit at 49 mins
RM/FM1

 

[meekrab]

Used the RSR on medium tires, pit when the fuel runs out. I came in for Inters right before the rain hit, crawled around carefully through the worst part of the rain after aquaplaning and spinning around five times on the straight between 6 and 7. Then I waited until the dry line was completely dry and the tires were dead before switching back to slicks at about 9 minutes left.

Interesting race, the kerbs stay fully wet even after the track has a complete dry line and will definitely spin you out, so it's effectively like driving on a narrower, more technical track. I think I did a 1:30.0 before the rain, couldn't get under 33:5 after.

 

[brownvim]

I'm struggling in this race, finishing always around 30 seconds off the leader.

What lap times are you guys getting before the rain? i get around 1:35

 

[meekrab]

I'm struggling in this race, finishing always around 30 seconds off the leader.

What lap times are you guys getting before the rain? i get around 1:35

33s with traffic, down to low 30s with a clear track. You might try mediums or softs if you're running the hard tire, you need to pit for fuel at about 15-20 minutes anyway.

 

[brownvim]

I finally did it, fastest lap was 1:32 in the Beetle GR3. I was pretty much getting consistent 1:33 before the rain.

Fuel map 1 all the way apart from the heavy rain where I put it on 6. Pit whenever low on fuel.

RM
RM
W
RM

 

[Bullwinkle]

Coming to this late, so forgive my tardiness. Has the 1.13 update changed the strategy? I’m running the BMW M6 because it’s a torquey beast and can short-shift really well. I’m in P2 by the time the rain starts, switch to wets, and then spin all over and get passed by everyone else who doesn’t seem to need to slow down during the heaviest downpour. I’ve fiddled with TC and it seems to only make me slower while still spinning and, I’ll add, getting pitted by every passerby who thinks I’m going too slow for their magical amphibious rides.

I can be better in the rain, I know, but there aren’t many good ways to practice this. I folded the S license at Spa so I can do it under the worst conditions, but I can’t seem to do it when I have Wet tires, traction control, and the lead. Can anyone help?

 

[nummer0]

S10 isn't on wet road. S10 is a dry run with a narrow margin.
I used TC on wets and slowly released it. AI makes 2 unnecessary pits since the top runners go IM -> W / W -> IM so that's your chance. As long as you're within 45s of them you are winning.