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US to get 2.0 L SKYACTIV-G engine and 1.5 L everywhere else

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But thanks to a tipster, we can now confirm that the 2016 Mazda Miata will be powered by a 2.0 liter SKYACTIV-G engine in the USA and a 1.5 liter engine elsewhere.

Well, here you go. According to Mazda's press kit for the auto show, most global markets will see the 2016 Miata powered by a 1.5 liter engine but, and this is a first in Miata-land, the US market will have the car powered by the familiar 2.0 SKYACTIV-G that we find in the Mazda3, Mazda6, and Mazda CX-5. That appears to be our only engine choice while other markets will have a choice.

While Mazda has chosen to not reveal power specifications at this time, it seems right that we can assume the new Miata will have at least 155 horsepower and 150 pound feet of the torque. If it stays at that power level, that's a decrease of 12 horsepower and an increase of 10 pound feet of torque.

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I'm not sure how I feel about that. I have a feeling that all the markets are going to feel shafted. Some American enthusiasts will want a cheaper, lighter, more fuel efficient Miata, and enthusiasts in other countries might want more power and perhaps more tuning potential.
 
I'd wager, given how sharply the hood line drops in front of the front axle, that the 2.5 would be a bit of a stretch... especially due to pedestrian safety laws.

Amazing they got the engine entirely (from the cutaway pics) behind the front axle.


Regarding choices... I read that as "other markets will get the 1.5 as standard and the 2.0 as an option."

Well, at least that's how it's been in the past. Lucky us, being a left-hand drive country, our allocation comes from the lots destined for America. :D
 
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I'm not sure how I feel about that. I have a feeling that all the markets are going to feel shafted. Some American enthusiasts will want a cheaper, lighter, more fuel efficient Miata, and enthusiasts in other countries might want more power and perhaps more tuning potential.
Someone in the comments on autoblog said that the US only gets the 2.0L, but everyone else gets both. I'm wondering if there was a misunderstanding of sorts, as Mazda hasn't made an official announcement yet. The info we are getting is from someone who read a brochure at the Paris auto show.
 
The rest of the world gets both engines with the current gen, 1.8L and 2.0L. I'm expecting that to continue with the ND.
 
Man, I was totally hoping that we'd see the 1.5L here in the US. An even cheaper MX-5 would let them cash in on us poor, broke college students who want a fun roadster, but still have enough for a new car, and want to keep our Jalop cred.

Lets just hope they offer it in brown, k?
 
Someone in the comments on autoblog said that the US only gets the 2.0L, but everyone else gets both. I'm wondering if there was a misunderstanding of sorts, as Mazda hasn't made an official announcement yet. The info we are getting is from someone who read a brochure at the Paris auto show.
That certainly makes more sense given the current engine options in different countries. Still, it's a shame they won't sell the 1.5 in the US. Would they really lose money if they did that?
 
Man, I was totally hoping that we'd see the 1.5L here in the US. An even cheaper MX-5 would let them cash in on us poor, broke college students who want a fun roadster, but still have enough for a new car, and want to keep our Jalop cred.

Lets just hope they offer it in brown, k?
If the 1.5L came here, I think it's more likely that it would cost as much as the current 2.0L sport and 2.0L would cost a premium.
Mazda usually has a lot of incentives on the mx-5 as it is. 3k-4.5k was the norm before the 2015 cars hit the lots.
Not sure if jalop remark was serious. I only go there to find out what I should like.
 
"We haven't announced any other powertrain information yet. All in good time," Mazda Australia spokesman, Steve Maciver, told Drive at the Paris show.The confirmation of the 1.5-litre engine variant does lend more weight to Mazda's plan to re-price the MX-5 with a sub $40k sticker, which it hopes will make the car more attractive to younger enthusiasts again."I think [value] is an on going proposition with all of our cars, and that doesn't change just because it's an MX-5," added Mazda Australia's marketing manager, Alastair Doak."It will be a combination [of price and the car itself that] will open up a new market for it. We've done some research and there are a lot of people who aren't aware of MX-5 because we haven't done much with it for a few years."So there is a big opportunity for us to start talking about it again."

And when a Mustang in the US can be had for $25k, this bad boy needs to be sub $30kAUD.
 
As long as the mx-5 is exclusively a roadster, younger buyers will tend to stay away. Kids these days are too scared to be so "exposed" in their cars.
As for it being cheaper in AUS, that was one of the things I read about a few months back.


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Quoting a pair who attended Mazda's hard top focus group earlier today:

"If you thought the NC PRHT looked different, then the ND looks really different. As to liking it, I'm of two minds. I liked it a lot. But I have to say the soft top in person looks really good, too. With the two no longer being quite the same, the choice on style alone may convince a lot of die hard rag toppers to switch, and vice versa."

As long as it's not a goofy bubble like the current car, I can't wait.


"Back from the same design review mentioned. Same NDA. IMHO its the ugliest thing I've ever seen. I sincerely hope it was just a test of one, very poorly thought out, possibility. :eek:"

What?
 
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The PRHT will pretty much be the coupe. Also an optional hard top lile the fastback Spoon S2000 version.

As long as the mx-5 is exclusively a roadster, younger buyers will tend to stay away. Kids these days are too scared to be so "exposed" in their cars.
As for it being cheaper in AUS, that was one of the things I read about a few months back.


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Quoting a pair who attended Mazda's hard top focus group earlier today:

"If you thought the NC PRHT looked different, then the ND looks really different. As to liking it, I'm of two minds. I liked it a lot. But I have to say the soft top in person looks really good, too. With the two no longer being quite the same, the choice on style alone may convince a lot of die hard rag toppers to switch, and vice versa."

As long as it's not a goofy bubble like the current car, I can't wait.


"Back from the same design review mentioned. Same NDA. IMHO its the ugliest thing I've ever seen. I sincerely hope it was just a test of one, very poorly thought out, possibility. :eek:"

What?

this is my meaning. Mazdas practicality in making small hatchbacks, would either make the MX-5 coupe look like an Sa22 RX7 with a glass bubble or a Jaguar XK look alike. but, i think the PRHT will most likely be labled the coupe. That or the optional hard top for the soft top version. Of course I dont know what Mazda are thinking. Its just what I'm thinking for costs sake.
Sure, companies have made new coupes by designing the convertible version into the equation. Shouldn't be difficult for MAzda to construct. is the coupe going to cost more than the drop top? its usually the other way around. I cant wait to see what comes of each model.
 
Hard top focus group? Why is this not plastered all over the internet?

Edit: found it. Was a retractable hard top focus group, which is definitely not a coupe IMO.
 
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Hard top focus group? Why is this not plastered all over the internet?

Edit: found it. Was a retractable hard top focus group, which is definitely not a coupe IMO.
I never said coupe. Sorry for the misunderstanding.




this is my meaning. Mazdas practicality in making small hatchbacks, would either make the MX-5 coupe look like an Sa22 RX7 with a glass bubble or a Jaguar XK look alike. but, i think the PRHT will most likely be labled the coupe. That or the optional hard top for the soft top version. Of course I dont know what Mazda are thinking. Its just what I'm thinking for costs sake.
Sure, companies have made new coupes by designing the convertible version into the equation. Shouldn't be difficult for MAzda to construct. is the coupe going to cost more than the drop top? its usually the other way around. I cant wait to see what comes of each model.

It has been marketed as a "roadster coupe" throughout the NC lifetime in many places, if not all, except the US.
 
what?



I just came back from automotive survey featuring 2 ND miatas, one with soft top right hand drive like the one we saw in Monterey. One with targa/power retractable hardtop concept. They are being comparing against Audi TT, BMW Z4, Toyota FRS and Mini copper convertible.

The final number for miata is 155hp with 148ft/lbs and 2300lbs for soft top and 2400lbs for retractable hardtop concept. Retractable hard top / targa has panorama roof like the SLK.

The interior of the new ND feel smaller than my current NC. The door is higher or the seat is lower than current NC. Six speed manual is standard with keyless start stop. Navigation is on the Japanese model but doesn't know if American model have the navigation option. The navigation display is the Same as the new Mazda 3.

Soft top starting price in 30,495 and retractable hardtop/targa is 32,985


I'm hoping that's GT trim pricing.
We can forget the coupe for at least the first 2-3 years.
 
Can I ask who wrote the stuff in the quite? Because it's appalling to read; they're definitely not a journalist.
 
http://forum.miata.net/vb/showthread.php?p=7161901#post7161901
Just a forum member on that board, could be made up and posted by anyone.
So far there are 3 people that attended yesterday's focus group. They all signed NDAs but one of them doesn't seem to care.
Another member has confirmed the numbers posted above.
It was a focus group so they could've just thrown out numbers they had in mind to gauge their reaction, but who knows. Though the numbers do fall in line with what mazda has been saying.
 
Why would they have a focus group for a retractable hard top? When they want to save weight, they don't even have a powered soft top.





The new ND compared the the NA.

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@RocZX Great pic comparison, the more I see of the new ND the more forgiving of it I am.

But in a direct comparison the original shines so brightly, even that white one in LHD, looks better from every angle, I even prefer its smaller wheels, the only thing I'd transfer would be the ND's smoothed hips, and since that NA's wheels seem so small, maybe it could sit a tiny bit lower (but not slammed, or anything close to slammed).
 
The NA and ND look like they're from completely different companies (which I suppose is somewhat true). Apart from being small 2 seat roadsters, they seem to share very little external DNA.
 
Why would they have a focus group for a retractable hard top? When they want to save weight, they don't even have a powered soft top.

The hard top sold great with the NC so there's no way they'll get rid of it.
Their mistake will be not having it available for at least the first year.
 
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