Leaderboards is what was originally used to disprove that sort of claim.
What is this sourced from?
VG has repeatedly been criticized on this forum as not the most reliable source of sales info. For one, that page doesn't give any actual units besides FH3 & FM6, the rest are all N/A. If you click each title, they report a number in the corner, but under sales tab, everything is under construction....
If the cap fits. Lazy and/or dishonest, because so much of what they promised for FM7 prior to release was never delivered upon. Turn 10 and Dan Greenawalt come across as used car salesmen. I'm amazed at the praise heaped on them since the last update which made a few minor changes, but still left many of the fundamental problems unaddressed. And some of the changes actually made the game worse, like the previously not, but now hard to see dirty lap icon, or the absolutely stupid distance indicators over players' cars. Oh yeah, gaps are still measured in feet rather than seconds. This is so utterly stupid it's hard to imagine anyone signed off on it, and yet they did.
Next gran turismo game i Belive will come out late 2020 or sometime 2021. Forza has release 2 motorsport games each time a gran turismo game comes out. But i rather Wait more to get a good game than get 2 half good games. I think its better it there is one motorsport game within 4 years that would make the game so Much better. Forza motorsport 7 had has some serious issues. And its still dosent deliver in some areas
I get some of your points, but what does this even matter for?
GT sold well with these features. It also sold well missing a good bit of things from the past games too. So I'm not really sure that's the perfect example. It took longer to make less, and it sure is quality over quantity this time when comparing it to itself, but that's a bit overboard.
It shows that the team is slow on their feet. They knew from the start the lootboxes were a problem and it took them ages to do anything about it. Personally I didn't care for them either way, but the point is an easy UI change took a lot of effort, which is expected for a small team or an Indy dev, but not a AAA dev with years of experience.
But that’s the point I’m getting at - what exactly was the problem? There wasn’t one, other than the people that were just absolutely misinformed about the whole situation.
If you look at the credits for any Forza game, it's easy to see that the in-house team is very small. And then you see all the things that were made by outsourcing studios: cars, tracks, music, UI, sound, testing, programming, etc. Almost every element is done from the outside, T10 just stitches those things together, this is also the reason why all Forza games feel like they were made by different people, things that worked in the previous game (UI, progression, car sounds) get replaced and reworked but the result is not always better, old bugs and engine quirks carry over for 15 years, and the games feel overly focus tested rather than something created from passion like GT or Assetto.
I did some digging around back when FM3/FM4 were big, and I found some of the companies that they sourced their vehicles from, and some of the models were aging from the early 2000s.
So what exactly was the problem with the loot boxes? Because all that has nothing to do with the question I’ve asked multiple times.
The conversation never shifted. The same question has been asked 3 times now. The only thing that keeps shifting is the avoiding the answer, that you even seem to be doing.
