The Political Satire/Meme Thread

[Scaff]

This is disgusting.

I quite agree, Trumps actions are.

You guys know we have a constitution, right?

And? So did Germany in the '30s.

"The constitution technically remained in effect throughout the Nazi era from 1933 to 1945."

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Weimar_Constitution

 

[Chrunch Houston]

I quite agree, Trumps actions are.

 

[Rallywagon]

I cant say that response is at all unexpected, and given Peewee's penchant for infantile behavior, the meme is quite spot on and an appropriate characterization of Trump supporters like yourself.

 

[Scaff]

Quality argument.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Quality argument.

And you consider this to be a quality argument?

This is disgusting.

I quite agree, Trumps actions are.

You agree with me? You are about as good at putting words in my mouth as Schiff was at putting them in Trump's

 

[ScottPuss20]

 

[Scaff]

And you consider this to be a quality argument?

I presented an argument, you didn't, so that doesn't really work now does it.

You agree with me? You are about as good at putting words in my mouth as Schiff was at putting them in Trump's

Schiff paraphrased, something trump does (he also outright lies about what he and others have said).

However if you want a more direct comparison, the period 1933 to 1936 saw Hitler elected into power and immediately use and abuse the German constitution to consolidate his power, enable his base (via mass rallies) and remove protections from minorities and refer the to those in the press who disagreed with him as the enemy of the state.

Note at this point no ghettos had been established, no death camps, no invasions had occurred, however the seeds for all of that were being laid.

As such its a perfectly valid comparison to make.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Hitler had big rallies.
Trump has big rallies.
Trump is like Hitler.

As such its a perfectly valid comparison to make.

Why don't you get back to me when the ghettos and death camps get up and running. In the meantime comparing Trump to Hitler is disgusting and stupid.

 

[Danoff]

This is disgusting. You guys know we have a constitution, right?

Stupid question, yes he does. And even if he didn't, he is still bound by it.

Trump just instructed his people in the executive to disregard a congressional investigation, and ultimately committed (at minimum) 2 separately impeachable acts, and the Senate refused to hear evidence for it, agreed that he did it, and refused to carry out the constitutional remedy for that action.

Are you listening to yourself?

 

[Sander 001]

Hitler had big rallies.
Trump has big rallies.
Trump is like Hitler.

Why don't you get back to me when the ghettos and death camps get up and running. In the meantime comparing Trump to Hitler is disgusting and stupid.

Hey a moment ago your goalposts were "we have a [c]onstitution" and now you moved them to death camps and ghettos.

So now rather than be appalled by violations of the Constitution, you shrug your shoulders, let it slide and have to move your goalposts all the way to mass human extermination.

This is the perfect microcosm of how normalization of evil takes place.

 

[huskeR32]

Posts like yours are why Fox News and Rush have so much power over them.

They wouldn't continue listening to the message if they didn't buy into it. Noticing it doesn't make me responsible for it.

It'd be pretty ironic if the people claiming to belong to the "party of personal responsibility" blamed others for their own media choices.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Hey a moment ago your goalposts were "we have a [c]onstitution" and now you moved them to death camps and ghettos.

So now rather than be appalled by violations of the Constitution, you shrug your shoulders, let it slide and have to move your goalposts all the way to mass human extermination.

This is the perfect microcosm of how normalization of evil takes place.

This "violation of the Constitution" was upheld by the Supreme Court.

I did not bring up death camps and ghettos, that was @Scaff.

 

[TexRex]

Stupid question, yes he does. And even if he didn't, he is still bound by it.

Yeah, no...see, as important as it is, the Constitution is just a document. It can't actually tell when it's being defied, and even if it could, it can't actually do anything about it. That's where Congress comes in. A president that Congress fails to hold accountable for defying the Constitution is very much not bound by the Constitution.

This is the situation that we are in now, and you've decided that you're okay with it solely because you approve of the reason for defying the Constitution and you like the guy defying it.

I did not bring up death camps and ghettos, that was @Scaff.

Do you...do you not understand what is meant by "moving the goalposts"?

I mean...it's okay if you don't--I didn't until I did--but you probably shouldn't respond to it with what amounts to "no u".

You originally placed the goalposts at "Trump isn't like Hitler because he's bound by the Constitution (except he isn't)." In doing so, you decided the comparison couldn't be made without meeting that requirement. It was then pointed out to you that Hitler was bound by a constitution (spoiler alert: he wasn't) prior to the implementation of ghettos and death camps and ghettos. You subsequently decided that the first requirement wasn't sufficient and arbitrarily decided that the comparison can't be made until Trump implements ghettos and death camps...thereby "moving the goalposts".

 

[Chrunch Houston]

You originally placed the goalposts at "Trump isn't like Hitler because he's bound by the Constitution (except he isn't)."

You seem to believe that Trump is just running roughshod over the Constitution, I don't. Nearly every thing he does is scrutinized by the courts.

I still stand by what I said, no goal posts were moved .

I just think if you are going to compare Trump to Hitler, you need a little more to compare than just crowd size.

 

[ScottPuss20]

Yeah, no...see, as important as it is, the Constitution is just a document. It can't actually tell when it's being defied, and even if it could, it can't actually do anything about it. That's where Congress comes in. A president that Congress fails to hold accountable for defying the Constitution is very much not bound by the Constitution.

This is the situation that we are in now, and you've decided that you're okay with it solely because you approve of the reason for defying the Constitution and you like the guy defying it.

Yeah, the constitution is just a bunch of papers. That in itself can't bound anybody, or hold them to account, but those responsible with the task of upholding it can. Whether that's done correctly is another story.

 

[Scaff]

Hitler had big rallies.
Trump has big rallies.
Trump is like Hitler.

Good job I didn't limit my comparison to that singular point then.

Why don't you get back to me when the ghettos and death camps get up and running. In the meantime comparing Trump to Hitler is disgusting and stupid.

So you're happy to ignore Trump's abuses until we get to a point of murder?

This "violation of the Constitution" was upheld by the Supreme Court.

So as long as the Supreme Court votes for something you are happy for it to become law?

What if a future vote repeals or limits the right to bear arms?

I did not bring up death camps and ghettos, that was @Scaff.

I brought them up to specifically exclude they from the comparison, as such you're being deliberately misleading.

You seem to believe that Trump is just running roughshod over the Constitution, I don't. Nearly every thing he does is scrutinized by the courts.

So was Hilters erosion of the German Constitution, so that's a bit of a self own.

I still stand by what I said, no goal posts were moved .

Oh they have been, you moved them from 'we have a constitution' to 'he's not committed mass murder yet'.

I just think if you are going to compare Trump to Hitler, you need a little more to compare than just crowd size.

Good job I did then, and then you added to it. I've a few more if you like as well.

 

[Dennisch]

 

[Scaff]

Hands are too big....

 

[Dennisch]

 

[TexRex]

I still stand by what I said, no goal posts were moved .

You have that right normal, but it doesn't make you right normal.

This is disgusting. You guys know we have a constitution, right?

Why don't you get back to me when the ghettos and death camps get up and running.

See? Goalposts moved. You...you get that what you wrote can still be read, right normal?

Yeah, the constitution is just a bunch of papers. That in itself can't bound anybody, or hold them to account, but those responsible with the task of upholding it can. Whether that's done correctly is another story.

Totally. And that's why it's disconcerting that the GOP--who, at present, are in a position to shoot down any attempt to hold the president to account--have very nearly unanimously rallied against attempts to do so. They're even rallying against the sole party agenda defector. Where do they draw the line? Do they draw a line at all?

 

[Sander 001]

 

[ScottPuss20]

Totally. And that's why it's disconcerting that the GOP--who, at present, are in a position to shoot down any attempt to hold the president to account--have very nearly unanimously rallied against attempts to do so. They're even rallying against the sole party agenda defector. Where do they draw the line? Do they draw a line at all?

You can be held to account for your actions, but it's all baloney if the prosecution can't be made. In this case, Trump has not been prosecuted as he's been acquitted. So is that a failing of the system or the political party? Or both?

 

[Joey D]

People getting upset that someone is comparing our authoritarian president who has many comparisons to 1930's Germany to Hitler? I did not-see that coming.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

People getting upset that someone is comparing our authoritarian president who has many comparisons to 1930's Germany to Hitler? I did not-see that coming.

Denigrating and demonizing Trump supporters by comparing them to Nazis, is well, quite Nazi-esque. Much more Nazi-esque supporting the President and cheering at a rally.

But the irony seems to be lost by some people around here.

 

[Joey D]

Denigrating and demonizing Trump supporters by comparing them to Nazis, is well, quite Nazi-esque. Much more Nazi-esque supporting the President and cheering at a rally.

But the irony seems to be lost by some people around here.

I don't care about Trump's rallies. It's just a bunch of mindless drones being force fed what they want to hear. Almost every political rally is like that. However, the amount of tax money being spent on it is a little appalling, but I'd say the same thing about any president.

I'm more concerned about Trump being authoritarian with a healthy dose of nationalism. Also, silencing those who disagree with him is a red flag. All of those things are rather Nazi-like and similar to how Hitler acted before committing mass genocide and trying to conquer Europe.

I don't see Trump committing genocide nor starting a land war with Russia in the winter. But there's way more to Nazism than just wanting to exterminate an ethnic group. Trump and Hitler do have some striking similarities when you look at the first few years in power. And I know you say he's bound by the Constitution but Trump clearly ignores it.

I worry it's going to get worse too since Congress is spineless and refuses to do their job since all they care about is lobbyists and money. There's no longer checks and balances and that is exactly how authoritarian dictators seize power. I don't want an authoritarian government anymore than I want a socialist one. Basically I want to government to leave me the hell alone and let me live my life and keep the money I earn.

 

[Danoff]

I'm more concerned about Trump being authoritarian with a healthy dose of nationalism. Also, silencing those who disagree with him is a red flag. All of those things are rather Nazi-like and similar to how Hitler acted before committing mass genocide and trying to conquer Europe.

But he's a republican. He's on @Chrunch Houston's team! It's ok if rules get broken and people get silenced when your team is on the right side of it.

 

[Chrunch Houston]

Basically I want to government to leave me the hell alone and let me live my life and keep the money I earn.

This is what Trump is doing. He has cut your taxes and is getting rid of stupid regulations. I hope to one day buy a showerhead that delivers more than 2.5 gallons per minute.

Everything Trump does is heavily scrutinized. I wouldn't worry about him going full dictator.

And as for silencing people? Who? Hell, even John Bolton has a book coming out soon. He rags on the press, but my god, they have been ragging on him since he came down the escalator.

 

[Scaff]

Denigrating and demonizing Trump supporters by comparing them to Nazis, is well, quite Nazi-esque. Much more Nazi-esque supporting the President and cheering at a rally.

But the irony seems to be lost by some people around here.

Once again, more than just rallies have been covered, but it seems to be the only point you think you can defend, so you only focus on that one.

And as for silencing people? Who? Hell, even John Bolton has a book coming out soon. He rags on the press, but my god, they have been ragging on him since he came down the escalator.

Of course Trump hasn't tried to stop that at all, oh wait.

https://thehill.com/homenews/admini...se-seeks-to-block-publication-of-boltons-book

However that's not the key point, he did stop Bolton, and any other witnesses appearing in the impeachment trial!

He also attempted, and in part succeeded in doing the same for the impeachment investigation.

That's rather clearly silencing people.

As for tax breaks, I don't see many major corporations or the 1% posting in here.

 

[Sander 001]

 

[Danoff]

A parking ticket is just a fine. If Epstein had only gotten a fine, I think you'd be less than pleased.