The Purest Drifting Experience Part 7: Beyond Competition

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GODfreyGT5
Well you better remove me, Sean and Cerebus fast! XD

I drive IRL, but being 18 and unpaid I am limited to such an extent that GT5 and attending motorsport events are the closest I can get to what I aspire to and dream of doing in real life.

I'm not sure how serious you were trying to be with this comment.
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Twitch wasn't being serious, DERP
 
I'm glad u can D-Max. Most foreigners can speak better english than us here. That's a whole diff topic. Then again my reference to college classes was aimed at a lack of understanding what you are reading. Not u in particular. Or in the case of dice1998, understanding what you are not reading. He/she openly admits to not reading what I've typed, but then proceeds to give meaningless advice. I love freedom of speech here. Every1 loves to be heard.lol anyway. I've killed enough time here. Onto playing my game. And dice, I don't use "people who don't drive irl" to mean "people who aren't as good as me" because I'm nowhere near the best. I'm just saying people who do drive irl tend to have better track manners and atleast drive with sense when playing this game. Ghostz has done a great job of analyzing drifting for what it is in this post. And what it is, is a fun way to get around corners and if done properly looks nice. That gets lost however when the overly aggressive teams and the "manual transmission only snobs" get in the way of people having fun in this virtual scene. In my drift noob eyes anyway. Again I'll say it, not all teams are horrible, nor are their members the worst people u'll meet on a track. But let's face it. The leaders of the teams are usually decent people. Its the members who have a "super new drift tune" chip on their shoulder (sidenote: lmao anytime I hear drift tune, probably because I don't get all indepth with my suspension and u'll see high camber on some of my cars because it flatout looks nice), those are the ones to avoid.
 
This is going at Camry's last couple of posts...I'm not going to quote those wall-o-texts though.

First off, I never said that you said anything about NEMESIS. Rather, you made a few general statements about the entire drift community that I felt were unnecessary.

Next, in regards to your comments about OHQ. As I said before, that type of attitude is not necessary around here. If you have a problem with someone, deal with it in PMs. I'm not necessarily defending the actions of those OHQ members you have a problem with...I would be making this same statement irregardless of who you called a d-bag, and here's why. You recently posted in our Night Slide thread, saying you were going to try to make it to the next one. Well guess what, members of OHQ regularly drop by the NS, along with members from pretty much every drift team on GTP.

You are absolutely more than welcome to join the NS, but know that it is a drama free zone. I was just trying to let you know that petty name calling is a bad look for you, and will make us (along with all other GTP drifters) less likely to want to drift with you. Also know that deliberately spinning someone out, no matter what kind of contact they made with you, will get you booted from our rooms very quick.


I'm sorry, but your comments about real life drivers are ludicrous. First you were talking about people who drift in GT5 but don't drift in real life (which is crazy in itself, as the vast majority of GT5 drifters don't drift IRL, just as most GT5 racers don't race IRL. Would you look down on people who play Madden, but don't play football? Would you look down on people who play BF3 but don't kill people IRL?). Then you stared talking about just driving in general, and it seemed as if you were saying that people who don't drive period IRL can't play GT5. I'd be willing to bet that there are kids out there right now that could both drive and drift circles around you in GT5...given the proper equipment and funding, some of those same kids (sans drivers licenses) would woop you on a real track as well.


Lastly, I'm not sure why you're bringing up English classes and talking about grammar. So far, most of your longer post have been deplorable. They aren't anywhere close university level English...seems more like grade 8 or 9. If you have actually gone to university, and that's the English you learned, I suggest you march down to that university's financial office and demand they give your tuition back, cause you got ripped off son.

That's all I have to say on the subject...I'm being a bit of a hypocrite by not sending this to you in a PM, but I wanted others to see this. I'm not trying to attack you personally (well, maybe slightly, since you decided to try to insult my intelligence with your English comments). I'm basically trying to say "check yourself before you wreck yourself" (cause a 🤬 attitude is bad for your health :sly:). Like I said, you are more than welcome to drop by our lobbies, but cool it on the name calling.


Now, this is not directed at Camry, but rather the whole theme of this thread. I totally agree with Ant's comments, where he said that those who seem to look down on the team aspect of the drift scene tend to be those on the outside looking in (not saying all solo drifters are this way...I've got love for lots of solo guys, they know who they are :) ). The majority of people on my friends list are people from other GTP teams (Redsuns, MLD, WSG, Burst, Blackout, D-max, Drop5, Liquid, OHQ, Prodigy...the list goes on and on). Sure, we compete against each other from time to time, and yes, there are disputes between teams (as well as internal disputes), but the vast majority of the time, we all just like to hang out and have fun.

I can't speak for other teams, and Marc and Gam already touched on some of what NEMESIS is about, so I won't go into detail - all I will say is it's a bad look for people outside of a team to make general statements about the purpose or inner workings of a specific team, or just teams in general.


Edit: Lol CG, I was not being serious about only playing GT5 with RL racecar drivers. And I don't actually kill bunnies while playin BF3...or do I?
 
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Camry, I'm going to say this with the utmost possible politeness:

- Proper structure is your friend (i.e. paragraphs) because I'm not reading the chunks of text you've posted. It hurts my eyes.

- Stop using textspeak. It's annoying and is against the AUP.

- Hurling insults at people here won't do you any good.

- Do not tell people to take English classes largely because of points 1 and 2.

- Use the edit button in the future to avoid multi-posting.

That's about all I can think of right now, but re-read the AUP and consider mending your attitude because I can guarantee that if you continue down the path you're headed in eventually you'll come to see not-so-friendly interaction from a member of the staff.
 
DriftEmotion... Stablished recently by KYOKI. I bealive, is what best represents drifting. just as KDF, But with your own style.. your own feel.. To drift by the feel.
 
Smh, again twitch u are trying to put words in my mouth. I never compared people in this game to real life drifters. I always compared to people who drive in real life period, not just drift. And again all the side people coming in assuming I'm hurling insults can't read properly it seems. U know what guys. Ur all right. And I'm just here insulting everyone.....smh. Reading is fundamental. See u at night slide drama free. I've basically been repeating myself this entire thread but everyone who responds says I'm saying something different. Lmao. L8r all. Report me to mods and ban me if u think I really care. I'll continue having fun with whoever wants to have fun.
 
Camry3sgte
Smh, again twitch u are trying to put words in my mouth. I never compared people in this game to real life drifters. I always compared to people who drive in real life period, not just drift. And again all the side people coming in assuming I'm hurling insults can't read properly it seems. U know what guys. Ur all right. And I'm just here insulting everyone.....smh. Reading is fundamental. See u at night slide drama free. I've basically been repeating myself this entire thread but everyone who responds says I'm saying something different. Lmao. L8r all. Report me to mods and ban me if u think I really care. I'll continue having fun with whoever wants to have fun.
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You will not use “textspeak” (“r”, “u”, “plz”, etc.) in your messages. Decent grammar is expected at all times, including proper usage of capital letters.
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...Just asking to be banned.. Literally...
 
You missed the point completely man, Just take a look at your first post in this thread i would rather not quote it. If you read your first post here you would get what twitch is saying, just don't openly bash people or teams here is all we are trying to say.

This is not psn where you can feel free to bash people/teams, it is a forum and that kind of stuff will not help you around here we are just trying to warn you, as you are new here. 👍
 
As ghostz said and as I told the mod who just warned me. Most people here don't have the capacity it seems to read and understand what it is they have read so I didn't feel like it should even matter how I structured a paragraph or spelled a word. A video game forum run by grammar nazi's is hilarious to me. Anyway as I told the mod I'm done. Back on topic. Purest drift experience: beyond competitions...
 
Camry3sgte
As ghostz said and as I told the mod who just warned me. Most people here don't have the capacity it seems to read and understand what it is they have read so I didn't feel like it should even matter how I structured a paragraph or spelled a word. A video game forum run by grammar nazi's is hilarious to me. Anyway as I told the mod I'm done. Back on topic. Purest drift experience: beyond competitions...
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Bringing your grievances with the staff, namely myself, out into the open will draw you the wrong kind of attention - namely mine. If you wish to continue this in the brash and uncivilized way you're carrying about now I'll have absolutely no problem axing your account privileges.

Now, you can stop being aggressive and you'll likely never have to hear from again in any capacity and this whole transgression can be laid to rest here and now. But should you continue with the "I don't have to play by the rules" attitude, then you're free to leave.
 
Camry3sgte
As ghostz said and as I told the mod who just warned me. Most people here don't have the capacity it seems to read and understand what it is they have read so I didn't feel like it should even matter how I structured a paragraph or spelled a word.
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Oh it matters.


You agreed to these rules
A video game forum run by grammar nazi's is hilarious to me. Anyway as I told the mod I'm done. Back on topic. Purest drift experience: beyond competitions...
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So you made a post to say you're going back on topic. :lol:
 
Cool post and all, but most of that was sorta like philosophy on drifting tainted with the OP's opinion in a paragraph every now and then and yeah.

Sleepa20v
Such an extensive, compelling write-up, tainted with a bad attitude, the majority structure has convinced me that you are an amazing driver, yet there are numerous indicators that you are an amateur with no idea what drifting is about.
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This is how I feel too after reading that haha.
 
I think this guy knows exactly what hes talking about for the most part. Everyone keeps saying that he doesn't know what drifting is about, but you guys fail to realize he isn't talking about your definition of drifting. He carefully states his own definition of the perfect drift and begins to talk about it. He's not trying to convince you that you're drifting wrong and need to learn from him, he's just looking at differently.

I think the entirety of this journal like entry on drifting is great. You really did a good job explaining what you were talking about in every segment. I think I took a couple useful things away from you, so thanks man. Hopefully I'll get to drift with you some time.
 
To be honest ghost z gang...... is an harsh term to use as far as drift teams even though gangs and teams have the same objectives and goals in my opinion which is getting better at what they do and what they want to do. I liked the talk the on threads but this purest drifting experience its related to much as a theory. Yes your theory is well put together don't get me wrong but you really can't define a pure drifting experience on gt5 or any game because its a simulator. The designers of games try their best to mimic the real laws of car physics and stuff like that but thats the only thing they can do so we consumers can find ways to have fun in their world they created for us. The right definition of a correct drifting experience goes completly out of the window because people play the game to have fun yes making as realistic as possible but we have found our own styles and own ways to make drifting fun. Some of us may not think it suits us the way someone drifts but thats the whole point of a "game" try things that you find fun. To me the whole purest drifting experince is to have fun, learn, meet people, finding ways to improve your skill, helping others to improve their, and so on. Therefore others may find their defintion of fun different and thats ok. (As long as someoneone does not try to ruin my drifting experince in anyway.) Thats all I have to say and I'm in no way trying to bash or go against your theory I find it quite helpful and a bit more guiding as well.


Edit: (Just for clarrification reasons.) I love the GTP drifting community drama here and there but they all know how to have fun in thier own way and thats what I like to see people enjoy themselves.
 
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A little late, but..

Camry3sgte
...Most people here don't have the capacity it seems to read and understand what it is they have read so I didn't feel like it should even matter how I structured a paragraph or spelled a word.
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Wow, where to start? Your points dive off into tangents at an exponential rate as well as the misunderstandings that came along with it.

1)Let's first analyze where you misunderstood what D-max said. IMO his point was "teams" make lounges for a reason and its so they can get ppl together that already know the policies they follow. For osakahq's policy it may be the case they don't allow auto's and for some other team it may be drivetrain limited. But, you just accused him because you didn't "understand" (e.g. "capacity... to read and understand...") what he was trying to get across. Well I guess you clearly didn't because:

"I think it's just kids trying to make pointless rules and finding a bs reason to nitpick so they can feel knowledgeable about something."

2)Moving along, your condescending remarks about those that don't drive IRL:

"Once I started realizing that overr half these drift teams probably have never driven irl, I stopped caring ..."

"I've never said anything negative about nemesis. Just ohq and people who don't drive irl."

"I guess u don't drive irl or if you do, you didn't have the sense to realize I wasn't bashing all teams."

"I'm just saying people who do drive irl tend to have better track manners and atleast drive with sense when playing this game."

From all that I gathered from those 3 posts you seem to have attempted to displace your argument and altered it in such a way that you were discussing about track manners when no one mentioned anything about your track manners.

This is where i don't understand you, and this is my attempt to convey to everyone what you were effectively saying in without the other incessant points that don't pertain to the argument:
"I use to care what those guys thought when they told me not to drive auto. What a stupid rule, they just made it to feel more intellectual than I, but since they probably don't drive IRL I don't care what they say, as their comments aren't valid if that's the case. And since it's probable they don't drive IRL they don't have the ability to comprehend my point i'm trying to get at. What I'm trying to say is those that drive IRL have better track manners."

This is what I read and gathered, and if didn't make sense to me, it likely didn't make any logical sense to anyone reading your posts in chronological order. I guess you can assign blame to the one reading it or the one's communicating it. But, in the real world when you grow up, to really communicate effectively you should ensure that the person understands what you're trying to say.

3) Ad hominem - the old english go to school you can't comprehend blabla argument.

I don't even need to quote, because this is how you ultimately try to make your point. The thing is people don't understand you, therefore all the points you've made are not even clear. You think you've delivered your message clearly? No, and hint it's not even the spelling or the acronyms you use. It's your inability to deliver your message that people can understand it. No amount of spelling corrections will help with what you're argument contains. Moreso you invite hostility due to your assumptions of others intentions regarding their responses towards you.

If you find people aren't understanding you then make your posts shorter and to the point, if not well just keep on doing what you're doing and assume that people don't understand you because they have the comprehension level of a 5 year old.
 
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htsue
A little late, but..

Wow, where to start? Your points dive off into tangents at an exponential rate as well as the misunderstandings that came along with it.
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I've got to agree with the whole post you put up there.

What Twitch said about about driving in real life, even though he was joking, I wouldn't, because track manners are really far-fetched online. But this has nothing to do with real life skills, because people with decent skills in real life make the same mistakes even. (Some of them) ^^

Last but not least: Do NOT think every team is like OHQ, that would be like saying every white person is part of the KKK, which makes no sense. We at Burst, and some of the other better teams really want to make drifting something special, something you enjoy with the team, and nothing else.
 
Gonales
I've got to agree with the whole post you put up there.

What Twitch said about about driving in real life, even though he was joking, I wouldn't, because track manners are really far-fetched online. But this has nothing to do with real life skills, because people with decent skills in real life make the same mistakes even. (Some of them) ^^

Last but not least: Do NOT think every team is like OHQ, that would be like saying every white person is part of the KKK, which makes no sense. We at Burst, and some of the other better teams really want to make drifting something special, something you enjoy with the team, and nothing else.
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I agree every team is unique with their own standards
 
Gonales
I've got to agree with the whole post you put up there.

What Twitch said about about driving in real life, even though he was joking, I wouldn't, because track manners are really far-fetched online. But this has nothing to do with real life skills, because people with decent skills in real life make the same mistakes even. (Some of them) ^^
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+1

Have to agree with this. I think in general, people's behavior and on-track manners in open lobbies comes more from people's maturity level (not necessarily governed by age), and people's ability to realize how their actions effect those aroun them. Track manners basically come down to common courtesy, and being aware of your surroundings. I think real life drivin experience plays a very small roll in this...I'm sure we all know people who drive, but act like morons in any kind of online lobby, not just GT5.
 
Bloody hell, just read that. Hats off to you! Hopefully you will make us, and the community better drifters! :-)
 

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