The Space Shuttle Columbia......

I woke up this morning and flipped on NPR. It's never encouraging to hear "people at NASA are ashen-faced...." I hope that they're OK, but it seems highly unlikely seeing as they've been out of contact for over an hour now. That, and streaks of debris have been seen in the sky over Central Texas. I hope we find out what happened soon.

Pray for the families.

EDIT: NASA is telling people to avoid debris due to toxic propellants. I hoped I would never see this again....
 
I wished that I would never have this happen in my life.I pray for those on board and their families. Take a moment in silence everyone and remember those forgotten. Not just the crew of the shuttle, but past crews too. Rmember that they were pioneers. Doing a job that no one had to do, but were in pursuit of answers that they have searched for their whole lives. take a moment in silence to remember all those that have left us in the past yeare, and pray with me.
 
Heres what MSNBC wrote:

SPACE CENTER, Houston, Feb. 1 — The space shuttle Columbia exploded over Dallas on Saturday after NASA lost communication with the vessel several minutes before it’s expected landing time, NBC Dallas affiliate KXAS reported. NASA, while not saying the shuttle had exploded, broken up or crashed, warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous.

NASA has ordered flight controllers to pull out emergency procedures and ordered them to retain all their records.
Columbia was aiming for a touch down at 9:16 a.m.
A loud explosion was heard over Dallas at around the same time, NBC News’ Jim Cummins reported.
It was at an altitude of 200,700 feet, traveling at 12,500 mph when mission control lost contact. There was no further communication and no further tracking data.
Reporters at the landing strip were ordered away 7 minutes after the scheduled touchdown with still no sign of the shuttle.
Inside Mission Control, flight controllers hovered in front of their computers, staring at the screens. The wives, husbands and children of the astronauts who had been waiting at the landing strip were gathered together by NASA and taken to separate place.
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Columbia was at an altitude of 200,700 feet over north-central Texas at a 9 a.m., traveling at 12,500 mph when mission control lost contact and tracking data.
NASA, while not saying the shuttle had exploded, broken up or crashed, warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous.
The Pentagon and Joint Chiefs of Staff are convening a “domestic event conference” for any possible response to the Columbia incident, NBC’s Jim Miklaszewski reported.
There were reports of debris seen falling.
In 42 years of human space flight, NASA has never lost a space crew during landing or the ride back to orbit. In 1986, space shuttle Challenger exploded shortly after liftoff.
Security had been tight for the 16-day scientific research mission that included the first Israeli astronaut.
Ilan Ramon, a colonel in Israel’s air force and former fighter pilot, became the first man from his country to fly in space, and his presence resulted in an increase in security, not only for Columbia’s Jan. 16 launch, but also for its landing. Space agency officials feared his presence might make the shuttle more of a terrorist target.
On launch day, a piece of insulating foam on the external fuel tank came off during liftoff and was believed to have struck the left wing of the shuttle.
Leroy Cain, the lead flight director in Mission Control, had assured reporters Friday that engineers had concluded that any damage to the wing was considered minor and posed no safety hazard.

---MSNBC
 
I highly doubt this was linked to terrorism, but it is possible. The Shuttle was 200,000 feet up. For a plane to be that high to shoot it down is highly unlikely
 
let see there was a Israeli on there so he most likely was a suicide bomber and blew him self up or it could have been sabotaged
 
Originally posted by RVDNuT374
If this is linked to terrorism, we have reason to drop a H-bomb on Iraq.

Are you serious?

I'm still digesting all this.

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Originally posted by miata13B
I highly doubt this was linked to terrorism, but it is possible.

No it isn't.

I distinctly remember Challenger, even though I was merely eleven at the time. I remember it taking off and watching it explode. This doesn't seem as bad - for one thing, there wasn't International coverage of this meaning the public didn't have to suffer as much. Still certainly horrible for the astronauts and their families. :(

Strangely, the first Israeli astronaut ever was on that flight - but that doesn't mean terrorism's involved. And it isn't. Unless the bastard terrorists found a way to get up to the International Space Station - undetected, of course - and sabotage it several days later! BASTARDS! :rolleyes:
 
http://news.bbc.co.uk/2/hi/americas/2716369.stm

The American space agency Nasa says it has lost contact with the space shuttle Columbia about 15 minutes before it was due to land at the Kennedy space centre.
There were seven crew members aboard the shuttle - six Americans and the first Israeli in space.
Contact was lost over Texas

A Nasa spokesman confirmed they had had reports that the space shuttle had broken up during its descent, and that debris had fallen about 100 miles (160 km) south of Dallas, in the state of Texas.

Relatives of the astronauts who were awaiting the shuttle's arrival were taken away from mission control.

President Bush has been briefed about the incident and is monitoring the situation, a White House official said.

He is expected to make a statement shortly.

The White House has said there is no immediate evidence that terrorism was involved.

Click here for continuing coverage from BBC News 24



In Israel, the office of Prime Minister Ariel Sharon issued a statement saying "the government and people of Israel are praying for the safety of the astronauts on board space shuttle Columbia."

Columbia, which was due to land in Florida at 0916 (1416GMT) was returning from a 16-day mission orbiting the Earth and had just begun its re-entry procedure when contact was lost.

If you find debris, please do not touch it, and if you have photos or videos that you think will be helpful, please contact your local police authorities



Nasa website


Television pictures showed a vapour trail from the craft as it flew over Dallas.

It then appeared to disintegrate into several separate vapour trails, and witnesses in the area said they heard loud noises.

One witness in the Dallas area, John Ferolito, told the BBC his house shook and windows rattled as he heard a loud boom.


Click here for more eyewitness details
Nasa has declared an emergency, and search and rescue teams have been mobilised.


'Hazardous'

According to Nasa, the shuttle was about 200,000 feet up and travelling at 12,500 mph (20,000 kph) when contact was lost at about 0900 local time.

SHUTTLE CREW
Commander Rick Husband, US

Pilot William McCool, US

Kalpana Chawla, US

Laurel Clark, US

Ilan Ramon, Israel

David Brown, US

Michael Anderson, US


Although the space agency did not say what had happened to the shuttle, it warned that any debris found in the area should be avoided and could be hazardous.

In 42 years of human space flight, Nasa has never lost a space crew during landing.

In 1986, the space shuttle Challenger exploded shortly after lift-off with the loss of all seven crew on board.

Nasa spokesman John Ira Petty said that, having lost communication, he did not see how the shuttle could land.

He told the BBC: "It is controlled by computer until the last bit of the flight and is essentially a glider.

'Catastrophic failure'

"It doesn't have the capability to go around like a commercial airplane might."

Mr Petty said everyone at Nasa was very concerned about Columbia - Nasa's oldest shuttle, which first flew in 1981.

He added: "We are concerned about our crew members and their families but it is a situation where we have very little information."

Mr Petty said he could not think of a more difficult terrorist target than a shuttle, although he admitted security - particularly before launch - had been tighter than usual.

Former chief historian for Nasa, Roger Launius told BBC News that so far it looked like this was a "catastrophic failure."

When I first heard anything about this, it was on CNN and I wasn't listening to what was being said. I heard "Columbia", but I didn't really pay attention to the sentences because I was trying to get my sound balanced out on my stereo. Once I read it on the BBC I thought, "My God!"

I'm thinking that, assuming the space shuttle exploded(because people were talking about hearing a loud *Boom!* and their houses shaking), that it was due to the fact that the space shuttle was 23 years old. Dude, not one of our Armed forces branches uses any vehicle over 10 years old, so why would we risk using a shuttle that's 23 years old for science?

Do I think it's the israeli's fault?
Of course not

Do I think it could have been avoided?
Yes, by using modern equipment, not something that predates a quarter of the US population.
 
I'm suspecting mechanical failure.

First off, Columbia is from 1981, in the space program that's like driving a Model T today. Reentry superheats the shuttle, and communication is usually lost for a minute or 2 due to the electronic field produced by the heat and atmosphere. I think that while it was reentering, something couldn't withstand the heat and caused the catostrophic explosion.

As for terrorism, I highly doubt it. Sure it's always a possibility, but I'm going with mechanical failure.
 
Has anyone been watching this coverage? IT is on CNN, MSNBC, Fox NEws and probably all the news stations. The Space Shuttle Columbia has decintegrated over East-Central Texas around 9 AM.

There were 7 crew members aboard this flight. 6 Americans and 1 Isralie. This is a very sad time for many people. Let's all make sure to think about the friends and family of these 7 who have died on the Space Shuttle Columbia.
 
Originally posted by km
let see there was a Israeli on there so he most likely was a suicide bomber and blew him self up or it could have been sabotaged

I'm going to step out character here for a moment -

km, SHUT IT. I was willing to give you the benefit of the doubt, but it appears the stupidity of your posts knows no bounds. You too, Josh.
 
Okay, guys calm down.
First off I was unlucky enough to be under the Challenger when it blew up. I won a Coast Gaurd medal, as did all of my shipmates for our role in the recovery of many peices, and our sonar department locating the cabin of that shuttle.
I can tell you with near complete assurance that all aboard are likely dead.
As for the ceramic tiles. If Columbia is the same as Challenger those tiles are nothing more than 2 inch thick styrofoam with a special covering.
This whole event is bringing about some very bad memories of the last shuttle accident.
As has been said, it's a time for prayer. Not a time to be sniping each other.
 
Just because it is old doesnt mean it isnt safe. After each mission and before each mission they go through a very precise procedure. They always repair thiings and all those things like that. Terrorism is very unlikely. No other plane can fly that high and not very many missiles can either. It could even be human error. My prayers are out to the families and the Astronauts...
 
Originally posted by km
let see there was a Israeli on there so he most likely was a suicide bomber and blew him self up or it could have been sabotaged

I can't believe you actually said that.
 
Could any conspiracy theorists at least keep their mouths shut for a day, starting now?
 
BTW, those tiles arent styrofoam with a special covering. Its a special alloy which can withstand extreme heat and is very quickly self cooled. After being heated to a few thousand degrees it can be touched by the naked hand in only a few seconds. Just to show the rapid cooling effect of it...
 
Originally posted by RVDNuT374
If this is linked to terrorism, we have reason to drop a H-bomb on Iraq.

WHAT!? Even in the HIGHLY unlikely event that this was terrorism, how do you automatically know that Iraq was involved? This is just another media-fed, outrageous statement that pisses me off.
 
Originally posted by Frustrated Palm
BTW, those tiles arent styrofoam with a special covering. Its a special alloy which can withstand extreme heat and is very quickly self cooled. After being heated to a few thousand degrees it can be touched by the naked hand in only a few seconds. Just to show the rapid cooling effect of it...

I've handled the "tiles". Sat many hours watch over them as we recovered them. It looked and felt like styrofoam to me. The covering was "foriegn" But the inner layers were indeed a styrofoam-like substance.
 
Originally posted by km
AND WHAT DO U KNOW WHAT HAPPENED MR. I`MSOSMART IF NOT U CAN SHUT IT:mad: :mad: :mad:

You are making completely uninformed assumptions. Not everyone who comes from the Middle East is a terrorist. There is no need to post silly and baseless comments here.

I will say no more on the subject.
 
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