The Space Shuttle Columbia......

Just drop it, 7 people are dead or likely dead. All you guys can do is argue over this matter of terrorism or not. Frankly, I just look at it like your unemotional self absorbed dumb#@@es. I am sorry if your offended about that comment, but it is better to be offended then dead!
 
Put simply, Columbia should not have lifted off. Taken out of comission would have been better.

And the fact the insulating foam was covering a fuel tank didn't do the shuttle any favours.

Foam last line of defence against re-entry heat and the shuttle. Foam falls off. Fuel tank blows under extreme heat. It couldn't be simpler.

I digress. Condolences everybody and leave the Israeli conspiracy theories until we actually figure everything out. NASAs in for one hell of a rough time.
 
Yeah, this is what happened with the Challenger too. They saw a piece that was questionable, and dismissed it. I'd think that they wouldn't take any unnecessary chances like that...
 
I've just gotten up early to play golf and heard the news - awful, brings back memories of the Challenger disaster.
 
Uhhm, I was just watching and they said something like mach-15 or 16, people said they heard multiple sonic booms... that is probably the last thing you should be thinking about anyways.

For some reason, accidents like these (space shuttle explosion, aiplane crash, etc.) effect me a lot more than other things. When I woke up and saw this, I just got this feeling in the pit of my stomach and felt really, really bad. Those people were going to space to do things for all of man kind, and to see them die in a firey explosion is just awful. Thiings like this shouldn't happen.:(

OA
 
I just turned on the news. NASA has confirmed that the Columbia has broken up and that there are most likely no survivors. They also showed a video taken from Waco of a fireball streaking across the sky and breaking up. The President is coming on now...

So sad....
 
With all the crazy posts on this thread, I think it would be a good idea if we rate could another member's sanity, so that we may block their insane outbursts in the future.
 
Originally posted by Rossell
Put simply, Columbia should not have lifted off. Taken out of comission would have been better.

And the fact the insulating foam was covering a fuel tank didn't do the shuttle any favours.

Foam last line of defence against re-entry heat and the shuttle. Foam falls off. Fuel tank blows under extreme heat. It couldn't be simpler.

I digress. Condolences everybody and leave the Israeli conspiracy theories until we actually figure everything out. NASAs in for one hell of a rough time.


Very well said.

I'm shocked at the amount of stupidity, and lack of maturity some members are showing. I don't want to restart the arguments, but thinking before posting is usually a good thing to do.


I'm deeply saddened by these news. My prayers are with the victims families, and hopefully the NASA will consider a throughout reworking of the shuttles.
 
Originally posted by risingson77
Didn't they see a faulty piece in pre-flight inspection?

No. Remember when it originally lifted off, a small piece of styrofoam came off? They're saying that's a possible cause.
 
It just goes to show how fragile life truely is, and it shows how brave those astronauts are. Perhaps we should have an hour of silence on the boards or something...
 
I don't believe it. I woke up to an unusually weird sunny Saturday morning and my sister told me. I thought she was BSing me and told her to grow up and be serious. I changed the channel to FOX and I saw the long streak scorching the shattered sky. It's not a good way to wake up in the morning. I slept through 9/11, so I might as well sleep through this one.

Besides at launch, there is NO escape for the astronauts.

At least, those brave astronauts made it home.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero

Besides at launch, there is NO escape for the astronauts.

Yes there is, if they know something's wrong. After the Challenger, NASA contracted somebody to build an escape route for the crew if anything goes wrong.
 
Originally posted by Viper Zero
There is no "ejection" system. On the launch pad, the crew can escape.
Dude, I'm telling you. I saw an interview today with the man who designed and put into production on all manned spacecraft the ejection system. After Challenger, they realised they needed this.
 
My statement was wrong, there ARE 2 escape routes during re-entry. The first system is where the main door opens and a pole is extended out and the astronauts bail out. This system in only good at 30,000 feet. The other system is similar to the SR-71 Blackbird where the cockpit detaches from the space plane and is ejected. This one is only good at 100,000 feet. Unfortunately, Colombia was destroyed at 200,000 feet. :(

Sorry if I mislead anyone.
http://www.batnet.com/mfwright/shuttlejump.html
 
Originally posted by Rossell
I think you need more praise then me for helping recover Challenger 17 years ago.
Thanx,
At the time I just wanted to get home. We had been out on a "torpex" (torpedo exercise) and were tired.
When the radioman came into the lounge and told us that the shuttle had blown up we didn't believe him.
That was the start of about the worst working day of my life.
 
Man - I turned on the news this morning (about 5 my time) and saw Dan Rather fooling around with a model of the shuttle, muttering something about the left wing.

It was on the Australian new channel on Foxtel, so I thought it a bit odd - eventually the coffee kicked in and I started to think 'oh - not again' (I can clearly remember waking to the news of the Challenger accident).

I've got a lot of issues of how the US conducts its business in the world, but I've been a huge fan of the space program since I was 4-5. I was gutted with Challenger, and I feel the same this time - just an awful, awful thing. Just seeing the looks on the faces of the NASA staff is heart-wrenching - I feel for the families and everyone associated with the mission.
 
Originally posted by vat_man
Man - I turned on the news this morning (about 5 my time) and saw Dan Rather fooling around with a model of the shuttle, muttering something about the left wing.

It was on the Australian new channel on Foxtel, so I thought it a bit odd - eventually the coffee kicked in and I started to think 'oh - not again' (I can clearly remember waking to the news of the Challenger accident).

I've got a lot of issues of how the US conducts its business in the world, but I've been a huge fan of the space program since I was 4-5. I was gutted with Challenger, and I feel the same this time - just an awful, awful thing. Just seeing the looks on the faces of the NASA staff is heart-wrenching - I feel for the families and everyone associated with the mission.

Certainly. Well put.
 
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