The stupid Vtech... ugh

[Picc84]

Ok, I KNOW theres been a topic, but i serously cant find it, and i KNOW its out there, so i figured it does not hurt THAT bad to just post again...

I've been working all day to here that vtech on a civic... WHERE IS THAT SOUND? or even just the kick you feel?!

 

[Rotary Junkie]

Ehh, it's not pronounced in-game very well, but if you're playing with an EG SIR-II, there IS no V-TEC.

CTR or ITR will have it. No sound change that I've heard, but the power comes on like in real life (torqueless, then a jump. Look at the curve in the settings screen)

 

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the problem is that GT doesnt have much of a sence of speed for anything but fgts/lmp/group c/ a lot hp cars. you also realy need to hear the engine to enhance the feeling you get with vtec powered cars.

i drive a rsx types s. once you hit 5k, things start to happen and combined with the sound of the vtec at full song it feels fast.

unfortinately gt cant provide the things that makes my car feel fast.

 

[AOS-]

to get the full feel of speed and the engine i use a car that has a distinguishable engine soud, like the R92CP and run it down the straight at Sarthe... i love it...

 

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heh, you just proved my point ...

 

[Megasoft Office]

V-TEC is produced relatively properly. VVT-i on Toyota's 2ZZ is modeled relatively fine, too. You probably can't feel it kick in very well because your couch doesn't thrust forwards when the high-lift cams engage.

unfortinately gt cant provide the things that makes my car feel fast.

Drive your RSX on a wide race track and you'll complain about real-life (or your car) not feeling fast enough, as well.

I think the game portrays the sense of speed fine. It's the visual portrayal of landmarks and the game's relatively narrow field of view; maybe switching to widescreen mode on a supported television set or monitor will help since your field of view is, in theory, widened. If the game offered an (even very mild) fish-eye lens option, you'll think you're playing Burnout with the observed speed; but in reality, you're still moving at the exact same speed in the game and that it is only your perception that was modified. Need for Speed, Forza Motorsport, Burnout, Test Drive; these are all franchises that use wider fields of view relative to Gran Turismo, hence their greater perception of movement.

When I mention landmarks, I mean that you don't have grass, overpasses, common roadsigns, buildings, and vegetation near the road when driving. Instead, we get a lot wide-open race tracks with very wide track widths and few of anything dotting the terrain next to, or on the track itself. Speaking of on the track, there are no lane markings to give you the better sensation of forward movement. In a sense, you are velocitized from the start of the game since there are not enough passing objects to produce the sensation of speed.

But a game that reproduces real-life road conditions accurately would use a lot of development resources for enhancing the environment. Or you can do it the cheap way and just widen your field of view. But then anything at the center of your screen becomes smaller and perceivably farther, making it more difficult to see what is coming at you from ahead.

And if you're really good, you'll notice that the Gran Turismo 5 (including Prologue) footage uses a much wider field of view than all of the past Gran Turismo installments--you see much farther to either side, possibly owing to the fact that you can now glance at the mirrors. But this is remedied by the reality that many more customers are owners of widescreen high-definition television sets, which helps counteract the loss of perception of distant objects in the middle of your screen.

 

[VTiRoj]

Ehh, it's not pronounced in-game very well, but if you're playing with an EG SIR-II, there IS no V-TEC.

I thought the SIR-II had VTEC, considering it has a B16A engine which HAS VTEC.

You wont feel the VTEC kick on a VTEC car (VTEC car... LOL) on GT4, unless you put N1 tyres on it and slap a big turbo on it. GT4 doesnt really simulate the kick, but you can see the sudden increase in power at 6,000rpm.


Note to the topic starter: its VTEC not VTECH, VTECH make learning toys for kids

 

[Rotary Junkie]

I thought the SIR-II had VTEC, considering it has a B16A engine which HAS VTEC.

You wont feel the VTEC kick on a VTEC car (VTEC car... LOL) on GT4, unless you put N1 tyres on it and slap a big turbo on it. GT4 doesnt really simulate the kick, but you can see the sudden increase in power at 6,000rpm.


Note to the topic starter: its VTEC not VTECH, VTECH make learning toys for kids

It may very well HAVE VTEC, but the torque curve is dead flat. My Integra Type Rs on the other hand, jump at around 6 grand on the torque curve...

That's the 'jump' you feel when VTEC hits.