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Now i want a tortoise paint job for my 911 :-)
The tortoise and the hare - endurance daily
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Just choose a Mclaren F1 livery from the past few years and people will get the message 
Because tyre wear is nowhere near as critical in GTS as fuel consumption. You don't really need to change the tyres in GTS unless you wreck your tyres with useless driving.
It's way faster to drive 0 stop like a F1-driver (lift and coast, save tyres and fuel mapping) than to drive it like a DTM driver (like you stole the car) with 1 (world record slow) pit-stop.
However, sometimes (e.g. if you are stuck behind someone on high fuel flow) it's better to pit and refuel and then drive with a higher (maximum) fuel flow the rest of the race, than to stay in the dirty air of the driver in front and have too high tyre wear (most of us amateurs will have higher tyre wear when chasing someone).
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- FluffaRaptor
I think it depends on the car tuning. i.e. Does the car get more power in low revs or high revs?
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I will never understand the folks driving their hardest at Bathurst and going in the pit stop at lap 7...sure, you won't stop as early as the others, but you will be running on bad tires for 2 extra laps, in which your adversaries will be gaining on you, and then you will have time pit in anyway.
And if you pit in at lap 5, you will refuel LESS and drive 3 laps much faster than the others who are driving with tires on terrible conditions and refueling more because they drove more and wasted more gas.
Also, I find a FWD car to be much easier to handle busted up tires than a RWD car since understeer is much easier to manage than oversteer on every corner.
The VW Scirocco in particular can really shine on this race if you pit properly, as it can take the uphill bends much faster.
And if you pit in at lap 5, you will refuel LESS and drive 3 laps much faster than the others who are driving with tires on terrible conditions and refueling more because they drove more and wasted more gas.
Also, I find a FWD car to be much easier to handle busted up tires than a RWD car since understeer is much easier to manage than oversteer on every corner.
The VW Scirocco in particular can really shine on this race if you pit properly, as it can take the uphill bends much faster.
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DesertPenguin
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Personally I like RWD for handling tire wear because the races put you on RH but I'm used to running Gr. 4 on SS in our league so when they go down it's just closer to what I'm used to in the first place. I don't think the GT86 will be that good for the long straights though. The Top 10 list is mostly Vantages and M4s which makes sense. I'll have to buy one of those soon
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Driving 10 laps if in the same car, same fuel map and same driving pace takes the same amount of fuel whether pitting at lap 5 or lap 8 does not change the amount of fuel needed to complete the total number of laps over the race distance. If you are pitting later you just need to put in enough fuel to complete the remaining distance.
Many reasons why a person may choose to pit later, just one is being on a clean track with no traffic or race battles to affect their pace or line while the early stoppers are busy fighting each other for position and actually slowing themselves down to the pace the guy with the worn tires is running. Not to mention as the fuel load lightens some cars actually handle better.
Take that into account those extra few seconds less in the pits could be the difference in winning the race and finishing 5th. It is not called race strategy for nothing.
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Love it!
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Re the thread title got my dr back up close to A. Gt86 at panomara, no pitstop playing between map 3 and 2, laughing as your fwd opponents understeer becomes more and more crippling.
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- HuddyBob
That is why you watch the screen on the left to keep track of who has pitted, and the map on the right to see your track position and watch your gaps.
Personally, I hate the over-exaggerated tire/fuel rates. Make a realistic race with proper fuel/tire consumption with the laps required to stretch it out over 3-4 stops, and give us a selection of tires. Otherwise, in these 10 lap'rs, it'll always be the tortoise that wins... duh... give up 2seconds a lap or take a 25+ second pit... on a 10 lap race... the math is easy folks, and, if you enjoy driving around at 20%power and 30% tires I commend you.
PD has basically divided us into 2 groups;
1. those who want to win (no pit).
2. those who want to race (run hard and pit).
Until they open up at least 2 tires options, and stretch the distance out it's just pick whether your want to win or race.
My opinion,
DesertPenguin
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In all honesty they should be timed races because 10 laps at one track is not the same time as 10 laps at any other. First race should be timed at 10 minutes, second at 15, and third at 25. The reason they won't make it longer is because they want to fit two in one hour and that means leaving a small gap.
I did a no pit in Suzuka and it was really fun. My lap times were around 2:06, for the first few laps on fuel map 2, and on the last few laps on fuel map 1 with bad tires. The competition could do 2:02, so with a 25 second pit stop the math says they should catch up to me. But this is Suzuka, where it's hard to pass and mistakes can cost you a lot of time. In the end I ended up 18 seconds ahead.
