The U.S. hates Canada!

[Diego440]

For the record, I am neither American nor Canadian, although I have lived in both countries for extended periods of time. Four years in the States and one in Canadonia.

Quotes from American conservatives regarding Canada:

Can Canada really be considered our 'friend' anymore? As someone whose family comes from Canada, a country I grew up loving as a child, it pains me to ask the question. That said, what other question can be asked when the Canadian government not only willingly allows Islamic terrorists into their country, but does nothing to stop them from entering our nation.

First of all, anybody with any ambition at all, or intelligence, has left Canada and is now living in New York. Second, anybody who sides with Canada internationally in a debate between the U.S. and Canada, say, Belgium, is somebody whose opinion we shouldn't care about in the first place. Third, Canada is a sweet country. It is like your retarded cousin you see at Thanksgiving and sort of pat him on the head. You know, he's nice, but you don't take him seriously. That's Canada

[...] Here's the problem with telling Canada to stop criticizing the United States: It only eggs them on. Canada is essentially a stalker, stalking the United States, right? Canada has little pictures of us in its bedroom, right? Canada spends all of its time thinking about the United States, obsessing over the United States. It's unrequited love between Canada and the United States. We, meanwhile, don't even know Canada's name. We pay no attention at all.

The fact of the matter is -- whether it's your prime minister badmouthing this country over its refusal to sign on to the Kyoto Accord; or whether it's Iraq; or whether its tariffs we slapped on your country because we think your country is cheating on a variety of issues. It's again and again and again. What I'm asking you, whether the Canadian people hate America as much as your politicians seem to?

[C]ould our neighbors to the north soon be our enemies? The U.S. finally losing patience with Canada. After roundly criticizing us over Iraq, Canadian politicians have taken to criticizing us over, well, pretty much everything else... So have the Canadians gotten a little bit too big for their britches?

I'm surprised there was anybody left in Canada to attend the protests. I noticed that most sort of vigorous, ambitious Canadians, at least almost all comedians in Canada, come to the United States in the end. Doesn't that tell you something about the sort of limpid, flaccid nature of Canadian society, that people with ambition come here? What does that tell you about Canada?

[...] Canada's essentially -- essentially a made-in-Taiwan version of the United States.

[...] [A]bsolutely the countries will remain allies and there will always be politicians who see it to their benefit to stomp on Bush dolls. But no, I don't think the average Canadian feels -- the average Canadian is busy dogsledding.

[...] I think if Canada were responsible for its own security -- you would be invaded by Norway if it weren't for the United States.

[...] Canada needs the United States. The United States does not need Canada.

[...] We exploit your [addressing Canadian Member of Parliament Carolyn Parrish] natural resources, that's true. But in the end, Canadians with ambition move to the United States. That has been sort of the trend for decades. It says something not very good about Canada. And I think it makes Canadians feel bad about themselves and I understand that.

[...] Without the U.S., Canada is essentially Honduras, but colder and much less interesting.

Because they speak French... We like the English-speaking Canadians.

[...] They don't even need to have an army, because they are protected, because they're on the same continent with the United States of America. If we were not the United States of America, Canada -- I mean, we're their trading partner. We keep their economy afloat.

[...] There is also something called, when you're allowed to exist on the same continent of the United States of America, protecting you with a nuclear shield around you, you're polite and you support us when we've been attacked on our own soil. They [Canada] violated that protocol.

[...] We could have taken them [Canada] over so easily... [But] all I want is the western portion, the ski areas, the cowboys, and the right-wingers.

[...] Conservatives, as a general matter, take the position that you should not punish your friends and reward your enemies. And Canada has become trouble recently... It's -- I suppose it's always, I might add, the worst Americans who end up going there. The Tories after the Revolutionary War, the Vietnam draft dodgers after Vietnam. And now after this election, you have the blue-state people moving up there.

[...] They [Canada] better hope the United States doesn't roll over one night and crush them. They are lucky we allow them to exist on the same continent.

Canadians should understand that storm clouds are gathering to the south. Humiliating American kids in a hockey rink is simply not acceptable. Thumbing your nose at 127 dead Americans in Iraq by making defiant statements about where Saddam should be extradited is not a wise policy... One more cheap shot, one more unnecessary taunt, one more insult directed at the USA by you or your minions, and I'll give you a very accurate long-range forecast. It's gonna get mighty cold mighty fast west of the St. Lawrence.

I got nothing against the Canadian people but in the last few years you've swung dramatically to the left, and we in America have some questions about that.

[...] There's no question that the Canadian press has become rabidly anti-American. The Toronto Globe and Mail, the CBC and others delight in insulting us. That, of course, is their right... [But] Canada is totally dependent on the USA for its economic well-being. It best remember that in this very serious situation.

Most Canadian physicians who are themselves in need of surgery, for example, scurry across the border to get it done right: the American way. They have found, through experience, that state medical care is too expensive, too slow and inefficient, and, most important, it doesn't provide adequate care for most people

The biggest problems in the world, arguably, could be laid at the feet of the elite. You know, can I give you an example of the elite? Dominique de Villepin, Kofi Annan, Jacques Chirac, the guy that runs Canada, Jean Chretien... Who? [talking to director] What? Okay, Paul... whatever...

Friendly as they generally are, Canadians have always made me uncomfortable. There's something a shade off about them. They remind me of the aliens in sci-fi movies who move about undetected among the human population until they're tripped up by some joke or colloquialism they haven't been programmed to understand

Canada is, quite simply, not a serious country anymore... And that's why a little invasion is precisely what Canada needs. In the past, Canada has responded to real threats with courage and conviction (some say more Canadians went south to enlist for war in Vietnam than Americans went north to dodge it). If the U.S. were to launch a quick raid, blow up some symbolic but unoccupied structure -- Toronto's CN Tower, or an empty hockey stadium -- Canada would rearm overnight

Al Gore and lawsuit tycoon Joel Hyatt today launched their cable television network. And talk about outsourcing: Our friends in Canada - or, as Homer Simpson calls it, 'America Junior' - are supplying the broadcast fodder.

Canada can't help us anyway. They have no military to speak of. And the socialistic system they have there has nearly bankrupted them. So Chretien is history. A new administration is upcoming.

Soviet Canuckistan

Frankly, I'm worried about Canada beginning to look like Mexico as a major supplier of drugs into the United States

For most Americans, Canada is sort of like a case of latent arthritis. We really don't think about it, unless it acts up

Seriously, how are these people even allowed air time?

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[High-Test]

Not all of america, just the overzealous right wing people on Fox do.

Michael Savage is an idiot. So is Ann Coulter. And Pat Buchanan.

I think Canada is a great country. If you wonder where the US went wrong, look at Canada. They did things right. They have government healthcare, a massive surplus, and very little violence.

Instead of bashing our neighbors to the North, we should follow their example.

 

[Swift]

Quotes from American conservatives regarding Canada:

Seriously, how are these people even allowed air time?

Because a lot of what they say is true, though the way they say it is pretty rough.

Not all of america, just the overzealous right wing people on Fox do.

Michael Savage is an idiot. So is Ann Coulter. And Pat Buchanan.

I think Canada is a great country. If you wonder where the US went wrong, look at Canada. They did things right. They have government healthcare, a massive surplus, and very little violence.

Instead of bashing our neighbors to the North, we should follow their example.

Um...yeah.

They have the TAXES to match that government healthcare program. I'll give them that they have a much lower murder rate then the USA.

 

[High-Test]

Oh, I know about the tax part.

Without tax revenue, the government can't really do all the stuff it does. The Republicans want to abolish taxes, and instead have the Chinese cash in their T bills and buy our government.

 

[Swift]

Oh, I know about the tax part.

Without tax revenue, the government can't really do all the stuff it does. The Republicans want to abolish taxes, and instead have the Chinese cash in their T bills and buy our government.

Actually, they want to get rid of some taxes because the government can be run much more effeciently to do the same thing with LESS money.

 

[Dave A]

Can you say that to Tony Blair for me.

 

[dbartucci]

I don't see how a series of quotes dating back 2 - 4 years by some known loud-mouth neo-Con pundits is evidence that the U.S. hates Canada.

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

This is pretty lame. Its basically a bunch of pro-U.S. arrogant idiots looking to point their fingers at an easy target (that many of the U.S. citizens no nothing about) to lay blame for their problems, or to pick fights with.

Blame us for the terrorists? We're not the ones who trained them to fly planes, and then let them take over our commercial planes. Blaming us for their drug problem? Riiiiiiiiight. The amount of pot that crosses our border to the U.S. is nothing compared to the amount of cocaine and other more harmful drugs that come up to Canada from through the U.S.

All I see here are small, unimportant or completely useless facts that are being said to side track the citizens of the U.S. from the more important issues that the U.S. is to blame for. Its pretty funny to see a country that hates us so much having to wear shirts and patches with our flag on it when they travel to the rest of the world.

 

[Kylehnat]

I don't see how a series of quotes dating back 2 - 4 years by some known loud-mouth neo-Con pundits is evidence that the U.S. hates Canada.

Thank you! [/thread]

The amount of pot that crosses our border to the U.S. is nothing compared to the amount of cocaine and other more harmful drugs that come up to Canada from through the U.S.

To be fair, most of that stuff comes from Central and South America. Large-scale drugs are not made in the U.S.; just trafficked.

Its pretty funny to see a country that hates us so much having to wear shirts and patches with our flag on it when they travel to the rest of the world.

This Canada-U.S. "feud" is completely fabricated, so don't get your panties in a bunch. Most Americans like Canada, and vice versa. It's just a shame that retards like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh get to have their idiotic opinions heard by millions of people.

 

[Diego440]

To be fair, most of that stuff comes from Central and South America. Large-scale drugs are not made in the U.S.; just trafficked.

That's quite funny. And I mean that in a harmful way.

I once got an email called "100 reasons to hate the US" or something like that. ONe of the reasons was "Because they always complain about how 3rd world countries' economies depend so much on drugs (growing, mixing, distributing, etc.) when it's them who consume 90% of them"

This Canada-U.S. "feud" is completely fabricated, so don't get your panties in a bunch. Most Americans like Canada, and vice versa. It's just a shame that retards like Bill O'Reilly and Rush Limbaugh get to have their idiotic opinions heard by millions of people.

in all honesty, the fact that people like Rush Limbaugh and Bill O'Reilly get so much air time on the major networks is something that should irk more than one opposer. I remember when I lived in the US that the "I am Canadian" ads were coming on CTV and CBC (I had those channels in college), and many Americans complained about it. In fact, the news programs of those channels even had a couple of reports on the States' reaction to the commercials and how they protested against Molson. HIlarity ensued, but still.

 

[Master_Yoda]

Pfft... **** Canada.

(I manualy put the *'s there)

 

[a6m5]

Savage once claimed that all Japanese people who were put in American internment camp during WWII were spies. This was when somebody brought up the internment camp as a example. It was one of the most ridiculous thing I had ever heard. The guy is a joke. He is, as Brad Pitt in Se7en would say, "effin movie of the week".

 

[YSSMAN]

Canada is a great country, as they are just like America, just without the guns. It has been said that if you (an American) ever get lost in Canada and need to find home, listen for gunfire and head in that direction.

...Why the hate? Well, you've always been the quiet neighbor that politely agrees with the big-guy next door, and the sudden change caught us off guard. We've always been good friends, and the far-right people (even more to the right than I) always play the relationship to be a bit worse than it actually is. Granted, we don't have to love eachother, but we can atleast respect one another.

That said, I don't care much for French Canadians. They come to Michigan quite often on holiday and their attidudes upset me. Of course, they can't help that they are French, but whatever. After they got all weird after the Triumph the Insult Comic Dog stuff a few years back, I pretty much lost all of my respect for those people. For God's sake, its a GD puppet... Get over yourselves, please. Seperatists or not, its a joke.

Not to throw this completely off-topic, but how do other Canadians feel about the folks in Quebec?

 

[Law93]

Canada and the United States have a lot in common. both sides are even

 

[SRV2LOW4ME]

To be fair, most of that stuff comes from Central and South America. Large-scale drugs are not made in the U.S.; just trafficked.

Yes, i'm aware of that. I made a mistake by adding the "from" in my post, it should have read:

The amount of pot that crosses our border to the U.S. is nothing compared to the amount of cocaine and other more harmful drugs that come up to Canada through the U.S.

Sorry about the error.

Not to throw this completely off-topic, but how do other Canadians feel about the folks in Quebec?

We feel the same way about them as you seem too. Although Montreal is a great place to party, the people of Quebec are pretty "snooty". Even at my work we get french truckers that come in to pick up loads, and they are some of the most odd ball people you will ever meet. They will show up 2 days early looking for their loads, and then have the nerve to yell at us when we inform them that its not done yet when its their fault for being early. Its like that in the eastern provinces also. A friend of mine who lived in New Brunswick told me about growing up out there and having to learn french in order to know when they were talking about you. I should add that he was in and out of jail with these people, so that might have had something to do with it. Its not that I don't like them personally, but as a whole they shouldn't represent what Canada, and Canadians, are.

 

[exigeracer]

I'm sure Stephen Harper is doing what he can to satisfy these diehard conservatives 'analysts' in the US. I'm not expecting him to stay in office for a full term.

I live in Quebec, but I'm completely anglophone and not at all french, other than having the knowledge of the language to get by everyday. I do not at all approve of Quebec's sovereign tendencies, but that movement isn't as much of a threat as it used to be. I'm sure I'll be out of province before it becomes something to worry about, if it ever happens.

But as far as people, there is a noticable tension between anglophones and francophones in the youth particularly. It's a rather touchy subject, because the French can complain so much about the English, when their lives are influenced so much by English culture to the point where their language is halfway there to ours.

Looking back at it, it really isn't as much of a problem as it is made out to be. I really have nothing personal against anybody living here. And to be fair, there are also a large portion of American tourists who come through acting like they own the place. I can say that I've met some really interresting and fun people from america up here on vacation, but in all fairness, it goes both ways.

I've experienced living in the United States as well, and it is very difficult to adapt to such a drastically different lifestyle, so I could not answer on where I would prefer to live. I can say that I far prefer the Canadian healthcare and education systems over the US's.

 

[Carl.]

Personnaly, I always thought that Bill O'Reily's microphone would serve a much more noble cause while being used to find the whereabouts of his own G Spot.

But that's just me.

I wish everyone wouldn't lump all the people of a given country/region according to the dozen or so people they've met coming from there. News flash: you can find people being arrogant, obnoxious, rude or in short, assholes everywhere. Unfortunately, these traits are universal.

I was born in Quebec, where Triumph the insult dog went, and I laughed when I saw it. A few people couldn't take a joke, and others were upset because that tv show was subsidised from the federal governement. But of course, these won't complain when they subsidise a movie that makes fun of federalists, the rest of Canada, or Americans (such as our infamous Elvis Gratton, for those who know what it is). Besides that the majority of us just didn't care, so I guess there wasn't much to report in the news that day.

Some people like to stir rivalries from the past, apparently for no reason other than being xenophobic idiots. Hopefully, they will remain a minority.

 

[Diego440]

I went to school in Buffalo, NY which is about 20 minutes away from the Canadian border, so under 21 kids in the college would usually head to St. Catharine's to party. Many "travelled" Americans told me (and I think this is quite true) that Canada (or at least the English-speaking portions) has the best of the U.S. and the best of Europe.

In fact, most Canadians I've met (I've only been to Toronto and surrounding areas) were very European in manner, which was rather odd coming from the States. Strangely enough, border police for entering the US have always been ultra suspicious, even before 9/11. It was especially annoying when you were in a group of about 15 people and you're the only South American, and they were all European.

 

[ledhed]

For the record, I am neither American nor Canadian, although I have lived in both countries for extended periods of time. Four years in the States and one in Canadonia.

Quotes from American conservatives regarding Canada:


Seriously, how are these people even allowed air time?

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So you dredged up a bunch of idiots..I have relatives living near Toronto...I live in the states...we do not know these morons .


Please explain how this blather justifys a thread by this title.

Unless of course you are practicing to be a reporter for star magazine or some other such trash .

 

[Diego440]

ledhed! I was actually looking forward to your reply

Well, the unsaid subtitle to the thread could be: "or at least the right wing neo-con-nazis do"

 

[Duke]

Seriously, how are these people even allowed air time?

But, of course, it's perfectly acceptable for Canadian politicians, media, and citizens to criticize the United States as much as they want, right? Because, after all, we're Americans so by definition we deserve it, right?

 

[Carl.]

But, of course, it's perfectly acceptable for Canadian politicians, media, and citizens to criticize the United States as much as they want, right? Because, after all, we're Americans so by definition we deserve it, right?

Are you talking, for example, about Carolyn Parrish or Françoise Ducros, who were ousted / forced to resign their jobs after what they said or did?

As far as our citizen's opinions, leaving the nutcases alone, most critics are aimed at the Bush administration's international politics, or things such as the soft wood lumber, not towards the US. As always, our Conservative electorate will mostly side with your Republicans, and the same goes with our Liberals / Democrats, despite both of them leaning more on the left from this side of the border. We didn't hear that much bickering when Chrétien and Clinton were in power.

 

[FoolKiller]

But, of course, it's perfectly acceptable for Canadian politicians, media, and citizens to criticize the United States as much as they want, right? Because, after all, we're Americans so by definition we deserve it, right?

As long as you understand that fact.



As far as accusing the US of hating Canada based on the inflamatory comments of "neo-con-nazis" (They are neither neo (new) or Nazis, but oh well) it is ridiculous. First of all, these people are paid to be inflammatory so that people, like Diego, will link them or even listen to them. This brings in even more revenue. Half their audience are people that don't like them but are looking for something new to complain about. My father-in-law and brother-in-law hate Bill O'Reilly but watch him every night and then talk about how they don't understand why he has the ratings that he does.

Secondly, they do address issues that many people find important, such as child abuse cases, immigration, etc. and many times say what people are thinking, even if they use inflammatory language that most of us wouldn't even think of using. I call it the Archie Bunker syndrome. He was meant to be a satire, but a lot of people actually agreed with him because he said what they wouldn't. The pundits on both sides of the aisle have support and ratings because they are saying what their viewers are afraid to say out loud.

In this case, Canada disagreed with America's policies and plenty of peopel disagreed and agreed with them. Those who agreed wouldn't say anything more than, "We don't need them anyway." They listen to the pundits to strengthen their opinions and just as many who disagree watch in order to be able to pull snippets of quotes out to be accusatory.

Oh, and if you think statements of this nature are new then you need to go find an old John Candy movie, Canadian Bacon, where a war nearly breaks out because John Candy says, "This beer sucks," at a Canadian hockey game, starting a riot which just escelates. We've been making jokes at Canadians for years, but it has never been meant as anything more than that, jokes.

In this case pundits used those same jokes as political fodder, nothing more.

 

[Diego440]

But, of course, it's perfectly acceptable for Canadian politicians, media, and citizens to criticize the United States as much as they want, right? Because, after all, we're Americans so by definition we deserve it, right?

Your words, not mine.

I'll agree with you, FoolKiller. The point of this thread is somewhat comedic. There are all kinds of Americans, and it's even funny when some of them refer to Canada (jokingly) as the US's backyard. Fortunately, many Canadians I've met are quite sarcastic (like myself) and take the jokes quite nicely. Even when you ask them if the have running water or the Playboy Channel.

Problem is when the sarcasm and picking on goes the other way, some Americans tend to get very defensive, so they'll take everything as a personal insult to them and their fellow Americans... or some other capital punishment deserving stance.

I've seen Americans on the news mainly say that Canadians do nothing but dogsled everyday and live in igloos. At the same time, the most I've heard a Canadian say about the US is that it's NOT the best part of North America, so that also says a bit more about the nature of the people. Still, I don't know ALL Canadians nor ALL Americans.

 

[Swift]

But, of course, it's perfectly acceptable for Canadian politicians, media, and citizens to criticize the United States as much as they want, right? Because, after all, we're Americans so by definition we deserve it, right?

Good point. Hadn't thought of that.

Diego, would it be possible to get a bunch of canadian quotes about the USA?

 

[Duke]

I've seen Americans on the news mainly say that Canadians do nothing but dogsled everyday and live in igloos. At the same time, the most I've heard a Canadian say about the US is that it's NOT the best part of North America, so that also says a bit more about the nature of the people. Still, I don't know ALL Canadians nor ALL Americans.

That's funny, I've heard plenty of Canadians say that we're greedy, biggoted Imperialists out to steal the world's oil supply.

Never mind the fact that Canadians, per capita, use approximately 30% more energy than Americans do.

 

[Carl.]

Good point. Hadn't thought of that.

Diego, would it be possible to get a bunch of canadian quotes about the USA?

You can find some, but their media coverage is nowhere near that of the likes of Bill O'Reily or their nemesis, such as Olbermann here. Our networks generally won't blatantly take position, such as with Fox / CNN, each bickering about their rival's bias. I don't say they're unbiased, but that's usually much more subtle, and toned down.

Never mind the fact that Canadians, per capita, use approximately 30% more energy than Americans do.

...and in 2002, for example, we also produced 45% more energy than we consumed.

I do think those criticizing the US on environmental issues should look on our side of the border though, we're far from being in a position to give lessons to anyone on that topic.

 

[exigeracer]

I'd like to see those quotes as well, Duke.

Almost all of the anti-US banter I've heard in Canada comes from satire shows, who are payed comedians. The people quoted in post #1 are not comedians but apparently educated politcal analysts who are spitting out ingorant and sometimes racist garbage.

But like manytimes mentioned, the only kind of "hating" going on between the two countries are from ignorant or uneducated.

edit: Carl - want some biased Canadian media? Pick up an issue of the National Post.

 

[Carl.]

edit: Carl - want some biased Canadian media? Pick up an issue of the National Post.

Indeed, but that (or others such as "Le Devoir") doesn't reach as much people as tv networks, and a lot of it revolves around local issues, such as separatism.

 

[FoolKiller]

You can find some, but their media coverage is nowhere near that of the likes of Bill O'Reily or their nemesis, such as Olbermann here. Our networks generally won't blatantly take position, such as with Fox / CNN, each bickering about their rival's bias. I don't say they're unbiased, but that's usually much more subtle, and toned down.

While political pundits that get paid because they are controversial is one thing, and they may have a larger audience but it really looks bad when you have a politician blaming America for problems, such as crime.

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