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again i will edit your post in red......
Now, to answer the comment about correcting both TVB & myself, the fact of the matter is that TVB asked a few of us to help him out and I stepped up to the plate unv412, any problem with that??
thanks for the involvement but you create more confusion when you dont research proper
And considering this is the first thing I've done in OVER 2 MONTHS on GTPlanet....not even attending to my own stuff and stuff I'm supposed to have done in the recent past (boo hoo everyones busy), to get that response from you almost gets a bird response back from me.....telling me to research my stuff....fine, you go and pick all the pictures, go find ALL the specs and pass them to TVB like I have on EACH AND EVERY OCCASION UNTIL THAT POST!! (check my post at #463 for example!). And considering I have told you via PM what I did in the auto journalism sector, you should know that I don't just blah blah whatever comes to mind, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING I BRING TO THIS THREAD!(consistantly proven you dont research it properly)
I was playing nicely until then but you flicked the B-switch on me so here goes:
1. RE: Kingswood. It WAS marketed as an SS...but guess what the standard pack was....the 253ci!! So by putting the 4.2L prefix in, it distinguishes itself from the optional 308ci. so you agree that you got it wrong and its not a Kingswood???? as for the 308 thing there is no such car in existance so it doesnt count then does it!
2. RE: VL Commodore Director. Like the BT1, it was given a different prefix on the VIN plate. I mixed myself up with the 3.0L bit, that was on most other versions, but the stroker got a different prefix aswell.so you agree you got it wrong and its not a LE???? vin plates aside every one can tell you that its called a Director
3. RE: HZ model. I did mix myself up with HX and HZ.....I was reading ahead to your other comment previously about the HX year model in that other post and mixed the two comments up in my thoughts and it came out in post.
ops: You are right, HZ was only sedan.I know i was right wouldnt be the first time lol
4. RE: The SV6 Part A. If it was MY list, I almost would've told them to rack off with that garbage, my old 7M-GE in the Cressy kept up with the Alloytec 190's. But it's not mine, it's TVB's and therefore it's his choice to keep it in there. I only come around to help if there's any disputes. The only V6 Commodore that deserves a place there in the whole list is the XU6, atleast that's supercharged.so you buy into the argument with me instead????
5. RE: The SV6 Part B. You mention about the many mustangs from one year being in the list....what's the MAJOR difference between them all???
Think about it.....your going to offend a lot of mustang poeple but as i said SS's were the Holden hotrod and the other more powerful cars eg your Group a's and GTS's were HSV/ HDT hotrods.....there is a differance therefor I beleive they should be included!
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let you think more.....
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It's because they ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS!! The SS and all the other derivatives of it (R8, Senator, etc.) are ALL BASED ON THE SAME MOTOR for that year!! From [VN] to [VT I], they used the Holden 304, didn't matter on spec for everything that wasn't a GTS, and the GTS got the stroked 304 in the VR GTS and developed it further in the [VS] GTS-R. Same with the LS1 motored [VT II to VY II] models, then the LS2 for the VZ and VE I, and now we have the LS3 6.2L in the VE II.therefor in your reasoning they are all the same and difficult to tell apart (eg VN SS versus VN Group A) NOT
6. RE: Power Levels. It's VERY IMPORTANT that power levels are stated in my opinion because as been shown, the wrong car has been presented to the list compared to the specs that are shown when the wrong specs were presented. This way, there is NO CONFUSION over which model it was specifically, in this case the GROUP 3 rather than the GROUP A version.
7. RE: GTS-R. You CLAIMED that HSV's own website lists it as a 1995. To quote the owl....O RLY??
http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/c...=VS&Model=gtsr
From that link:
Quote:
ABOUT
RELEASED: February 1996
PRODUCTION HISTORY: 85 built. 74 for Australia ’ 9 for New Zealand
The model was discontinued in April 1996
That's from HSV's own site and wikipedia backs it up. So next time, practice what you preach regarding researching your information before you even criticise others work!! i looked at thewrong page of the site (http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/classics.aspx must have been 3 am in the morning when i checked
8. RE: Blueprint. It was NEVER available on SS's (they only had the 5.0L), it was only on GTS-R's and to a lesser extent, GTS 215's (both 5.7L's). AND like the BT1, it was given a seperate prefix but I messed up with the location. From memory I thought it was on the plate, it's actually in the owner's manual or if you weren't sure/didn't have the information, a simple call to HSV would tell you what was fitted by quoting your build number.so because by your own admission because it was written on the owners manual it gets in??? lol...BTW you do know you can blueprint a 5.0 or any engine for that matter....and my mate bought a VS SS brand knew with the optional blueprinting done by HSV .......FACT
9. RE: Mad Max car. I disagree only with the "should have mad max car in title", nothing to do with could you buy one from Ford. Why would you buy an "Interceptor" when Ford had the XB GT and Cobra to buy and play with??
again do you know the interceptor you talk of IS a movie car??? therefor it reqires a designation to that effect.....
10. RE: Falcon ESP. It was standard with the 4.1L in the XD with the 351ci
as an option, for the XE they put the 351 in as the standard motor.
so you agree that you were wrong in what you posted ?
11. RE: Other hi-po Falcons. I DIDN'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT TUNER CARS, unless you quote Tickford as a tuner, so that means the TE50 shouldn't be considered either with that logic. The Moffat cars were tuners, but they were done by the same mob who created the Phase 5 (Phase Autos) so they do have an indirect lineage.(never factory) However, the XR6 with VCT was a FACTORY FORD.(never said otherwise) The XR8, FACTORY FORD. (never said otherwise)Tickford was sub-contracted to do the extra work to the motors and suspension to make it more sporty, all the way back from the EB-ED days until FPV became a reality.(duh)
And the EA Falcon TURBO was guess what....a FACTORY OPTION!! You could go into any dealer, tick that option and voila, you ended up with a TO4 turbo onto your 3.9L motor. Seems like you didn't do your homework on that one unv412.(didnt even comment on this in the first place so can you tell me were i went wrong on something that i never passed comment on???)
you still didnt tell me more on that fabled 5 door hatch torana.....lmao....or the other things you messed up on and blamed the fact that it was a typo or wires crossed ect.........seriously bro
Now, to answer the comment about correcting both TVB & myself, the fact of the matter is that TVB asked a few of us to help him out and I stepped up to the plate unv412, any problem with that??
thanks for the involvement but you create more confusion when you dont research proper
And considering this is the first thing I've done in OVER 2 MONTHS on GTPlanet....not even attending to my own stuff and stuff I'm supposed to have done in the recent past (boo hoo everyones busy), to get that response from you almost gets a bird response back from me.....telling me to research my stuff....fine, you go and pick all the pictures, go find ALL the specs and pass them to TVB like I have on EACH AND EVERY OCCASION UNTIL THAT POST!! (check my post at #463 for example!). And considering I have told you via PM what I did in the auto journalism sector, you should know that I don't just blah blah whatever comes to mind, I RESEARCH EVERYTHING I BRING TO THIS THREAD!(consistantly proven you dont research it properly)
I was playing nicely until then but you flicked the B-switch on me so here goes:
1. RE: Kingswood. It WAS marketed as an SS...but guess what the standard pack was....the 253ci!! So by putting the 4.2L prefix in, it distinguishes itself from the optional 308ci. so you agree that you got it wrong and its not a Kingswood???? as for the 308 thing there is no such car in existance so it doesnt count then does it!
2. RE: VL Commodore Director. Like the BT1, it was given a different prefix on the VIN plate. I mixed myself up with the 3.0L bit, that was on most other versions, but the stroker got a different prefix aswell.so you agree you got it wrong and its not a LE???? vin plates aside every one can tell you that its called a Director
3. RE: HZ model. I did mix myself up with HX and HZ.....I was reading ahead to your other comment previously about the HX year model in that other post and mixed the two comments up in my thoughts and it came out in post.
ops: You are right, HZ was only sedan.I know i was right wouldnt be the first time lol4. RE: The SV6 Part A. If it was MY list, I almost would've told them to rack off with that garbage, my old 7M-GE in the Cressy kept up with the Alloytec 190's. But it's not mine, it's TVB's and therefore it's his choice to keep it in there. I only come around to help if there's any disputes. The only V6 Commodore that deserves a place there in the whole list is the XU6, atleast that's supercharged.so you buy into the argument with me instead????
5. RE: The SV6 Part B. You mention about the many mustangs from one year being in the list....what's the MAJOR difference between them all???
Think about it.....your going to offend a lot of mustang poeple but as i said SS's were the Holden hotrod and the other more powerful cars eg your Group a's and GTS's were HSV/ HDT hotrods.....there is a differance therefor I beleive they should be included!
.....
.....
let you think more.....
.....
It's because they ALL HAVE DIFFERENT MOTORS!! The SS and all the other derivatives of it (R8, Senator, etc.) are ALL BASED ON THE SAME MOTOR for that year!! From [VN] to [VT I], they used the Holden 304, didn't matter on spec for everything that wasn't a GTS, and the GTS got the stroked 304 in the VR GTS and developed it further in the [VS] GTS-R. Same with the LS1 motored [VT II to VY II] models, then the LS2 for the VZ and VE I, and now we have the LS3 6.2L in the VE II.therefor in your reasoning they are all the same and difficult to tell apart (eg VN SS versus VN Group A) NOT
6. RE: Power Levels. It's VERY IMPORTANT that power levels are stated in my opinion because as been shown, the wrong car has been presented to the list compared to the specs that are shown when the wrong specs were presented. This way, there is NO CONFUSION over which model it was specifically, in this case the GROUP 3 rather than the GROUP A version.
7. RE: GTS-R. You CLAIMED that HSV's own website lists it as a 1995. To quote the owl....O RLY??
http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/c...=VS&Model=gtsr
From that link:
Quote:
ABOUT
RELEASED: February 1996
PRODUCTION HISTORY: 85 built. 74 for Australia ’ 9 for New Zealand
The model was discontinued in April 1996
That's from HSV's own site and wikipedia backs it up. So next time, practice what you preach regarding researching your information before you even criticise others work!! i looked at thewrong page of the site (http://www.hsv.com.au/hsv/showroom/classics.aspx must have been 3 am in the morning when i checked
8. RE: Blueprint. It was NEVER available on SS's (they only had the 5.0L), it was only on GTS-R's and to a lesser extent, GTS 215's (both 5.7L's). AND like the BT1, it was given a seperate prefix but I messed up with the location. From memory I thought it was on the plate, it's actually in the owner's manual or if you weren't sure/didn't have the information, a simple call to HSV would tell you what was fitted by quoting your build number.so because by your own admission because it was written on the owners manual it gets in??? lol...BTW you do know you can blueprint a 5.0 or any engine for that matter....and my mate bought a VS SS brand knew with the optional blueprinting done by HSV .......FACT
9. RE: Mad Max car. I disagree only with the "should have mad max car in title", nothing to do with could you buy one from Ford. Why would you buy an "Interceptor" when Ford had the XB GT and Cobra to buy and play with??
again do you know the interceptor you talk of IS a movie car??? therefor it reqires a designation to that effect.....
10. RE: Falcon ESP. It was standard with the 4.1L in the XD with the 351ci
as an option, for the XE they put the 351 in as the standard motor.
so you agree that you were wrong in what you posted ?
11. RE: Other hi-po Falcons. I DIDN'T JUST SPEAK ABOUT TUNER CARS, unless you quote Tickford as a tuner, so that means the TE50 shouldn't be considered either with that logic. The Moffat cars were tuners, but they were done by the same mob who created the Phase 5 (Phase Autos) so they do have an indirect lineage.(never factory) However, the XR6 with VCT was a FACTORY FORD.(never said otherwise) The XR8, FACTORY FORD. (never said otherwise)Tickford was sub-contracted to do the extra work to the motors and suspension to make it more sporty, all the way back from the EB-ED days until FPV became a reality.(duh)
And the EA Falcon TURBO was guess what....a FACTORY OPTION!! You could go into any dealer, tick that option and voila, you ended up with a TO4 turbo onto your 3.9L motor. Seems like you didn't do your homework on that one unv412.(didnt even comment on this in the first place so can you tell me were i went wrong on something that i never passed comment on???)
you still didnt tell me more on that fabled 5 door hatch torana.....lmao....or the other things you messed up on and blamed the fact that it was a typo or wires crossed ect.........seriously bro
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I'll ignore your peon comment there and the smart assed way that it's been portrayed across as because you don't know squat about the situations I've been in.
.....me on the other hand couldnt care less who likes me as I am only interested in the correct and factual representation of the Aussie cars
What about Ken Block's gymkhana car with the ice treads attached? 
Indeed I prefer 130i because the atmospheric engine... I'd love to have that car, would be my choice if I had the money
