The Viper

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:banghead: The viper can be a very frustrating and very good. Its top out hp is 702 I think. Only on certaint tracks can it be a good thing to have such as Rome full circut or the highspeed ring.
There are many times where you get frustrated with it. Now dont get me wrong it is a good car but if had a little better stering it would just as good as the Gtone or the Escodo :viper:
 
Originally posted by nice7
:banghead: The viper can be a very frustrating and very good. Its top out hp is 702 I think. Only on certaint tracks can it be a good thing to have such as Rome full circut or the highspeed ring.
There are many times where you get frustrated with it. Now dont get me wrong it is a good car but if had a little better stering it would just as good as the Gtone or the Escodo :viper:
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Ummm... okay :sleep:
 
i think the dodge viper is an exceptional realistic car with the redicioulse 8.0litre V10 put in at rear wheel drive shows what american cars are all about all power no steer :mad:
 
I disagree, Troll. I love the Oreca Viper and The Taisan Viper. I have no problem steering them. But it's true that the biggest challenge with the Vipers is controlling the torque. It's easy to spin out without a little restraint.

In fact, I like FR cars best in general. The Viper, the Cerbera LM, the Denso Supra, etc. (of course the Cerb is way better due to it's light weight).

They handle best when you keep up high speeds. The slower you're going the more chance there is to spin those rear wheels and loose control; and High speeds maximize the downforce and keep it stuck to the road.
 
i do like the dodge viper especially the team oreca the taisan viper i have yet to get also my favorite drive are the rear wheel drive cars its just the british know how to make cars that handle well and dont need tractor engines for power and speed
tvr cerbera lm
 
Originally posted by troll
i do like the dodge viper especially the team oreca the taisan viper i have yet to get also my favorite drive are the rear wheel drive cars its just the british know how to make cars that handle well and dont need tractor engines for power and speed
tvr cerbera lm
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I have taken the liberty of editing Troll's post.

"I do like the dodge Viper, especially the Team Oreca. The Taisan Viper i have yet to get. My favorite drives are also the rear wheel drive cars. It's just that the British know how to make cars that handle well and don't need tractor engines for power and speed, the TVR Cerbera LM, for example."

But as long as I'm here...
What does it matter how many cylinders a motor has? RX7's are cool and they have that rotary thing. And what about the Speed12? --- Very British. . . excessively big motor. A V10 is only a little bigger than a V8 and even smaller than some V8s.

Practially any car can handle well if you take the time to learn it's nuances. I am even getting the Speed12 to behave somewhat, which at one time I thought was impossible and futile. There are people here who swear by the Elise GT1. I can't stand that car. I suck at driving it. But the car doesn't suck. Some day I may drive it enough to get a feel for it.

The bottom line, in my opinion, is that the Dodge Viper is the Great American Sports Car. And America needs that. Vettes suck, and all the other American performance cars lean more toward the muscle car thing, which is fine, but it's been done. Americans are better known for their "sporty" cars rather than Sports Cars.

Just my two cents...
 

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GTS-R > Taisin
Taisin > GTS
GTS > Oreca
Oreca > Subaru 360. well, it's probably not that good.


i absolutely love my GTS-R. (i should, Burnout and i worked for 2.5 hours for it.) it's got just the right amount of oversteer to be challenging and still remain drivable. it blows all the other tweaked Vipers out of the water. the GTS is a little too touchy for me, though. i prefer to stay withing the ranks of the STP and GTS-R.
 
If you have trouble controlling it, then use manual transmission and take tight turns in the third gear. very helpful with rear-wheel drive cars.
 
i always use manual, and taking turns in third gear is kind of time consuming when you're underpowered (which is the only way to have fun racing a Viper).
 
Taisan > Oreca > RT/10 > GTS > GTS-R

Actually, I rate the GTS-R as my least favorite Viper. It just seems to have that kneebone-not-connected-to-leg-bone handling, in my opinion. I spent the most time with the Taisan, that's why I like it best. I'm not dissing the Oreca, I just haven't spent all that much time with it.
 
i can't get the Oreca to brake without losing some control, that's mainly why i don't like it. the GTS-R handles just right.
off topic, the GT40 (Race Car - haven't put much time into the road-goer) is a great machine. sounds like crap, but is a well-rounded car. huge top end.
 
If it controls anything like it does in gt1 then the viper is a ripper car to have. I agree it gets a little unstable when driving at the limit, but thats what gt is all about guys.

Driving neutral with fully modified race cars with everything done is preferable, obviously, but with stock cars its hard to find that balance, usually its either understeer or oversteer or a bit of both.

And if you are scared of a bit of sideways action, then your not having as much fun as you could and should be. :burnout:
 
My Viper GTS is fully worked and has around 700hp. I got a max speed of 414kph/258mph out of it. Better than what I can get out of the Escudo!
 
Originally posted by SpeedRaca
And if you are scared of a bit of sideways action, then your not having as much fun as you could and should be. :burnout:
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Aye, agreed! But understeer sure is maddening!

I found the Taisan and Oreca to be nice to throw around, but I keep the heavier RT/10 and GTS in line more (thus, tighter suspension movements) because they are heavier cars.

Maybe I'm missing something in the GTS-R? One day I'll get to spend some more time with it.
 
True, you have to be pretty precise with massively torquey/powerful muscle cars like the Viper and yeah Ive found that while oversteer is fun, my race modded viper is an absolute hoot to drive - all the power but your tires actually stick to the road.

And yeah, understeer sux major. Im trying to get the gold in gt1 on license A-1 in the supra rz but that thing understeers something drastic... its damn hard and you have to really screech the rubbers before you start getting anywhere near some level of control
 
Originally posted by pupik
Aye, agreed! But understeer sure is maddening!

I found the Taisan and Oreca to be nice to throw around, but I keep the heavier RT/10 and GTS in line more (thus, tighter suspension movements) because they are heavier cars.

Maybe I'm missing something in the GTS-R? One day I'll get to spend some more time with it.
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My Viper days are kind of over, but I remember when I first got thet Oreca GTS-R I could handle it easier than any other Viper I had.
 
I was trying to win the final gt comp in gt1 with the 655 hp castrol supra gt and a fd rx-7 [R] and was finding it damn hard. I turned my Viper into a GTS-R and did everything else to it you could and whaddya know got a pretty easy win - with under 550 hp. That says something...
 
Originally posted by askia47
The viper is fast yet it does not handle well
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:reallyodd
It handles great. But therein lies the discord. I can handle Vipers just fine, but I don't handle the Elise GT1 well at all. Therefore it follows that "the Elise GT1 does not handle well," to which many GTPers would respond:

:reallyodd
It handles great.....
 
I agree.

I really enjoy oversteer and I find it easy to control but then again I have been playing colin mcrae rally on pc (where your sliding most of the time your driving) for yonks and pulling master handbrakes in carmageddon for a lot longer.

So yeah it goes without saying everyone is biased towards their own style of driving such as oversteer in a viper or neutral in an elise :D
 
Originally posted by troll
i think the dodge viper is an exceptional realistic car with the redicioulse 8.0litre V10 put in at rear wheel drive shows what american cars are all about all power no steer :mad:
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Just remember that American roads tend to have very few curves and bends.
 

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