Things I've witnessed that increase your DR

[Sven Jurgens]

It's actually quite brilliant the way PD designed it that you get DR from drivers that you beat and lose it to drivers that you lose to. But what happens if the top 5 in the lobby are all at 75K and they all finish in the top 5? Do they not lose DR to anyone in front of them since 75K is the max? If bottom half of the top 5 loses DR who gets the points since the top of the podium cant go over 75K?

Same question, what happens with DR.E drivers in the room. They don't have any DR yet to gain or lose, you start at a fixed value after your 5th race.

It should be implemented in a way similar to ELO rankings in chess. The formula for multiplayer gets quite complex, though.
It seems confirmed from experience, that most of it depends on relative DR and relative positions.
But unless we see actual code, there is no way of knowing exactly.

More ideas:
1. Does "beating" a high ranked player by 10 positions count more than beating him by 1. Probably.
2. The cap at 75k does not make ANY SENSE in a system like this. (as mentioned by fastone) One more coding mess up!
3. how can anyone be sure that fastest lap does not give some extra points.

1. No, see 3.
2. It makes sense as the top players will eventually hover up all the points, you can grind as many races as you like
3. It has been extensively tested by recording DR of all players before and after the race. You can do this yourself to confirm.

The only formula that's used is to calculate the point exchange between two players is
80 + ((DR difference) / 500) capped at 1-160 (maxes at 40K DR difference)

As @Famine already stated, leveling up adds 1500 DR, leveling down removes another 1500 DR. DR resets simply throw points away. You can't exceed 75k (not sure what happens to the extra points). DR.E drivers do not get points (not sure if beating them gains you anything) Not sure what happens when you beat people with only 1 DR, no points to take from them either.

 

[Famine]

Does "beating" a high ranked player by 10 positions count more than beating him by 1. Probably.

No, and I'll cover this in the answer below too.

how can anyone be sure that fastest lap does not give some extra points.

Simply because the mechanism is well understood.

For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR


If you have, say, 20,000 DR and you finish one place ahead of a driver with, oooh, 50,000 DR, you gain 140 DR from them (and they lose 140 DR to you). You also gain that if you finish two places ahead, or three, or five, or 19. If you beat someone with 10,000 DR by one place, you gain 60 DR from them.

We've been able to watch everyone from one race's DR simultaneously for quite some time, and that's simply how it goes. If there was any contribution from getting a fastest lap, or a clean race, or having an active or served penalty, it would change the numbers we see.

But what happens if the top 5 in the lobby are all at 75K and they all finish in the top 5? Do they not lose DR to anyone in front of them since 75K is the max?

They will lose DR to them, but the player in front won't gain it. The DR points are simply lost - but then they'd still gain from the players behind them.

For simplicity, let's imagine the top five drivers all have 75k and the other 15 all have 70k. The DR change would look like this:
1. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 5)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 0; DR change = +1,450; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
2. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 4)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 80; DR change = +1,370; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
3. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 3)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 2) = 160; DR change = +1,290; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
4. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 2)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 3) = 240; DR change = +1,210; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
5. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 1)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 4) = 360; DR change = +1,130; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
6. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 15) = 1,200; DR loss = (70 x 5) = 350; DR change = +850; Final DR = 70,850
7. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 14) = 1,120; DR loss = 80+(70 x 5) = 430; DR change = +690; Final DR = 70,690
8. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 13) = 1,040; DR loss = (80 x 2)+(70 x 5) = 510; DR change = +530; Final DR = 70,530
9. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 12) = 960; DR loss = (80 x 3)+(70 x 5) = 590; DR change = +370; Final DR = 70,370
10. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 11) = 880; DR loss = (80 x 4)+(70 x 5) = 670; DR change = +210; Final DR = 70,210
11. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 10) = 800; DR loss = (80 x 5)+(70 x 5) = 750; DR change = +50; Final DR = 70,050
12. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 9) = 720; DR loss = (80 x 6)+(70 x 5) = 830; DR change = -110; Final DR = 69,890

And so on.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

No, and I'll cover this in the answer below too.

Simply because the mechanism is well understood.

For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR


If you have, say, 20,000 DR and you finish one place ahead of a driver with, oooh, 50,000 DR, you gain 140 DR from them (and they lose 140 DR to you). You also gain that if you finish two places ahead, or three, or five, or 19. If you beat someone with 10,000 DR by one place, you gain 60 DR from them.

We've been able to watch everyone from one race's DR simultaneously for quite some time, and that's simply how it goes. If there was any contribution from getting a fastest lap, or a clean race, or having an active or served penalty, it would change the numbers we see.

They will lose DR to them, but the player in front won't gain it. The DR points are simply lost - but then they'd still gain from the players behind them.

For simplicity, let's imagine the top five drivers all have 75k and the other 15 all have 70k. The DR change would look like this:
1. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 5)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 0; DR change = +1,450; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
2. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 4)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 80; DR change = +1,370; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
3. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 3)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 2) = 160; DR change = +1,290; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
4. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 2)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 3) = 240; DR change = +1,210; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
5. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 1)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 4) = 360; DR change = +1,130; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
6. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 15) = 1,200; DR loss = (70 x 5) = 350; DR change = +850; Final DR = 70,850
7. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 14) = 1,120; DR loss = 80+(70 x 5) = 430; DR change = +690; Final DR = 70,690
8. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 13) = 1,040; DR loss = (80 x 2)+(70 x 5) = 510; DR change = +530; Final DR = 70,530
9. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 12) = 960; DR loss = (80 x 3)+(70 x 5) = 590; DR change = +370; Final DR = 70,370
10. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 11) = 880; DR loss = (80 x 4)+(70 x 5) = 670; DR change = +210; Final DR = 70,210
11. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 10) = 800; DR loss = (80 x 5)+(70 x 5) = 750; DR change = +50; Final DR = 70,050
12. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 9) = 720; DR loss = (80 x 6)+(70 x 5) = 830; DR change = -110; Final DR = 69,890

And so on.

Ahh, so points are not only 'lost' in DR resets, yet also bleeding away at the top end. In that case the DR cap is rather pointless as the adjustment based on DR would simply limit getting points from drivers 40K lower, while the high level players would go on exchanging points between themselves.

So I guess points sneak in at the bottom to compensate? Do DR.E and DR 1 players (or not enough DR to cover their losses) still give the expected amount to those who beat them? Makes sense or otherwise the system would slowly bleed dry.

Too bad it takes way too long to poll all drivers to determine / track the total amount of DR in the system.

 

[Famine]

So I guess points sneak in at the bottom to compensate?

I'd guess the level up bonus (and there's a 2k boost after the first five races too, isn't there?) is what adds points into the system.

 

[watto79]

No, and I'll cover this in the answer below too.

Simply because the mechanism is well understood.

For every car you finish in front of you gain:
80 - ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR

For every car you finish behind, you lose:
80 + ((Player DR - Rival DR))/500)DR


If you have, say, 20,000 DR and you finish one place ahead of a driver with, oooh, 50,000 DR, you gain 140 DR from them (and they lose 140 DR to you). You also gain that if you finish two places ahead, or three, or five, or 19. If you beat someone with 10,000 DR by one place, you gain 60 DR from them.

We've been able to watch everyone from one race's DR simultaneously for quite some time, and that's simply how it goes. If there was any contribution from getting a fastest lap, or a clean race, or having an active or served penalty, it would change the numbers we see.

They will lose DR to them, but the player in front won't gain it. The DR points are simply lost - but then they'd still gain from the players behind them.

For simplicity, let's imagine the top five drivers all have 75k and the other 15 all have 70k. The DR change would look like this:
1. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 5)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 0; DR change = +1,450; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
2. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 4)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = 80; DR change = +1,370; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
3. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 3)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 2) = 160; DR change = +1,290; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
4. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 2)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 3) = 240; DR change = +1,210; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
5. Start DR = 75,000; DR gain = (80 x 1)+(70 x 15) = 1,450; DR loss = (80 x 4) = 360; DR change = +1,130; Final DR = 75,000 (Capped)
6. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 15) = 1,200; DR loss = (70 x 5) = 350; DR change = +850; Final DR = 70,850
7. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 14) = 1,120; DR loss = 80+(70 x 5) = 430; DR change = +690; Final DR = 70,690
8. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 13) = 1,040; DR loss = (80 x 2)+(70 x 5) = 510; DR change = +530; Final DR = 70,530
9. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 12) = 960; DR loss = (80 x 3)+(70 x 5) = 590; DR change = +370; Final DR = 70,370
10. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 11) = 880; DR loss = (80 x 4)+(70 x 5) = 670; DR change = +210; Final DR = 70,210
11. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 10) = 800; DR loss = (80 x 5)+(70 x 5) = 750; DR change = +50; Final DR = 70,050
12. Start DR = 70,000; DR gain = (80 x 9) = 720; DR loss = (80 x 6)+(70 x 5) = 830; DR change = -110; Final DR = 69,890

And so on.

Love it or hate it, looking at that it's actually a very elegant system. Of course there are 1000 other ways of doing it, taking lots of other things into account, but this does do the job.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I'd guess the level up bonus (and there's a 2k boost after the first five races too, isn't there?) is what adds points into the system.

Yeah you start at 2K after 5 races. However I've seen E/B drivers (new accounts) win races. Do all those points simply vanish. Yet indeed, each new player / account contributes 2K to the total pool after 5 online races.

The level up bonus and level down 'penalty' cancel each other out.

DR resets take far more points out than the odd loss at the 75K top. Yet when a DR 1 player beats another DR 1 player or a DR.E player, does the winner still get 80 points to 81 while the loser stays at 1, or tough luck.

Does the GT Sport DR economy suffer inflation/deflation or is it more or less stable. New players combat any deflation inherent in the system, turning it into a sort of pyramid scheme. Yet perhaps there's inflation instead when beating DR 1 players introduces more points into the total pool.


It would also be fun to see the total amount of SR / average SR per player after each week. See what the dailies did to the SR pool. PD probably knows all these stats, total SR gained / lost per race combo, per region, per country

For a competitive online game it's lacking a lot of competitive stats!

 

[JayRS200]

I always go by the in game bar. I have a 1000000x watchmaker's loup superglued to my TV.

 

[Famine]

However I've seen E/B drivers (new accounts) win races. Do all those points simply vanish.

As far as I'm aware, yes.

The level up bonus and level down 'penalty' cancel each other out.

That would depend on what the median driver rank is. If the average driver is a C, they've gained a net 3,500 DR from level-up boosts (E to D, D to C), so that's a possible 23.6 billion extra DR points - although with only 35.5% of all profiles even joining Sport mode it's nearer 8.4 billion Although thinking about it, they'd have to give those points to other drivers to make them an actual input of points, so if they're still C that's a maximum of 1,500 DR points they can lose, for 3.6 billion DR points.

That's enough for 48,000 maxed-out profiles

 

[Sven Jurgens]

As far as I'm aware, yes.

That would depend on what the median driver rank is. If the average driver is a C, they've gained a net 3,500 DR from level-up boosts (E to D, D to C), so that's a possible 23.6 billion extra DR points - although with only 35.5% of all profiles even joining Sport mode it's nearer 8.4 billion Although thinking about it, they'd have to give those points to other drivers to make them an actual input of points, so if they're still C that's a maximum of 1,500 DR points they can lose, for 3.6 billion DR points.

That's enough for 48,000 maxed-out profiles

I love stats and KP can help with this!

80% has never touched sport mode! KP estimates the total amount of players that have accessed sport mode at 1,424,800

0.4% is DR.E no DR points yet, but can take points from other people
72.8% is DR.D -> 2,074,508,800 DR total added to the pool (2K for leveling up to DR.D) -> earned nothing
15.5% is DR.C -> 772,954,000 DR added (3.5K per player) -> earned at least 441,688,000 (takes 2K to get to C)
9.9% is DR.B -> 705,276,000 DR added (5K per player) -> earned at least 916,858,800 (takes 6.5K to get to B)
1.2% is DR.A -> 111,134,400 DR added (6.5K per player) -> earned at least 427,440,000 (takes 25K to get to A)
0.2% is DR.A+ -> 22,796,800 DR added (8K per player) -> earned at least 123,957,600 (takes 43.5K to get to A+)
Total: 3,686,670,000 3.6 billion DR, at least 1,909,944,400 points had to be taken from other players to get this distribution.

Now we just need to poll all 1,424,800 players who have entered sport mode to verify

Never takes things for granted and since I never actually tested it myself, I just did. I did a race A recording all DR before and after the race and the finishing order.

A 7191 -> 7961 +770 89 (+0.366) + 80 (+0.27) + 86 (+0.094) + 77 (-0.322) + 82 (+0.176) + 92 (+0.322) + 92 (+0.544) + 95 (+0.796) + 79 (-0.986)
B 11874 -> 12389
C 7326 -> 7774
D 10238 -> 10469
E 5530 -> 5696
F 8279 -> 8231
G 13352 -> 13043
H 13463 -> 12993
I 15089 -> 14428
J 6198 -> 5556 -642 -79 (-0.986) - 69 (-0.352) - 78 (-0.256) - 72 (-0.08) - 81 (+0.336) - 76 (-0.162) - 66 (-0.308) - 66 (-0.53) - 63 (-0.782)

Total DR before 98,540
Total DR after 98,540

It's a perfect fit. PD rounds things down (or up depends which way you look at it)
A vs B (7191 - 11874) / 500 = -9.366 A gets 89 points from B.
A vs J (7191 - 6198) / 500 = 1.986 A gets 78 points from J.

Now I need to find a room with DR.E or players with so little DR that they can't cough up what's owed. Or I can simply get to DR.1 myself.

The weekly race selection is bad when math is more fun than racing

Oh and can confirm that pitting after lap 1, then sitting out the race in the pit, earns you the clean race bonus

 

[seadog777]

I really suck. I got 1 driver point after over 100 sport mode races and 91 manner points. I cant do a race without loosing about 2 or 3 positions.?

I wouldn't worry about it. Just practice! I've done 51 races, and am still on ONE point! Early on I did mysteriously get 2000 (I think that was the Fiat 500 race!) and promptly lost it all the next day. Last week I thought I was improving, and even managed to gain 4 places (2 real overtakes but 2 off the track!) in the B race at Dragon Trail - but still didn't get any points ! Sure practice will help..... but not practicing in Sport mode this week as the races suck.

 

[Majorwolf72]

Well my evidence shows otherwise. My bar goes up if I don't drop a position while clearing a penalty. But I'm not here to argue.

Maybe just use Kudosprime or the GTS App so you don’t have to look at your bar but know the score exactly? Jee..

 

[Majorwolf72]

I wouldn't worry about it. Just practice! I've done 51 races, and am still on ONE point! Early on I did mysteriously get 2000 (I think that was the Fiat 500 race!) and promptly lost it all the next day. Last week I thought I was improving, and even managed to gain 4 places (2 real overtakes but 2 off the track!) in the B race at Dragon Trail - but still didn't get any points ! Sure practice will help..... but not practicing in Sport mode this week as the races suck.

Um, if both of you are that bad, I WOULD worry... Yeah I‘ve struggled a bit when I started back in July 2018, but by September I had reached B S and I‘m now about to enter into A S on one of my, by now, because it‘s fun, three accounts.

Some advice: Get into one of the trillions of GTS communities on FB. Join a team that’s willing to help you along. Get into a league and gain experience racing. You WILL improve.

Nothing mysterious about the 2k points: When you finish your 5th race, you get those. Like as a starting incentive. Equally, you get or lose 1500 points very time you transition into a higher or lower driver ranking, like from C to B or vice versa. As has been covered above.

 

[seadog777]

Um, if both of you are that bad, I WOULD worry...

Not worried in the slightest.... It's a game. I play it because I enjoy it. I don't have any pretensions that I'm Lewis Hamilton (or Vettel!).
And, with practice, I am getting better and I think the online races help as I can see how the pros do it (when I can get close enough that is )

I'll look into the league thing, that might be fun!

 

[Majorwolf72]

Not worried in the slightest.... It's a game. I play it because I enjoy it. I don't have any pretensions that I'm Lewis Hamilton (or Vettel!).
And, with practice, I am getting better and I think the online races help as I can see how the pros do it (when I can get close enough that is )

I'll look into the league thing, that might be fun!

I wish you luck!

The thing is, by just looking at how the top players do it you won’t understand most of what they do since you are missing too much information and experience. To actually master the game physics is a veritable art, and I benefit most from online sessions with my more experienced team mates who look at my actual driving and my throttle and break inputs and give feedback.

 

[anthaliscious]

Does this have to do with that online racing trash? I'll see you in 15 years when it actually works correctly.

Oh it works buddy.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I did some more tests after finally reaching DR.1 (by entering race C and sitting it out in the pit)

2 successful (without remote play or browsers crashing). First I finished last to see how much points I would add to the system, second I finished 5th to check if the game might hold the negative points behind the scenes, making it harder to get up from 1. It doesn't.

First race

A 49656 -> 49811 +155
B 28445 -> 28806 +361
C 19684 -> 20060 +376
D 14639 -> 14960 + 321
E 28202 -> 28089 - 113
F 26664 -> 26425 - 239
G 1669 -> 1753 + 84
H 292 -> 241 - 51
I 17390 -> 16859 - 531
J 1 -> 1 (- 1 - 23 - 40 - 50 - 23 - 26 - 76 - 79 - 45)

Total before: 186,642
Total after: 187,005 +363

363 DR added to the total DR pool, in line with how many points I owed, yet could not cough up.
Also note that finish positions 5th and 6th lose DR while 7th gains some. It all depends on DR difference.


Second race with another DR.1 player in the room

A 19871 -> 20293 + 422
B 412 -> 1064 + 652
C 16766 -> 16933 + 167
D 5250 -> 5489 + 239
E 1 -> 183 +182 (- 40 - 79 - 46 - 69 + 90 + 81 + 82 + 80 + 83)
F 5312 -> 5230 - 82
G 967 -> 812 - 155
H 1298 -> 979 - 319
I 1 -> 1 (- 40 - 79 - 46 - 69 - 80 - 69 - 78 - 77 + 83)
J 1931 -> 1280

Total before: 51,809
Total after: 52,264 +455

455 DR added to the total pool, the amount the other DR.1 player owed, yet could not cough up.
I finished 5th and earned exactly as many points as expected, no secret negative tally behind the scenes. No debts in gt sport!


Thus DR point value is slowly inflating over time. Points bleed out the top as well, when a 75K player wins, however with a ratio of 364:1 between DR.D and A+ (which also has a much larger range 25K vs 4K) DR.D inflation vastly exceeds DR.A+ deflation.

The question remains how many points are lost by DR resets whether DR points get worth more or less over time. Perhaps another reason PD keeps tweaking the penalty system, those DR resets are an important part of the DR economy

 

[M Albritton]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I lost 1471 points. Checked my points immediately after race on Kudos.

 

[Majorwolf72]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I lost 1471 points. Checked my points immediately after race on Kudos.

Immediate complaint to PD, then.

 

[Famine]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I lost 1471 points. Checked my points immediately after race on Kudos.

Edit: Yep, the math checks out, but it can't be done. That's a disconnection penalty right there.

 

[splitwindow]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I

That happened to me once, in a one car race.
I got zero points.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I lost 1471 points. Checked my points immediately after race on Kudos.

Did you get disconnected before getting back in the lobby after the race? If you lose connection after finishing, before online save flashes (after results are confirmed) it will still count as not finishing at all). Even if your DR is much higher, you still get 1 point per car beaten, see my test a few posts above where a 49K player still takes 1 point home from me at DR.1

Of course there could be a bug. Sometimes the start order looks screwed in the lobby during warm-up, perhaps in rare cases the finishing order gets screwed up when the server calculates the points :/

 

[UltimateLurker]

Oh it works buddy.

It's trash.

 

[Sven Jurgens]

I had the pole, fastest lap, clean race bonus and finished 1st with car number 1. I lost 1471 points. Checked my points immediately after race on Kudos.

Also note that when you get disconnected in a previous race, the results of that loss don't update until that race finishes. So if you get disconnected during the daily C on the hour (anytime after entering the warm-up lobby), the results of that disconnect will not update until 25-27 minutes after the hour. So if you switch to the daily A or B, for the 10 minutes past race you will see results at 23 minutes past that do not yet include the loss of that daily C disconnect. For the 20 minutes past race, you will see results from both the disconnect and the new race.

 

[Cuber Tom]

Not sure on the magnitude there, but losing a whole boatload of points while winning is certainly possible if you have a huge DR and everyone else in the lobby has a tiny one. DR A at 55k vs 19 DR D at 1k would result in more than a 500pt loss for the DR A even if they win.

DR gain = 19 x (80-((55000-1000)/500)
DR gain = 19 x (80-(54000/500)
DR gain = 19 x (80-108)
DR gain = 19 x -28
DR gain = -532.

This isn't correct.
If you beat a driver who has a DR more than 40k lower you still gain 1 DR point.
Winning a race means you get at least 1DR point times the number of drivers entered in the race.
You cannot lose DR by winning unless you get a DR reset.

 

[Famine]

This isn't correct.
If you beat a driver who has a DR more than 40k lower you still gain 1 DR point.
Winning a race means you get at least 1DR point times the number of drivers entered in the race.
You cannot lose DR by winning unless you get a DR reset.

I did wonder about that - I guess that somebody did the same math as above before launch and figured it'd be ridiculous to lose DR for winning (you can, after all, only beat what's in front of you) and stick an exclusion in for those bizarre edge cases.

Must have been a disconnect then.

 

[M Albritton]

Did you get disconnected before getting back in the lobby after the race? If you lose connection after finishing, before online save flashes (after results are confirmed) it will still count as not finishing at all). Even if your DR is much higher, you still get 1 point per car beaten, see my test a few posts above where a 49K player still takes 1 point home from me at DR.1

Of course there could be a bug. Sometimes the start order looks screwed in the lobby during warm-up, perhaps in rare cases the finishing order gets screwed up when the server calculates the points :/

No disconnection. I raced again right after and did ok. I cant remember the result, but I know I got positive points. Ive lost points for winning several times. Kudosprime seems to update after the "online saving" goes off and in you're in the chat lobby. Thats usually when I cuss out the jerk that caused me to lose 1000 points

 

[Pigems]

That’s the second case of this I’ve heard of today, have they changed the DR calculations and how it’s distributed recently maybe?

 

[Woodybobs]

No disconnection. I raced again right after and did ok. I cant remember the result, but I know I got positive points. Ive lost points for winning several times. Kudosprime seems to update after the "online saving" goes off and in you're in the chat lobby. Thats usually when I cuss out the jerk that caused me to lose 1000 points

Iirc (I may be corrected on this) KP shows DR points collected per day. If you've lost points in some races on the same day before winning some it's not visible unless you check after every race. The points you see upon logging in are the points you had at the end of the day you last entered a race. Possibly this is the reason it appears you lost points after a good result.

 

[M Albritton]

Iirc (I may be corrected on this) KP shows DR points collected per day. If you've lost points in some races on the same day before winning some it's not visible unless you check after every race. The points you see upon logging in are the points you had at the end of the day you last entered a race. Possibly this is the reason it appears you lost points after a good result.

I check after each race when Im trying to increase DR points. It updates immediately after each race. GT Companion app does too.

 

[Woodybobs]

I check after each race when Im trying to increase DR points. It updates immediately after each race. GT Companion app does too.

It updates after every race but only one amount is visible for each day. If you check your history you'll see it only shows one score per day no matter how many races you've done on that day. If you check after every race on a given day you can see your previous score before it refreshes but then that previous score will be replaced by your new amount. Foe example, if you end day 1 with 1000 points it will show that on the app. On day 2 if you lose 1000 points in race 1, and win 500 in race 2, and check your points after, it it will show only 2 scores: 1000 for day 1 and your current amount of 500 for day 2. It won't show that you've been at 0 in between.