Thrustmaster T598 Direct Axial Drive Discussion Thread

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Anyone tried T598 with Evo 32R wheel? There is a sale going on and I'm wondering whether it's worth it. I'm afraid 2cm extra in dimension and more than 400g in weight would dampen the feedback too much on 5Nm base.
 
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Pianista911
Anyone tried T598 with Evo 32R wheel? There is a sale going on and I'm wondering whether it's worth it. I'm afraid 2cm extra in dimension and more than 400g in weight would dampen the feedback too much on 5Nm base.
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The reviews of the Hypercar Wheel which is alot heavier than the stock say the FFB feels much better through it than the stock rim.
 
Chaos Racing
Great news, Any differences?
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Yesterday I was doing time trial on Sardegna with BMW McLaren GTR for around 1h. Just repeated it - I feel no difference. Of course, there might be some, it's just a feeling, not a measurement. Ability to map buttons is a good thing though.

Also Evo 32R rim just came and to be honest, I'm not sure if I'll keep it. It feels great, quality is there for sure, but FFB is (as I was afraid) noticably dampened compared to standard rim. I'm not sure if it's 2cm difference in diameter, probably more the extra 0,5kg. I just did some trials comparing both rims and times were almost the same, but even when I increased FFB for Evo, it felt lighter. I think it's better suited for more than 5Nm wheelbases.
 
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Pianista911
Yesterday I was doing time trial on Sardegna with BMW McLaren GTR for around 1h. Just repeated it - I feel no difference. Of course, there might be some, it's just a feeling, not a measurement. Ability to map buttons is a good thing though.

Also Evo 32R rim just came and to be honest, I'm not sure if I'll keep it. It feels great, quality is there for sure, but FFB is (as I was afraid) noticably dampened compared to standard rim. I'm not sure if it's 2cm difference in diameter, probably more the extra 0,5kg. I just did some trials comparing both rims and times were almost the same, but even when I increased FFB for Evo, it felt lighter. I think it's better suited for more than 5Nm wheelbases.
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Dam that is not good news as i was planning getting the Hypercar wheel when i can purchase the base on its own.
 
Pianista911
Yesterday I was doing time trial on Sardegna with BMW McLaren GTR for around 1h. Just repeated it - I feel no difference. Of course, there might be some, it's just a feeling, not a measurement. Ability to map buttons is a good thing though.

Also Evo 32R rim just came and to be honest, I'm not sure if I'll keep it. It feels great, quality is there for sure, but FFB is (as I was afraid) noticably dampened compared to standard rim. I'm not sure if it's 2cm difference in diameter, probably more the extra 0,5kg. I just did some trials comparing both rims and times were almost the same, but even when I increased FFB for Evo, it felt lighter. I think it's better suited for more than 5Nm wheelbases.
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Not sure about the weight, the 488 gt3 wheel is noticeably heavier than the standard (and way too low cost for my liking) wheel, and it still works great with the T598 and GT7.
 
mfetterelli
Did you update the firmware to 2.07 or newer? You’ll thank me once you do. Lots more settings unlocked from the stock build.
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I recently got a t598 but I run off a MacBook. I'm using the Parallels Desktop app to simulate having Windows 11 and everything works EXCEPT when I go to update the software I go through the process of putting it into boot mode, until after it is in boot mode the "My Thrustmaster Panel" no longer recognizes it and I'm stuck. Please help however you can, anyone, I have no idea where to go from here.
 
lukewhiteburn
I recently got a t598 but I run off a MacBook. I'm using the Parallels Desktop app to simulate having Windows 11 and everything works EXCEPT when I go to update the software I go through the process of putting it into boot mode, until after it is in boot mode the "My Thrustmaster Panel" no longer recognizes it and I'm stuck. Please help however you can, anyone, I have no idea where to go from here.
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This was my comment on Reddit when I was updatong mine on Windows 10, not sure if this works on Macbook or not.



"You need to hold L3 and settings before turning off the base...

If you follow the Thrustmaster guides and turn off the base and then hold the buttons when you turn it on, IT WILL NOT BE RECOGNISED.

To make the PC recognise the base:
  • switch on base
  • hold L3 and settings
  • whilst holding buttons, turn off base, still keep hold off buttons
  • still holding buttons turn base back on
  • you will here the PC USB recognising sound
  • now you can release L3 and settings and firmware can be updated

Thrustmaster need to make a new guide"


Link here: https://www.reddit.com/r/Thrustmaster/s/4ONCM7Ksqp
 
Chaos Racing
Dam that is not good news as i was planning getting the Hypercar wheel when i can purchase the base on its own.
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I've done some calculations (considering force at edge of the wheel and moment of inertia) how adding weight (I assumed it's a solid disk) and diameter to the wheel would affect the force needed to be applied on the edge of rim. Conclusions are that for those wheels the base should have following torque value to feel the same as standard 30cm 800g rim:
  • Evo32R wheel (round, 32cm and 1300g) the base should have around 9,61Nm
  • Hypercar wheel (rectangular 32cm x 25cm, 1433g) - 7,89Nm
  • Ferrari 488 GT3 wheel (rectangular 31cm x 17,5cm, 1140g) - 7,86Nm if it was round, but it is not! Assuming it is 310mm x 175mm rectangle with its center attached to the engine shaft, the base should have 5,41Nm to feel the same as original wheel, which proves why @manou finds it great with T598 :)

It's simplified, because it's impossible to calculate weight distribution for those wheel (it depends how much weight is around the center vs edge and the shape), but it should give some rough idea.

Edit: I now treated round wheels as cylinder and rectangular as cubid to better take weight distribution into account.
 
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