Time Trial Discussion

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You are very fast!

Spec-ECU
This Daytona Oval TT isn't completely empty calories.

For the first time, I've started to study the laps in my stints, looking at the Optimals and watching the corresponding replays to see what I actually did, then try and compile them in one lap.

I hadn't done that before, and I'll probably start doing it regularly for every TT forward. 🤓
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You are too competitive;-) but I guess like 99.99% of people here. I guess that is why this place exists. What I also like is that people are very sporting, people help each other and push limits. It is very healthy and encouraging!

Spec-ECU
Thanks! But you need to knock it off trying to leapfrog me! Every time you do I go, "oh, hell no!" Then I set my rig back up to retaliate. 😆
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Lightpilgrim
You are too competitive;-) but I guess like 99.99% of people here. I guess that is why this place exists. What I also like is that people are very sporting, people help each other and push limits. It is very healthy and encouraging!
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Not too much. Depends on my interest level. I was really happy for you to finish ahead of me on the kart TT at Brands. T'was like a proud dad moment for me. 😁
 
Hi,

Despite my earlier comment about poop and doughnuts. I decided to try the hot lap insertion trajectory tactic strategy time trial trick thing! It worked!.....
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@Homestead...

I tried laps with and without any aids - I am not sure they make any difference. ( To me at least! )


Best regards to all here.


Ian
 
I try to make the most of the advise you and others give me here. I highly value and appreciate it! I think I like GT7 because of this community.

Spec-ECU
Not too much. Depends on my interest level. I was really happy for you to finish ahead of me on the kart TT at Brands. T'was like a proud dad moment for me. 😁
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Guys, those on a controller only please. What is your fastest lap in Daytona? I would think it is harder of a controller to be so laser precise and accurate, also consistent.
 
Lightpilgrim
I try to make the most of the advise you and others give me here. I highly value and appreciate it! I think I like GT7 because of this community.



Guys, those on a controller only please. What is your fastest lap in Daytona? I would think it is harder of a controller to be so laser precise and accurate, also consistent.
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I one and done it for 40.8 ish I believe, but definitely veered off the yellow and even slightly squeeled the tires once or twice. I was on my regular sensitivity 10 though. I guess dialing down to the lowest (-2 I think it is) is probably best here.

Not sure what would be possible for me but I'm not very precise anyways unlike some of our pad aliens here.

I guess that a wheel makes sticking to the yellow easier but who knows.
 
Famine
No. Nowhere even close. Not even a 40.4 will happen. Or a 40.50x, or 40.51x. I doubt a 40.52x.

How are you calculating this? At your supposed 39.8 (let's say flat), gold would be 40.198, not 40.700.

If someone does manage a 40.529, gold will be 40.934.
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I have done enough laps to tell you the top time can go as low as 40.532 (that i my theoretical optimal). I cant see it geting lower than that. So yes, your doubts are well founded. :)
Famine
Umm... how?

There's only two things to do: full throttle all the time, be close to the inside yellow lines. That'll get you within 0.6% every lap, and gold is +1%.
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In the 2J this is correct, but in the 2X you actually had to run inside of the yellow line. Running on the banking could still get you gold, but you had to be quite precise. If not, gold was actually missable there.
equalitus
I tried the 2X Daytona for hours and while numerically close to gold, it didn't happen. But for 99,9% of al GTplanet users it was easy 2M.
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Read the above, might explain why you couldn't manage gold in the 2X.
NicoGmbh
Hello everyone,

I think we’re about to run out of jokes about the Chaparral/Daytona TT.

I take advantage of this quiet period to get your opinion about the previous Brands Hatch/Karting TT.

According to @half_sourly difficulty barometer, this event is in the good half of easy combos.

Looking at the results at the end of the event, I was surprised by everyone’s results:
  • Some aliens stay on top as usual,
  • For others, I expected to find them higher,
  • Some new challengers have done great things.

In general, what did you think of this TT?


For my part, I give you my opinion.

Since the beginning of the year, I have been trying to participate more regularly and more seriously.

Thanks to you, getting the gold medal is no longer a goal... Now, I aim for a delta around 1.5%, and I’m very happy when I go below 1%.

BH/Karting is certainly the event I have spent most time on since Daytona Road/Viper Gr.3 – Sardegna/Dino – Dragons Gardens/Merc. 190 + BMW M3 E36.

I would even say that the time investment was unreasonable.

I think I reached a glass ceiling during this challenge.

During my various sessions, I obtained several optimals below 49.050 of which 1 to 49.030.

This should have allowed me to be in the middle of the top 100 midfield.

This is where I realize what it takes to reach the Alien level. Hats off to you guys !


Looking at a little bit:

- T1 Paddock Hill Bend: I was pretty regular, my deltas were almost identical to 10 hundredths in the ascent towards HailwoodHill,

- T2 Druids Bend, the first difficulty that could ruin my lap. I tried lines and braking variants (with or without abs) to find consistency,

- T3 Graham Hill Bend: For me the most decisive section because of the success of this entry depends on the speed maintained for Cooper Straight which can cause 1 or 2 tenths to lose (I have often invalidated a lap in this section),

- T4 Surtess: not really a topic,

- T5/6 McLaren/Clark Curve: another section subject to significant improvements. The braking after the end of the concrete conditions the glide of the first curve, then precisely expand the trajectory towards the curb to maintain a decisive speed for the end.

All this to tell you that I found this TT extremely difficult in the last hundredth hunt and that I find the WR really crazy.

Thank you for reading.
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I turned FFB strength and sensitivity up to max both on the wheel and in game, lowered controller sensitivity to 0 (a friend insisted this has an effect on steering wheel aswell, but I cannot confirm this)
Then I was fiddeling with steering angle setting, and finally settled on 360 degrees. I think auto on the kart is 180 or 270. Either way turning this up, together with the higtend FFB, helped keep the kart in control when it starts to drift.
I have had to change the FFB before (steering wobble on the straights in R92CP at sarthe), but this was the first time I had to fiddle with steering angle settings, I normally have it in auto.

Fun fact, I kept fiddeling with all these settings in the chapparall and, altohugh I dont think its necessary, I found it easiest to run 1080 degree steering, with FFB at its lowest setting.:cheers:
 
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ERAZER
Fun fact, I kept fiddeling with all these settings in the chapparall and, altohugh I dont think its necessary, I found it easiest to run 1080 degree steering, with FFB at its lowest setting.:cheers:
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Fun fact i went to max FFB on my DDP and and no other changes.

While controller or fidelity is what is making the optimum optimums, life is way to short to over think driving round in a circle for 40s the kudos is very very limited.
 
ERAZER
In the 2J this is correct, but in the 2X you actually had to run inside of the yellow line. Running on the banking could still get you gold, but you had to be quite precise. If not, gold was actually missable there.
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It was all I did for it (on pad too!) and I think I was 0.8% off, so pretty comfortable given the thousandths here and there :lol:
ERAZER
I have done enough laps to tell you the top time can go as low as 40.532 (that i my theoretical optimal). I cant see it geting lower than that. So yes, your doubts are well founded. :)
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Lightpilgrim
I try to make the most of the advise you and others give me here. I highly value and appreciate it! I think I like GT7 because of this community.



Guys, those on a controller only please. What is your fastest lap in Daytona? I would think it is harder of a controller to be so laser precise and accurate, also consistent.
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40.66 I believe. That was about 10 laps of effort and after discovering that not touching the stick at all on the straights was giving me about a tenth. I haven’t employed other strategies purposefully such as cutting the yellow right at the end or doing a setup lap (other than being fast from the previous go). Set my sensitivity to -2 and it was still too sensitive.
 
newmedia_dev
Life is too short, the Daytona trial while a free amount of credits isn’t teaching anything about how to drive in a useful way.
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And what is the fun and excitement of driving around the Daytona track over and over. It gets boring after so many runs. But the person would get an easy extra 2M for the job done and lap made. This is the 2nd time that we've had a TT event take place at the Daytona Oval track at night, I believe I'm correct.
 
newmedia_dev
Life is too short, the Daytona trial while a free amount of credits isn’t teaching anything about how to drive in a useful way.
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No need to be so grumpy.

I also dont enjoy driving in a circle that much.
But I do enjoy having contact with the front, with a theoretical that would easily get P1. And it is fun being able to compete with friends that on a normal track simply cant keep up.
And once you start getting inot the .55x and below, there actually is some skill starting to come into play. A different type of skill than a normal track would, but still...
 
Lightpilgrim
Guys, those on a controller only please. What is your fastest lap in Daytona? I would think it is harder of a controller to be so laser precise and accurate, also consistent.
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.662. No assists, controller sensitivity set to -2. Just like I did in the similar TT we had last year.

For me it was a 10 mins session, not worrying about how to prepare a faster lap or anything like that. The main problem (if there was any) was T2. The car tends to go up to the higher lane, when pushing the car back close to the yellow line I got my lap invalidated most of the time, because I crossed the damn yellow line.

Other than that I couldn't care less about this TT.
 

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