Time Trial Discussion

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I think I saw my optimal at .563... I think it's possible.

I also think .560 is possible on a controller. At least theoretically. But maybe someone did it

Very good lap. I hit the limit of what is possible for me on a controller. As I am super new and it is my 4th TT, I try to practice for as long as there is something I see I can learn or improve. Here, I see that I will not be able to improve more nor I will learn any new skill anymore. It was a good experience, something completely different.

I would tend to believe that the wheel is offering this much required smoothness and control as you can do it with both hands vs trying to keep the car super steady and smooth with just one finger on a stick. There are limits. At least I see mine:-)

I found one 1/1000th of a second. I might be done with a 40.573.

Any improvement recommendations on my hot lap setup?

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Annoyingly my optimal is a 40.571 so I may be back for more 🤪
 
Life is too short, the Daytona trial while a free amount of credits isn’t teaching anything about how to drive in a useful way.

I also dont enjoy driving in a circle that much.
But I do enjoy having contact with the front, with a theoretical that would easily get P1. And it is fun being able to compete with friends that on a normal track simply cant keep up.
And once you start getting inot the .55x and below, there actually is some skill starting to come into play. A different type of skill than a normal track would, but still...
Same here. Except my optimal is very high 40.54 rather than 40.532. I never thought I'd spend hours searching for thousands, but once I got into the top 200 and realised my optimal was top 50, I kept going.

It might teach me nothing about driving, other than acute precision with the wheel, but it scratches a competitive itch. Aside from now being in the top 50, I'm top of my friends board and I have not been in a very long time, certainly not since stupidly accepting friend requests from the likes of @Dan_Tes @Gomario JSP @djolliea @330_D and all the other very fast folk.

And the precision might sound trivial, but the smallest difference in line in turn 1 can make 0.015 seconds difference, bigger for turn 2; huge in this context. Even straightening up a millisecond too late out of turn 1 can turn a .916 sector 2 into a .923.

In the end we each do what we want. There's no wrong way to play the game. Fun is subjective. :cheers:
 
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🤬 Could have been a 1:50, but messed up the final turn. 🥲
 
Same here. Except my optimal is very high 40.54 rather than 40.532. I never thought I'd spend hours searching for thousands, but once I got into the top 200 and realised my optimal was top 50, I kept going.

It might teach me nothing about driving, other than acute precision with the wheel, but it scratches a competitive itch. Aside from now being in the top 50, I'm top of my friends board and I have not been in a very long time, certainly not since stupidly accepting friend requests from the likes of @Dan_Tes @Gomario JSP @djolliea @330_D and all the other very fast folk.

And the precision might sound trivial, but the smallest difference in line in turn 1 can make 0.015 seconds difference, bigger for turn 2; huge in this context. Even straightening up a millisecond too late out of turn 1 can turn a .916 sector 2 into a .923.

In the end we each do what we want. There's no wrong way to play the game. Fun is subjective. :cheers:
I agree! There’s always something to be gained and learned from pushing one’s limits.
 
It might teach me nothing about driving, other than acute precision with the wheel, but it scratches a competitive itch. Aside from now being in the top 50, I'm top of my friends board and I have not been in a very long time, certainly not since stupidly accepting friend requests from the likes of @Dan_Tes
We come at this from 2 different perspectives, I want my time spent to help feed in to the core of the driving I do which is Sports mode dailies and GTWS. Things like the AM helps with general car control, acceleration, the importance of gear selection. These are very useful skills for 99.99% of the game. Moving the stick a micron or lowering wheel settings to unrealistic levels aren’t useful anywhere other than this specific challenge.

That was why I was blasè about this oval TT. Yeah I get golds when I want to or they are interesting but I’m not competing with you guys both skill wise and also time wise has to be spread between various areas of the game.

Also I wouldn’t have @Dan_Tes on my friends list either ;)

We are all fighting our virtual friends on one leaderboard or another, I never top mine for ranked races ever!! 🍻
 
….various areas of the game and various areas of life too….

P.S. for the foreseeable future I am not accepting any new friends requests:-)

We come at this from 2 different perspectives, I want my time spent to help feed in to the core of the driving I do which is Sports mode dailies and GTWS. Things like the AM helps with general car control, acceleration, the importance of gear selection. These are very useful skills for 99.99% of the game. Moving the stick a micron or lowering wheel settings to unrealistic levels aren’t useful anywhere other than this specific challenge.

That was why I was blasè about this oval TT. Yeah I get golds when I want to or they are interesting but I’m not competing with you guys both skill wise and also time wise has to be spread between various areas of the game.

Also I wouldn’t have @Dan_Tes on my friends list either ;)

We are all fighting our virtual friends on one leaderboard or another, I never top mine for ranked races ever!! 🍻
 
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We come at this from 2 different perspectives, I want my time spent to help feed in to the core of the driving I do which is Sports mode dailies and GTWS. Things like the AM helps with general car control, acceleration, the importance of gear selection. These are very useful skills for 99.99% of the game. Moving the stick a micron or lowering wheel settings to unrealistic levels aren’t useful anywhere other than this specific challenge.
Well if anything this TT is a reminder that time can be gained even in easy flat out corners, if we drive with enough concentration. So imo it is not a totally useless experience. Also wacky things like this TT is what makes Gran Turismo Gran Turismo and make it stand out among other sim racing games.
 
Well if anything this TT is a reminder that time can be gained even in easy flat out corners, if we drive with enough concentration. So imo it is not a totally useless experience. Also wacky things like this TT is what makes Gran Turismo Gran Turismo and make it stand out among other sim racing games.
I don’t disagree at all, but outside of grinding daily TT or pure TTs like this, finding fractions of seconds is probably not most people’s main problem….

I love GT, I’ve played it since the first one so not hating on GT or not saying this isn’t A cool TT, just FOR ME it has very little use as a teaching exercise or even practice exercise and so FOR ME it’s not that fun or useful other than getting credits I don’t need.
 
Good lord, over 135 000th and still gold, this TT is madness XD
PD aiming for that 99,9% gold rate :lol:

Guys, those on a controller only please. What is your fastest lap in Daytona? I would think it is harder of a controller to be so laser precise and accurate, also consistent.
40.593 here, optimal being a 40.571 that I'll never achieve of course :rolleyes:
Hope it will stay in the top 5000
 
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Morning folks!,

off-topic

Been a few days since i was kind of active here, major busy days here and every free hour i'm putting in the house renovation after the water damage, can't have my wife and daughter living in a concreet jungle to long, living on a bare concreet floor and have bare concrete walls isn't funny at all 😂 but walls are done, and yesterday i spent 12 hours getting the new floor in...... body is wrecked, so are my hands..., So time was not on my side.

But this morning i did some Watkins laps again, with frustrating splits, with a fastest S2 of .280 but totally missed the forlast turn AGAIN.

Few laps later i had a less great first 2 sectors but a "descent" third one what did result in a PB though, and i think a secured top 100.
Very scruffy lap and if looking at my optimals a .3 should be possible but i just don't have the time these weeks to put the time in I need to progress, ( i'm not like the real fast guys that deliver top time on the first session...... i need tracktime and then porgress by learning the hard way 😂 )

But...into the .5's at least

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This one was very close though.... 🙂😁🙃🧐😟😟



@half_sourly Thanks for mention me in the fast lane, but the other dudes you metioned are indeed in my friendslist too, including you 😂....so for me there were times felt lonely at the top untill i sended more friends requests...😂
No way i'm ever regaining first place again, but i love it, i'm always behind rediculouse Ed @Ed_Night .... @djolliea and @Dan_Tes ..
nomatter how hard i try...., Then there is @330_D who get's upducted like every 2 weeks.... and @AdxRE who always delivers..
Everybody got so fast in the game it isn't even funny anymore 😂

So mega job on topping that list!

And.... we can't forget the fact that we are dealing with the fastst players of this game on this forum, wheel and pad, and since you started this whole timetrial shennanigans with the board everybody wants a piece of the pie, this is all on you buddy 😂

Thanks again for making GT7 what it is :bowdown:
 
It just amazes me how people can get gold seemingly so easily. I managed a 2:00 at Watkins Glen for bronze and that's still a good 6-6.5 seconds off gold. Can't get my head round how players can shave so many seconds off their lap times...
Don't be fooled by aliens everywhere around here, regular earthlings struggle to get gold on this TT.
 
It just amazes me how people can get gold seemingly so easily. I managed a 2:00 at Watkins Glen for bronze and that's still a good 6-6.5 seconds off gold. Can't get my head round how players can shave so many seconds off their lap times...
If you want to put in the effort then upload a video of your lap to YouTube. Alternatively share it to your personal Gran Turismo page but I don't know how that works exactly.

This would allow our fellow aliens to comment on your lap and point out improvements. If you're that far off gold it usually means that you have some fundamental flaws that can often be corrected relatively easily. It doesn't mean easy golds but it will get you closer.

Personally watching lap guides or simply the in game top replays help me. I replay every corner and try to remember breaking, turn in and acceleration points and then try to replicate them as good as possible.

I am no natural talent at all but this approach gets me into gold after about 1 to 4 hours in almost all time trials.
 
Same here. Except my optimal is very high 40.54 rather than 40.532. I never thought I'd spend hours searching for thousands, but once I got into the top 200 and realised my optimal was top 50, I kept going.

It might teach me nothing about driving, other than acute precision with the wheel, but it scratches a competitive itch. Aside from now being in the top 50, I'm top of my friends board and I have not been in a very long time, certainly not since stupidly accepting friend requests from the likes of @Dan_Tes @Gomario JSP @djolliea @330_D and all the other very fast folk.

And the precision might sound trivial, but the smallest difference in line in turn 1 can make 0.015 seconds difference, bigger for turn 2; huge in this context. Even straightening up a millisecond too late out of turn 1 can turn a .916 sector 2 into a .923.

In the end we each do what we want. There's no wrong way to play the game. Fun is subjective. :cheers:

Morning folks!,

off-topic

Been a few days since i was kind of active here, major busy days here and every free hour i'm putting in the house renovation after the water damage, can't have my wife and daughter living in a concreet jungle to long, living on a bare concreet floor and have bare concrete walls isn't funny at all 😂 but walls are done, and yesterday i spent 12 hours getting the new floor in...... body is wrecked, so are my hands..., So time was not on my side.

But this morning i did some Watkins laps again, with frustrating splits, with a fastest S2 of .280 but totally missed the forlast turn AGAIN.

Few laps later i had a less great first 2 sectors but a "descent" third one what did result in a PB though, and i think a secured top 100.
Very scruffy lap and if looking at my optimals a .3 should be possible but i just don't have the time these weeks to put the time in I need to progress, ( i'm not like the real fast guys that deliver top time on the first session...... i need tracktime and then porgress by learning the hard way 😂 )

But...into the .5's at least

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This one was very close though.... 🙂😁🙃🧐😟😟



@half_sourly Thanks for mention me in the fast lane, but the other dudes you metioned are indeed in my friendslist too, including you 😂....so for me there were times felt lonely at the top untill i sended more friends requests...😂
No way i'm ever regaining first place again, but i love it, i'm always behind rediculouse Ed @Ed_Night .... @djolliea and @Dan_Tes ..
nomatter how hard i try...., Then there is @330_D who get's upducted like every 2 weeks.... and @AdxRE who always delivers..
Everybody got so fast in the game it isn't even funny anymore 😂

So mega job on topping that list!

And.... we can't forget the fact that we are dealing with the fastst players of this game on this forum, wheel and pad, and since you started this whole timetrial shennanigans with the board everybody wants a piece of the pie, this is all on you buddy 😂

Thanks again for making GT7 what it is :bowdown:

Legitimately feel flattered to be mentioned in this crew of super fast friends of mine. Seriously. I have a little bit of imposter syndrome here and feel like I'm lucky more than I'm good but I think I can start believing in my ability... 🍻

This has become my first Internet home. Fantastic place to virtually hang out and chat with like minded insane people.

Truly love you all and thank you for all the help in the time I've been here. Nothing like numbers to prove how much this place makes people better at this game.

Rock on my fellow time chasers!! ❤️
 
It just amazes me how people can get gold seemingly so easily. I managed a 2:00 at Watkins Glen for bronze and that's still a good 6-6.5 seconds off gold. Can't get my head round how players can shave so many seconds off their lap times...
It is up to you. The amount of listening and candid assessment of yourself is a key. Aliens aside, humans can be pretty fast and gold for them can be relatively easy. The path to fast and easy is anything but, however. Knowing where you need improvement is the beginning. Read, watch, implement, wash, repeat. Braking points, turn in points, acceleration points, hitting apexes, using all the track. It goes from "apex? what the heck is that?" to "well that wasn't very good, missed the apex by two feet and don't even talk about the rotation point and acceleration point". It goes from "I hit my brake mark and didn't stop in time" to "that was a really good exit, I need to adjust my braking point or I'll overshoot the apex on the next turn". Me? I'm still struggling to get better and likely will never be as good as I would like to be, but I no longer worry about the nasty Thursday morning surprise finding that my gold has turned silver.

Like most things, the decision is up to you.
Regards,
Ken
 
Was starting to suffer from time trial withdrawal so I went back to the Vantage.

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OK so whoever is already bored with 2J on Daytona and don't find it challenging enough and looking for something challenging...I have a challenge for you 😉
Sardegna TT Dirt track, Hyundai Genesis Gr. B Rally car. Tuning allowed, put turbo if you want, adjust suspension so car don't bounce like crazy, give it a go.
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Sounds like a great initiative, I might try it.
 
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I am learning a lot from you! You were so helpful to me when I was struggling at Spa CE.
When I saw you drive and realized you use a controller, I could not believe it is possible. But…clearly it is if you are doing it, so I just keep being inspired and just want to learn to be as smooth, as fast and tactical.

And I am happy you are among my friends on PSN!


Was starting to suffer from time trial withdrawal so I went back to the Vantage.

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Sounds like a great initiative, I might try it.
 
Well done! I got to .549 yesterday with an optimal.544 (.227, .917, .400). But I'm giving it a rest for now in favour of Watkins Glen. I'd done only one session there so thought I'd make an effort. Depending on what we get on Thursday, I might go back to Daytona and grind for those last few thousands...
 
I am learning a lot from you! You were so helpful to me when I was struggling at Spa CE.
When I saw you drive and realized you use a controller, I could not believe it is possible. But…clearly it is if you are doing it, so I just keep being inspired and just want to learn to be as smooth, as fast and tactical.

And I am happy you are among my friends on PSN!
Thank you! And you've been making a lot of progress as well, it's been impressive to watch 👏
 
Goodmorning folks!

The good old GT7 alarm-buzzer went at O-sixhundred again 😂 ....why?
Because i know i can be faster at Watkins, it's just mega hard to put it all together..
some sessions i just have trouble even getting into the .6xx and some sessions it just is a lot easier or something, weird ....
Lots if S2 splits in the .3xx but kept stuffing up the forlast corner as usual, the S2 splits came down to multiple high .2xx's
when i finally had a .228 and a descent last sector altho T9 wasn't a great as it was in previous laps ofcourse 😂😂

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Places were i did find over time after driving many miles on this combo

A: 2/3 the esses, i'm faster following P1 when lifting, no need to throw away 5/10 lap trying to full send it, the time you are getting slidy on the curb and after the weighttransfer isn't worth it imo. little lift is fine if you aren't hunting top 10

B: Busstop.... for me definately braking into 4th gear for the extra rotating to get the car to the left side after the first apex.
and throttle overlay seems to be the key here, i had high .2xx S2 splits while sliding all the way into T5, early as possible on throttle in T5 is ofcourse the best and sliding in a bit means the nose is already pointed in the right way.

C: T6, fastest way is definately staying on the inside insetad of getting it sideways by braking, so gentile trailbraking is key,
very difficult corner to stick and a real lapkiller.

D: The Toe, early apex, feels weird but it makes the exit much better and chances of oversteer are lees and better to handle because you have less steering input, uphill + steering input mean shredding menas timeloss.

E: T9 the Heel, Troublemaker for me, since @Barareklam mentioned 3th gear there i tried to make it work, that took ages,
But indeed seems better on the exit, little harder to control but it is faster if you nail it!

F: T9..... god what a love/hate relationship we have....I'm still stuck on 4th gear here, i think 3th could be faster but i just can't make it work there.... @Ed_Night ??, 3th or 4th?

G: Then ...the worst ( for me ) corner of the whole combo...T10.... what a bastard you are...
Feels akward....sometimes the 200board is a fine brakepoint, sometimes it's to late..... sometimes to early, i don't get it..
i'm inconsistent on this one like crazy, and almost all my possible PB laps are killed right there by losing time,

But....descent lap and all not to....shaabbbyyy...that's right!

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Abuse in it's pure form 😂

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Very close again

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Have a great day,
 
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