Time Trial Discussion

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I also improved at Watkins, by a couple of tenths, mainly by being neater and tighter into corners and not barreling into them as much, I do find 4th into 3rd works better for rotation and exit speed at turns 8 and 9.

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Gomario JSP
Goodmorning folks!

The good old GT7 alarm-buzzer went at O-sixhundred again 😂 ....why?
Because i know i can be faster at Watkins, it's just mega hard to put it all together..
some sessions i just have trouble even getting into the .6xx and some sessions it just is a lot easier or something, weird ....
Lots if S2 splits in the .3xx but kept stuffing up the forlast corner as usual, the S2 splits came down to multiple high .2xx's
when i finally had a .228 and a descent last sector altho T9 wasn't a great as it was in previous laps ofcourse 😂😂

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Places were i did find over time after driving many miles on this combo

A: 2/3 the esses, i'm faster following P1 when lifting, no need to throw away 5/10 lap trying to full send it, the time you are getting slidy on the curb and after the weighttransfer isn't worth it imo. little lift is fine if you aren't hunting top 10

B: Busstop.... for me definately braking into 4th gear for the extra rotating to get the car to the left side after the first apex.
and throttle overlay seems to be the key here, i had high .2xx S2 splits while sliding all the way into T5, early as possible on throttle in T5 is ofcourse the best and sliding in a bit means the nose is already pointed in the right way.

C: T6, fastest way is definately staying on the inside insetad of getting it sideways by braking, so gentile trailbraking is key,
very difficult corner to stick and a real lapkiller.

D: The Toe, early apex, feels weird but it makes the exit much better and chances of oversteer are lees and better to handle because you have less steering input, uphill + steering input mean shredding menas timeloss.

E: T9 the Heel, Troublemaker for me, since @Barareklam mentioned 3th gear there i tried to make it work, that took ages,
But indeed seems better on the exit, little harder to control but it is faster if you nail it!

F: T9..... god what a love/hate relationship we have....I'm still stuck on 4th gear here, i think 3th could be faster but i just can't make it work there.... @Ed_Night ??, 3th or 4th?

G: Then ...the worst ( for me ) corner of the whole combo...T10.... what a bastard you are...
Feels akward....sometimes the 200board is a fine brakepoint, sometimes it's to late..... sometimes to early, i don't get it..
i'm inconsistent on this one like crazy, and almost all my possible PB laps are killed right there by losing time,

But....descent lap and all not to....shaabbbyyy...that's right!

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Abuse in it's pure form 😂

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Very close again

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Have a great day,
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I use 3rd gear for T9, but never tested to stay in 4th.
 
Lomic
Gave it another go, this lowering controller sensitivity to the lowest value. Did exactly the same best lap, no way to go in the 0:40.5XX yet, frustrating
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yeah I've done a few sessions now trying to improve my time (.606) and haven't been able to. How anyone is getting .550 type times is beyond me...
 
Nakano219
Already over 200k entries for Daytona in less than a week.

I suspect this will comfortably jump the other Chaparral/Daytona combo to become the most entered 2 week TT.
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And have what of all these new entrants learned?

Car control?
Braking fidelity?
Throttle modulation?

What is going to happen is some odd or uber competitive thing on Thursday and people will run away/balk at it.

Don’t was just free useless credits, and they haven’t learned a damn thing about actual car control.
 
newmedia_dev
And have what of all these new entrants learned?

Car control?
Braking fidelity?
Throttle modulation?

What is going to happen is some odd or uber competitive thing on Thursday and people will run away/balk at it.

Don’t was just free useless credits, and they haven’t learned a damn thing about actual car control.
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I get what you're saying, but meh...lot's of people don't care if they learn anything about car control. Not everyone takes it that seriously. That's why a lot of those people don't take part in the "real" TT events.
 
ZevZoq
I get what you're saying, but meh...lot's of people don't care if they learn anything about car control. Not everyone takes it that seriously. That's why a lot of those people don't take part in the "real" TT events.
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That’s so fair and true but we also have this massively growing leaderboard. Where it’s fun and competitive (probably serious at the sharp end)

This is my point, the Meme time trials are not good feeders for the competitive ones where the difference isn’t 2ft higher up a bank.

The whole sports mode is a missed opportunity make something special and progressive but nope, go round in a circle and learn nothing all the new players.

Accessible doesn’t mean useful.
 
Lomic
Accessible means new people try it, and they can be tempted to pursue and become better.
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But be massively disappointed when their “gold” time has not taught them to be remotely competitive in a road or race car? It’s not even a half way house of yin and yang.

The AM TT is a bit tough because the fast guys can go fast but that’s an average level of difficulty to be fair.

Driving round in a broken circle is not difficulty, you will end up with a whole bunch of “gold medal” peeps who won’t be able to to compete and, rather than bringing them in it gives them all the tools to walk away.

These things are really primitive in their thinking, make it competitively easy.

Make a race mode with corners and other people.

These are diametrically opposite both driving wise and skill wise.

You will definitely see a down trend on Thursday, and I’ll be surprised if the AM has a really high gold count. Happy to be proven wrong though.
 
Lightpilgrim
Not much more to learn at Daytona for me. I am back to try CE in Barcelona. That is not easy…and you need to be very good and accurate with throttle and breaking. But this will translate to other tracks.
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Do you participate in manufacturers cup? You could use your fresh knowledge there tomorrow... and earn good credits.
 
newmedia_dev
But be massively disappointed when their “gold” time has not taught them to be remotely competitive in a road or race car?
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Do you really think that casual players that may enter TT on an easy TT opportunity are entering the TT to learn anything ??? No they see 2 easy millions and may find the TT idea fun and come back later for more usual ones and get motivated to improve.

I am sure the vast majority of GT players play this game to have fun, not to learn how to drive or be competitive or whatnot. At first at least. Then a small part gets hooked and wants more and see what they could gain by getting better.

14 millions copies sold, only 200k max participants in a TT, 200k (being generous) playing sport mode other than TT on a regular basis. There is people to attract to sport mode. An easy TT can help, especially with the big credit reward.
 
Lomic
Do you really think that casual players that may enter TT on an easy TT opportunity are entering the TT to learn anything ??? No they see 2 easy millions and may find the TT idea fun and come back later for more usual ones and get motivated to improve.

I am sure the vast majority of GT players play this game to have fun, not to learn how to drive or be competitive or whatnot. At first at least. Then a small part gets hooked and wants more and see what they could gain by getting better.

14 millions copies sold, only 200k max participants in a TT, 200k (being generous) playing sport mode other than TT on a regular basis. There is people to attract to sport mode. An easy TT can help, especially with the big credit reward.
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Pretty much my point.

Where is the constructive pathway to improve?

TTs aren’t that, and that’s fine but this Daytona one is skill wise utterly useless.

The majority of players are just players.

It’s the ones that step up and want more, the same as the TT leaderboard they move up to the next level, for all the AI is and Sophy is it’s not ranked level racing.

So the question really is, would more people enjoy racing humans, rinsing the AI (I suspect this is what most want) or driving round in a circle?

Just to be clear on the numbers you have to measure active participants rather than total times on the board. It’s a lot lower in sports mode than that number, and reinforces my point and yours.

What makes it compelling to race people?
 
newmedia_dev
You will definitely see a down trend on Thursday, and I’ll be surprised if the AM has a really high gold count. Happy to be proven wrong though.
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well yeah...because the Daytona TT is seen as an easy way to get 2 million credits in a game where those opportunities are few and far between. The "normal" TTs are generally not such an easy way to get 2 million credits and therefore most of the extra numbers of people who jumped into the Daytona one will go back to ignoring the TTs because they aren't interested in the TTs and only wanted the credits.
 
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Gorefast
Hmm... surprising. Next time you're in sport mode take a look at the bottom of the page. Today there is a Gr.3 race at Barcelona (without chicane).
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It is too much for me too soon. I do not want to lead myself to a burnout:-) And also there is so much time I can dedicate to GT7 with all core responsibilities of life.

I also assume that what takes you an hr, will take me a day because I do not het have skills. I am building them.

So far I completed several CEs, done 4 TTs. I think from now onwards I will try to spend more time in daily races which is something I did not do yet. I have seen Manufacturer’s Cup, but I simply did not check what it is as I would not be able to focus on it.

On the other hand, I am genuinely amazed how many things does the GT7 offer! I need more time to gradually build my skills and understanding of the game, thanks to many people here, I can say I feel that this is the place where I belong and I enjoy all the interactions we have!
 
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Lightpilgrim
It is too much for me too soon. I do not want to lead myself to a burnout:-) And also there is so much time I can dedicate to GT7 with all core responsibilities of life.

I also assume that what takes you an hr, will take me a day because I do not het have skills. I am building them.

So far I completed several CEs, done 4 TTs. I think from now onwards I will try to spend more time in daily races which is something I did not do yet. I have seen Manufacturer’s Cup, but I simply did not check what it is as I would not be able to focus on it.

On the other hand, I am genuinely amazed how many things does the GT7 offer! I need more tome to gradually build my skills and understanding of the game, thanks to many people here, I cam say I feel that this is the place where I belong and I enjoy all the interactions we have!
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I tried to gold every TT after I started the game. I succeeded but some TTs took me a really long time, 20 hours sometimes. After about 3 months and a particularly grueling Bathurst Gr. 3 TT I was literally burned out and quit the game for a while. Now I have scaled back and accept the occasional silver and only start the game when I actually have the time for it.

Good on you to take care of what really matters first and fit the game into your life rather than the other way round!
 
Lightpilgrim
I also assume that what takes you an hr, will take me a day
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GT World Series is an online multiplayer series, with Manufacturers Cup (representing your chosen brand in a Gr3 car provided to you) running at the moment - race three of six today - and Nations Cup (driving whatever car you want from those eligible) later in the month.

As such, each race takes more or less the same amount of time for everyone, although how long you want to spend practising is up to you.
 
I just want 2m easy credits. If I cared about being competitive, I'd push to do it in a real car. Heck, I don't even have PS Plus, that's how little I care about testing myself against others.
 

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