Toe angle?
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- daveyules
if you set your car up with a toe out (-) the fronts of the tires will be pointing away from the center of the car. when you're in a turn and all the force of the car is pushing down on the outside tire, that tire wants to carry the car in the direction its pointing (which in this case is slightly outside where the car is pointing).
Hope that helps. If not, you can get my iPhone app that elaborates. link below.
Cheers
Hope that helps. If not, you can get my iPhone app that elaborates. link below.
Cheers
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Front:
If the car is difficult on initial turn in you can increase front toe-out. Almost any race car will have toe-out, only exception I can think of would be something like an old mini.
Rear:
Toe-in at the rear will help stability, normally if you take a really good and fast drivers setup, they will have less toe-in than a less skilled driver as it changes the neutral attitude of the car through the corner. More toe-in the less the nose of the car points in through the corner. Less toe-in(straighter) means the car points in nicely and although is slipping neutral it may even feel like oversteer which is fast but hard to control. A single seater will normally have more rear toe-in compared to a GT car as they are lighter, have more downforce.
Find the balance that suits you.
If the car is difficult on initial turn in you can increase front toe-out. Almost any race car will have toe-out, only exception I can think of would be something like an old mini.
Rear:
Toe-in at the rear will help stability, normally if you take a really good and fast drivers setup, they will have less toe-in than a less skilled driver as it changes the neutral attitude of the car through the corner. More toe-in the less the nose of the car points in through the corner. Less toe-in(straighter) means the car points in nicely and although is slipping neutral it may even feel like oversteer which is fast but hard to control. A single seater will normally have more rear toe-in compared to a GT car as they are lighter, have more downforce.
Find the balance that suits you.
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- SPFcobra88
Actually, as in real cars, front tire toe-in of up to 1" helps to stabilize the car on the straights. Too much toe in will make the car dig in in the corners. A slight toe out in the rear of up to .5 aids in making the car steer faster through a turn.
My experience in autoX seemed to confirm this. I've been using these values in GT5 and they seem to be helping. I just made a LOT of credits on the 'Ring with the Merc SLS using these values in addition to lowering, stiffer spring and damper settings, plus -1º front and -.5º rear camber on tuned suspension.
Try it, you'll like it.
My experience in autoX seemed to confirm this. I've been using these values in GT5 and they seem to be helping. I just made a LOT of credits on the 'Ring with the Merc SLS using these values in addition to lowering, stiffer spring and damper settings, plus -1º front and -.5º rear camber on tuned suspension.
Try it, you'll like it.
AutoX is low speed large input so maybe but having toe-out rear on any car that travels through high speed corners would require, either a driver with rocks for brains, a race engineer with rocks for brains, or a mechanic trying to kill the driver. My experience with Strakka Racing and Super Nova racing confirms this.
Yes Front toe-in will stabilize the car in a straight line and prevent it wondering, but the same thing can be done with toe-out, in a straight line they feel identical, and you can fix any problems it causes in corners with ackerman/parallel steer (but with modern day tyre grip levels it no longer necessary really, and not even changeable in GT5)
Yes Front toe-in will stabilize the car in a straight line and prevent it wondering, but the same thing can be done with toe-out, in a straight line they feel identical, and you can fix any problems it causes in corners with ackerman/parallel steer (but with modern day tyre grip levels it no longer necessary really, and not even changeable in GT5)
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