Tommy Kaira ZZll What will be of this Car?

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Looking at this car i was just wondering what will be the final fate of it come gt7? Cause in realty theirs really only two option on what pd will do with it? One kill it off :( or finally make it the premium we all been waiting for.

What do you guys thing will be the final fate of the Tommy Kaira ZZll In my opinion the best overall car in gt history. :dopey::)




Which brings up a question ? If PD cant get the interior of this car will they just kill it off?
 
I think standard cars are highly unlikely for GT7, as they would be the laughing stock of the industry (using assets that are 2 generations old, that already looked terrible on the previous generations).

I think they will be updating a lot of them, hopefully based on popularity and historical significance of the car. As the ZZII seems to be a quite popular car, I hope it would be one of the standards that will be saved.
 
We dont even know when/if GT7 will come out.
Kaz said he wants GT7 for late 2014 or early 2015...
I think standard cars are highly unlikely for GT7, as they would be the laughing stock of the industry (using assets that are 2 generations old, that already looked terrible on the previous generations).

I think they will be updating a lot of them, hopefully based on popularity and historical significance of the car. As the ZZII seems to be a quite popular car, I hope it would be one of the standards that will be saved.
I'd rather have 1000+ cars with some sub-premium quality, rather than just few cars with a lot of quality.
I suppose they will mosty update the standards to semi-premium quality.
The premium cars have already PS4 quality so they will keep them the same.
 
Kaz said he wants GT7 for late 2014 or early 2015...

I'd rather have 1000+ cars with some sub-premium quality, rather than just few cars with a lot of quality.
I suppose they will mosty update the standards to semi-premium quality.
The premium cars have already PS4 quality so they will keep them the same.
if we think of the standard cars as just a bonus there is no reason not to have them BUT
getting rid of them wont leave "just a few cars" already lots of premiums & hopefully they add more for gt7
 
Kaz said he wants GT7 for late 2014 or early 2015...

I'd rather have 1000+ cars with some sub-premium quality, rather than just few cars with a lot of quality.
I suppose they will mosty update the standards to semi-premium quality.
The premium cars have already PS4 quality so they will keep them the same.
We already have 400 premium cars and besides they'll add more via DLC and when GT7 comes out so don't freak out!
 
if we think of the standard cars as just a bonus there is no reason not to have them BUT
getting rid of them wont leave "just a few cars" already lots of premiums & hopefully they add more for gt7
We already have 400 premium cars and besides they'll add more via DLC and when GT7 comes out so don't freak out!
It doesnt matter, they should not get rid of all the great standard cars (there are many) just because they dont have a high quality modeling. They should keep all the most important ones and improve them at least to semipremium!
But yes, get rid of the repeated ones (miatas is the most obvious example)...
 
It doesnt matter, they should not get rid of all the great standard cars (there are many) just because they dont have a high quality modeling. They should keep all the most important ones and improve them at least to semipremium!
But yes, get rid of the repeated ones (miatas is the most obvious example)...
Dude no, they HAVE to be all premium. Yes, I want our standards to be updated but it NEEDS to be premium if it wants to stay in another generation!
 
You could have standard cars as DLC. 800 cars for £0.99.
That would be a very weird thing to do. People would hat having to pay extra for content that was already in previous games, especially if it is of very low quality.

It doesnt matter, they should not get rid of all the great standard cars (there are many) just because they dont have a high quality modeling. They should keep all the most important ones and improve them at least to semipremium!
But yes, get rid of the repeated ones (miatas is the most obvious example)...
I think there are also a lot of unnecessary standard cars (besides the duplicates). They should upgrade as many of the standards to full premium as they can possibly do, in order of importance and popularity, and then remove all other standards. Semi-premium is not enough, there shouldn't be cars of lower quality in the game.
 
Isnt the ZZII one of the "standards" that got a significant update in model and mesh?

Given that fact, and Kaz's apparent love for the car (Skyline drivetrain after all...) I doubt it will be dumped at any time.

Plus, as stated above, the TK brand is now owned by ASL, and they have a good relationship of working with PD over the years, so i seriously doubt that any licensing or other issues will crop up that would prevent its inclusion at a later date.
 
Dude no, they HAVE to be all premium.
That's a lot of man hours. So be patient.

Yes, I want our standards to be updated but it NEEDS to be premium if it wants to stay in another generation!
I'd rather them be there than not. Even if they meet the "semi-premium" area. Not only are they great fills, most of them are extremely fun cars. Since Tommy Kaira kind of only exists as a "tuner" now, although the remaining ZZ-II out there in storage I do believe is a ASL RS-01. Hope it exists still atleast after the tsunami incident years ago.
 
If Kaz wants GT7 out on the PS4 by 2015, then either he's going to have to take the Forza 5 route (less cars/tracks with more quality), or we might be stuck with standards again, unless he's already been secretly modeling all these standards to premiums and we just don't know about it.

If he goes the less cars, more quality route, I'm definitely hoping the ZZII is part of the bunch he chooses. I love that car.
 
If Kaz wants GT7 out on the PS4 by 2015, then either he's going to have to take the Forza 5 route (less cars/tracks with more quality), or we might be stuck with standards again, unless he's already been secretly modeling all these standards to premiums and we just don't know about it.

If he goes the less cars, more quality route, I'm definitely hoping the ZZII is part of the bunch he chooses. I love that car.
Even if Gran Turismo goes the Forza 5 route, we already have more than 400 premiums, and even more through DLC and the new cars PD will add to their next game, according to Kaz's Interview where the cars are already for the next-generation.
 
I'd rather have 1000+ cars with some sub-premium quality, rather than just few cars with a lot of quality.
I suppose they will mosty update the standards to semi-premium quality.
The premium cars have already PS4 quality so they will keep them the same.

Rather just have an actual Video Game not few shiny cars while the rest of the game is crap.
 
That's a lot of man hours. So be patient.


I'd rather them be there than not. Even if they meet the "semi-premium" area. Not only are they great fills, most of them are extremely fun cars. Since Tommy Kaira kind of only exists as a "tuner" now, although the remaining ZZ-II out there in storage I do believe is a ASL RS-01. Hope it exists still atleast after the tsunami incident years ago.
In the eight generation or video game consoles, the expectations for racing games are higher than before. Polyphony will look bad if their cars still had cars that don't have interiors due to being a semi-standard.
 
In the eight generation or video game consoles, the expectations for racing games are higher than before.
Expectations, let alone the expectations of this forum are impossible to meet. PD isn't a massive studio, it's large, but not massive. It's inhouse work. Work is tripled and it's extremely complex. Things of this current generation showed that expectations usually are not met. Racing games are very few, quality racing games on consoles arn't exactly common.

Curiously, do you work to prove every single customer you have meets expectations? Are you willing to double, or even triple your personal limits to meet them? Even if you're in a lose/lose situation with most of the base but you meet enough for the loyal returning base?

Polyphony will look bad if their cars still had cars that don't have interiors due to being a semi-standard.
Not sure why you and others are worried about the companies image. I can understand company support - unless you're employed by them. Support your product and if you choose to stand by it rather than demand of it.
 
If Kaz wants GT7 out on the PS4 by 2015, then either he's going to have to take the Forza 5 route (less cars/tracks with more quality)
Might as well. GT3 is still my favorite even with all the content reductions. It just drove better.
I've come around to FM5, finally got to play it with a wheel, and it's really a terrific game if ALL you really care for is the driving aspect.
 
The ZZ-II will not be the only car killed off if there is a "required interior route". Pretty sure the Furai will be history too.
 
Expectations, let alone the expectations of this forum are impossible to meet. PD isn't a massive studio, it's large, but not massive. It's inhouse work. Work is tripled. Things of this current generation showed that expectations usually are not met. Racing games are very few, quality racing games on consoles arn't exactly common.

Curiously, do you work to prove every single customer you have meets expectations? Are you willing to double, or even triple your personal limits to meet them? Even if you're in a lose/lose situation with most of the base but you meet enough for the loyal returning base?


Not sure why you and others are worried about the companies image. I can understand company support - unless you're employed by them. Support your product and if you choose to stand by it rather than demand it.
Polyphony might not be that large with 150+ people working over there, but you have to understand that all the cars in GT6 and its DLCs will arrive in GT7 according to Kaz. Additionally, there are issues the developer faces, such as the new sounds coming up and new aero kits. So if your favorite semi-premium car gets ported to GT7, it will most likely not have its sounds updated and has very limited aero kits except for a bunch of silly spoilers.
 
Expectations, let alone the expectations of this forum are impossible to meet. PD isn't a massive studio, it's large, but not massive. It's inhouse work. Work is tripled and it's extremely complex. Things of this current generation showed that expectations usually are not met. Racing games are very few, quality racing games on consoles arn't exactly common.

Curiously, do you work to prove every single customer you have meets expectations? Are you willing to double, or even triple your personal limits to meet them? Even if you're in a lose/lose situation with most of the base but you meet enough for the loyal returning base?


Not sure why you and others are worried about the companies image. I can understand company support - unless you're employed by them. Support your product and if you choose to stand by it rather than demand of it.
Thats pretty much what I said in another forum. If PD made a 100% realistic game nobody would play it. It would be too much. I appreciate GT as it is because who would of ever thought that 20 years ago you would be able to play a game that looks that amazing driving real cars on real tracks with each car driving and being its own. If you want 100% real get off your ass and do the real thing stop waiting for something to create this fantasy world you can go into and pretend to be something your not. Its a game. If driving sims were so easy to make the perfect game then why is PD pretty much the only company able to do this whey is there not 100 different choices in driving sims out there? Like first person shooters and GTA type games these games are getting a dime a dozen(also war games). I only know of 1 mabey 2 really worth while driving sim (and type) games I like playing and both have tons of people saying it sucks and it looks horrible, sounds horrible, not realistic. Those people the game will never be that for them they sit all day read comments and have to be the internet hater and complain and try to set these unrealistic expectations the game needs to achieve to be considered good in there eye. Mabey Kaz should just say the hell with it do it yourself since according to many he can't and don't know what hes doing.
All the complainers (not people who just mention little things, or wish list things we all do that, but people who just all out bash it and say its crap, waste of money) go play Pole Position on a 7800 for 6 months and I bet after an hour of listening to a car chirp you will take everything back and beg for a GT game. If you are too young to know what Pole Position is and a 7800 is let me know I have a working 7800 with a perfectly working game.
Sorry for getting off topic but seems like every forum ends up talking about how bad PD is and GT is.
 
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