Touring Car discussion - WTCC, BTCC etcTouring Cars

[jake2013guy]

Considering what they manage in the dry, I'd actually say nothing much more.

Haha. Yes. Remember Monaco was on the TCR calendar for this year initially.

 

[05XR8]

https://www.touringcartimes.com/2017/12/03/honda-drivers-currently-without-drives-2018-season/

 

[jake2013guy]

Title of the thread is WTCC. New name is World Touring Car Cup.
https://www.touringcartimes.com/201...made-official-wtcc-tcr-combine-two-year-deal/

 

[05XR8]

Best news today. WTCR looks fresh.

 

[jake2013guy]

Best news today. WTCR looks fresh.

HOWEVER:
150,000EUR and has to be a 2 car team for a season so no Duncan Ende 1 car team. According to Matt Neal, that's a pretty high entry fee.
Going to 3 races with 2 qualifying sessions and reversing the top 10 from qualifying in the other. Just have 3 races where you qualify for race 1, reverse the top 10 for race 2 and the same again for race 3. In fairness, I did have the criticism of TCR as well regarding the grid reversal process.

https://www.touringcars.net/2017/12/wtcr-feature-two-qualifying-sessions-three-races-2018

Apparently, the cost of TCR (for 2 cars) was 80,000EUR and WTCC was 78,000EUR. DOUBLE THE COST!

 

[C-ZETA]

This did seem pretty inevitable, but all I can say is: thank god for that.

 

[05XR8]

HOWEVER:
150,000EUR and has to be a 2 car team for a season so no Duncan Ende 1 car team. According to Matt Neal, that's a pretty high entry fee.
Going to 3 races with 2 qualifying sessions and reversing the top 10 from qualifying in the other. Just have 3 races where you qualify for race 1, reverse the top 10 for race 2 and the same again for race 3. In fairness, I did have the criticism of TCR as well regarding the grid reversal process.

https://www.touringcars.net/2017/12/wtcr-feature-two-qualifying-sessions-three-races-2018

Apparently, the cost of TCR (for 2 cars) was 80,000EUR and WTCC was 78,000EUR. DOUBLE THE COST!

The WTCC grids looked small the few times I've watched.

 

[jake2013guy]

The WTCC grids looked small the few times I've watched.

Correct. But doubling the entry cost per 2 car team is ridiculous. You want to increase the grids, don't jack up the price for teams to actually enter. As Martin Haven said, I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams looking towards series like the CTSCC, TCR UK or TCR Europe.

 

[Liquid]

Formula One: Bet you I can design the worst new logo!

World Touring Cars: Hold my beer.

 

[jake2013guy]

Formula One: Bet you I can design the worst new logo!

World Touring Cars: Hold my beer.

I thought that was a concept logo at first.

 

[05XR8]

Correct. But doubling the entry cost per 2 car team is ridiculous. You want to increase the grids, don't jack up the price for teams to actually enter. As Martin Haven said, I wouldn't be surprised to see more teams looking towards series like the CTSCC, TCR UK or TCR Europe.

Yeah, the TCR International thing is working so well. It"s a bit redundant to have "world" cup.

 

[flip55]

Formula One: Bet you I can design the worst new logo!

World Touring Cars: Hold my beer.

They... really didn't try there, did they?

 

[catamount39]

Formula One: Bet you I can design the worst new logo!

World Touring Cars: Hold my beer.

I didn't realize three different types of font counted as a logo.

 

[MatskiMonk]

Nice to see finally some sensible evolution in top line touring cars.

In other news... DTM back and Brands in 2018... good stuff.

 

[Carbon_6]

Formula One: Bet you I can design the worst new logo!

World Touring Cars: Hold my beer.

What program was used to make that, MS Paint?

 

[05XR8]

Looks like they copied the logo from the Astra

 

[Jimlaad43]

It's just the W from WTCC added to the TCR logo

 

[flip55]

It's just the W from WTCC added to the TCR logo

No, we understand where it comes from. Not sure they could've been lazier if they tried.

On a side note, is the YouTube streaming of TCR is going to continue? Or will it all be Eurosport who had the WTCC?

 

[jake2013guy]

On a side note, is the YouTube streaming of TCR is going to continue? Or will it all be Eurosport who had the WTCC?

Eurosport own it so I expect it will be on Eurosport.

 

[05XR8]

Australia need to get with the program
http://tcr-series.com/index.php/news/item/tcr-korea-series-to-be-launched-in-2018

If Adam Hammond were to approach James Moffat(who doesn't have a Supercar seat) and a few other Super2 drivers, I think it would set it off. Don't know what the hold up is, to get them in the B12H. Was talk of a couple European and Asian teams wanting to race here.

 

[flip55]

Eurosport own it so I expect it will be on Eurosport.

Well that's great news for us in the States... :/

 

[jake2013guy]

Well that's great news for us in the States... :/

See that's what I like non-geoblocked YouTube streams from a fan perspective and liked about TCIS. I could still watch races from 2015 or literally any TCIS race. Wish other series did it.

 

[05XR8]

Love this, Can't wait to see who will have the most manufacturers in any series.

 

[05XR8]

https://www.touringcartimes.com/201...port-deliver-first-i30-n-tcr-race-cars-teams/

 

[jake2013guy]

And the WTCC is laid to rest.

 

[05XR8]

 

[05XR8]

http://tcr-series.com/index.php/news/item/the-renault-megane-tcr-is-ready-to-start-testing

Thought I would be most excited about this car(this and the Honda, are neck ion neck), but I'm excited about TCR World. Which cars do best in each region, regardless of teams/drivers.

 

[jake2013guy]

The first customer (that I know of) for the Hyundai in TCR UK.

 

[jake2013guy]

Looks like Brisky aren't doing TCR UK next year.

 

[05XR8]

http://tcr-series.com/index.php/news/item/pirelli-world-challenge-to-add-a-tcr-class-in-2018
The Glen and Lime Rock will suit these cars. Can't wait to watch the action.