hey dont change the subject, well anyways i can race drift and you guys can grip all you want, but i know forsure my drifting time is way faster your gripping time, when i drift on trial mountain i hit 1:23 and when i grip i hit 1:22 on my S15, with SS tires too, you guys sucks because you used Sim tires and you think that drift with sim tire is going to win a grip car with SS tires, damn you guys need to get serious or else you wont learn anything, well anyways i dont need a team, im a solo drifter and for sure i can beat you guys with my drifting skills versus your gripping skills, i'll be using the same car as you guys are using, because if i use other cars, it wouldnt be fair or it wont show whos better, so bring on your time and say anything you want in this thread, im cool even if its other stuff, its a free country right?