Tyre Wear Bug Online??

[Ealirendur]

Yes that was it, but I'm not making excuses here, Koastr was very quick and deserved that win!! But it was very frustrating to watch him drive away while my tyres dropped off haha.

Thanks for your input Rotary Junkie, glad to know I'm not the only one with a few questions around tyre wear. It would be nice to know how tyre wear works because it seems quite inconsistent to me.
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I totally understand. I was curious about your experience, because, as you said, you had essentially controlled for most of the variables - and 5-6 laps difference is really quite a lot. I gathered that you would very likely have even had a race plan that was actually based on quali/practice, that got burned in-race. Real tire data would be lovely, wouldn't it?

It's possible that even changes to room quality could affect physics (this would be, uh, suboptimal*) - the online changes are widely reported, but it's awfully hard to quantify, so learning about weirdness like this is only going to happen steadily. See if you can get the host replay; I'd love to check it out (and yours, if you saved it). EDIT: I at least managed to get Koastr's (PAL) replay - it's in the raceonoz thread. 78MB! I will now no doubt devoutly wish we had fast forward/rewind ...

The plural of anecdote is still not data, but here is also something interesting.

Hell, I didn't even know that a) High Speed Ring Weather Change (Sunny - not fixed) is different to High Speed Ring (it's slightly moist) or that b) a high LSD accel value in an GT500 NSX would get me very dead there. I couldn't even play much online until I wired the damn thing, by which stage most of the aussie crowd have (quite rightly) disappeared into leagues

*It contains that which promotes growth, and it is very strong.

 

[friedi]

would say a bit driving like "jenson button" will help if you abuse the wheel like hamilton its natural to smoke the tires

you can controll the tire wear extremly with the gas and bit earlier breaking, laptimes will drop but you can go 2-3 laps longer

but hmm...

would say hard pushing with less "fails" are the fastest way

save tires is only a point in endurance races

 

[Cyber_stig_77]

I would like to vouch for small_fryz in relation to this issue , he is extremely consistent and proper fast (alien) , probably one of the fastest here in oz !! . I also raced in the race he is referring to and noticed a variation in tyre performance also. I don't think small_fryz was complaining about this effecting his result , it was more of an observation than anything else.

 

[Ghost Rydor]

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=220257

This has been one of my experiences...

There is certainly some weird things going on online these days.

I've had a guy teleport from about halfway round the track behind me to five car lengths in front of me.
I've had some weird stuff relating to tires going on as well, like my Kusabi reverting back to comfort softs or cars driving like comfort softs are on when they say they are not. Seems to occur sometimes after a pit stop. You go from setting lap records to wtf is going on here, my car can't even make it round the first corner.

The strangest thing I've seen was in a replay. 3 lap race, guy comes in to the pits on the 2nd lap, leaves the pits but when he does his tires start cycling from full tread to nearly no tread, constantly! I'm not talking about overheating I'm talking about tire wear. So this guy is trying to get around Road course Indy all the while as he attempts a corner his tire performance might go from full to zilch several times and it looks like what I was seeing was also effecting his cars handling as well as he was all over the place like a mad womens crap, even if he wasn't seeing the same thing on his tire indicators.

Definitely some weird stuff to be experienced although everything's been ok for me lately.

 

[Landbergaren]

In the racing series i participate I can keeop going as many laps as earlier. I am using racing hard btw.

Haven't noticed any bugs

 

[Small_Fryz]

but here is also something interesting.

That is very interesting indeed.

I would like to vouch for small_fryz in relation to this issue , he is extremely consistent and proper fast (alien) , probably one of the fastest here in oz !! . I also raced in the race he is referring to and noticed a variation in tyre performance also. I don't think small_fryz was complaining about this effecting his result , it was more of an observation than anything else.

Thanks mate 👍

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=220257

This has been one of my experiences...

Definitely some weird stuff to be experienced although everything's been ok for me lately.

Another interesting occurance.

I have also run enough of these races now to notice strange things and considering GT5 doesnt seem to be host based like a PC sim (where the server controls all info) its entirely possible to have people running on different "rules / physics" within a race.

Good example is when 2 drivers cant see each other but everyone else can. The drivers should either be in the race or not, all that data should be centrally managed then distributed to each user.

I guess its just another one of those random variables that makes things extremely hard to prepare for in GT5. I mean when your racing at the top of the pile and every tenth counts things like this can really throw a spanner in the works.

Thanks for speaking up guys, I knew others out there had to have done enough "league" races to find out some info as well.

 

[gtnoobie]

Maybe a bad batch of GT5 tires 💡 Should be a glitch. Thanks for the observation. If I suddenly encounter rapid tire wear online, I won't get unduly concerned. Just act like I am the broom wagon.

Whoever having questions about driving style or skills of SmallFryz should really read up a little. WRS Div 1 Gold = alien fast, smooth, clean GT racer. Also, he is quite a star on GTP for his driving speed/skills so I doubt the sudden tire wear has anything to do with bad driving.

Wonder if anyone else encounter the same.

 

[JamboGT]

First off, the "seriously" I used earlier in the thread had nothing to do with how good you are but all to do with the manner it had been put forward, not by yourself I must add.

In the championships I have taken part in and organised I personally have not had this issue or known of anyone to have it either. That said, obviously you are very good at the game and my suggestion would be that perhaps the connection to the host wasn't great and as such any amount of lag would cause your car to be out of position server side a small amount many times. What this could do is then have your car sliding back into place and wearing the tyres?

This may be a bit far fetched but is as good a reason as I can come up with. If this is the case it is a bit poor that tyrewear isn't calculated client side. However I guess there is no real way for us to know.

 

[MitchZ06]

Just because the OP is alien fast and consistent doesn't mean they don't have their off days....

 

[omegasc]

yesterday I was watching the replay from my last race, 33 laps on Fuji GT on SuperGT cars restricted to NA engine, 385hp and Racing Medium. My car was a Xanavi Nismo GT-R.
I entered the pits by the end of lap 15, and after that, until lap 18 my tire wear graphics were all crazy, going up and down! During the race I did not notice that, and while my car was a little loose on grip, I thought it was just a matter of the tires not warmed up yet.
from the other 6 drivers, only one had the same issue. I was on the same pace as the 1st until then, fighting with him until the pits. But then, until the tires stabilized, I lost around 7 seconds total on those 2 laps that the tires were unstable.

Have you guys noticed anything like that before?

 

[Timppaq]

Bad set of tyres?

 

[Small_Fryz]

Bad set of tyres?

Well it's true that the ferrari's don't like the hard compound tyre, I mean just look at Alonso

 

[Ghost Rydor]

yesterday I was watching the replay from my last race, 33 laps on Fuji GT on SuperGT cars restricted to NA engine, 385hp and Racing Medium. My car was a Xanavi Nismo GT-R.
I entered the pits by the end of lap 15, and after that, until lap 18 my tire wear graphics were all crazy, going up and down! During the race I did not notice that, and while my car was a little loose on grip, I thought it was just a matter of the tires not warmed up yet.
from the other 6 drivers, only one had the same issue. I was on the same pace as the 1st until then, fighting with him until the pits. But then, until the tires stabilized, I lost around 7 seconds total on those 2 laps that the tires were unstable.

Have you guys noticed anything like that before?

Yes, this.

The strangest thing I've seen was in a replay. 3 lap race, guy comes in to the pits on the 2nd lap, leaves the pits but when he does his tires start cycling from full tread to nearly no tread, constantly! I'm not talking about overheating I'm talking about tire wear. So this guy is trying to get around Road course Indy all the while as he attempts a corner his tire performance might go from full to zilch several times and it looks like what I was seeing was also effecting his cars handling as well as he was all over the place like a mad womens crap, even if he wasn't seeing the same thing on his tire indicators.

 

[nomis3613]

Small_Fryz, I don't have any experience like yours, but a couple of questions that might help you work out whats happening:

Did you start noticing it after an update? Maybe they fixed one bug but made another.

Is it a car from your garage? Time for chassis restore, perhaps?

 

[Small_Fryz]

Small_Fryz, I don't have any experience like yours, but a couple of questions that might help you work out whats happening:

Did you start noticing it after an update? Maybe they fixed one bug but made another.

Is it a car from your garage? Time for chassis restore, perhaps?

Not exactly.

from what i can gather the main things in common is large grid size and slim PS3. I suspect it might have sometihng to do with how the online is managed.

I did have the chassie refresh and engine refresh done just prior to racing.

Thanks Ealirendur, for your responses, they make the most sense indeed.

It seems to be a mix of people involved and the amount of lag generated to report the tyre wear back to the host. the most people in the lobby the worse the communication is and the more chance of a bug / anomaly appearing.