undecided-playseat or gameracer or ?

improved "gameracer" from Spain: http://www.zalem.es/
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or simply the best from my country:
 
I don't know, that tuned Gameracer looks very good and adjustable
Edit, in one of those pics it has inverted G27 pedals... definately beats the rinoseat.

What are you talking about?

- price 250+29+175=454€ ?
- heavy weight ?
- seating position too low ?
- no tilt adjustments (pedal, wheel) ?
- no Fanatec adapter ?
- compounds at a single point - clearance - looseness ?
- no real bucket seat (a matter of taste) ?

What are your criteria?
 
What are you talking about?

- price 250+29+175=454€ ?
- heavy weight ?
- seating position too low ?
- no tilt adjustments (pedal, wheel) ?
- no Fanatec adapter ?
- compounds at a single point - clearance - looseness ?
- no real bucket seat (a matter of taste) ?

What are your criteria?

Hey bubi, got some questions about that Gameracer seat from Spain.
First question, do they deliver abroad ?
And is the seat adjustable, for example raising the seat higher ?
 
What are you talking about?

- price 250+29+175=454€ ?
- heavy weight ?
- seating position too low ?
- no tilt adjustments (pedal, wheel) ?
- no Fanatec adapter ?
- compounds at a single point - clearance - looseness ?
- no real bucket seat (a matter of taste) ?

What are your criteria?
You are really biased, that 175€ is for what? So 250+29=279
Yes it does look pretty heavy though
Im sure seating position isn't too low
Is there tilt adjustments on the rinoseat?
Not many do a Fanatec adapter so the Rinoseat is better than an Obutto?
Those knobs look hard on and well have loads of adjustment
But it's an Indy seat that 'bucket' seat is fake on the Rino, they made it themselves, so no Recaro ect.
 
You are really biased, that 175€ is for what? So 250+29=279
175€ for seat (no incluye asiento, accesorios ni volante)

Yes it does look pretty heavy though
Im sure seating position isn't too low
Is there tilt adjustments on the rinoseat?
Not many do a Fanatec adapter so the Rinoseat is better than an Obutto?
You have no criteria, nor knowledge, only opinion.

Those knobs look hard on and well have loads of adjustment
Do you know what means: compounds at a single point - clearance - looseness

But it's an Indy seat that 'bucket' seat is fake on the Rino, they made it themselves, so no Recaro ect.
Have you ever seen the tubular bucket seat inside? Obviously not.
 
175€ for seat (no incluye asiento, accesorios ni volante)
Okay, I mis-understood that.

You have no criteria, nor knowledge, only opinion.
Well I do have a criteria and an opinion, to me criteria, the Rino suits me better, but in quality, that Spanish Gameracer thing looks better, as does the Obutto. The Rino is meant for people with little space, the Obutto is full sized, there is a difference but not that much in price. (Reno said 349€ to my door)

Anyway the Obutto is for those who have dedicated gaming rooms, so it won't be pushed around but left in one place. The Rino GTR is meant for those who game in there living rooms and will take it out and in.

Do you know what means: compounds at a single point - clearance - looseness
No not really, can you elaborate?

Have you ever seen the tubular bucket seat inside? Obviously not.
Yup, and it looks comfortable, but I didn't say that it was uncomfortable or anything and it looks sturdy. I never had an issue with that, the issue I had (not a big one) is that it isn't real. "Resembles the Position of a Recaro race car seat"

Keyword: Resembles, Rino made it, it is fake but sometimes it doesn't matter but the facts are:
A fake seat is less valueable than a real seat, do Rino make seats for race cars?

Im not saying the rino is bad, I'm actually likely to buy it but there are better out there is what you need to understand.
 
You might also want to consider the obutto ozone chair. http://www.obutto.com/home.html
I have the playseat evolution, and really like it, but the obutto looks like it would be better for the pedals. The playseat flexes a little under the g25 pedals. But if you never plan on getting anything but the dfgt pedals, then it will work out great. The playseat actually works pretty well with the g25 pedals, but I am upgrading to the fanates clubsport pedals, and am worried about the pedal plate on the playseat with them.

Anyway, the playseat will really work well with your setup. Don't worry about the bar in the middle, because it is almost unnoticeable, and after you get a few hours in on i, you won't notice it at all. The obutto does look like it's a little more solid, but the playseat looks more adjustable. The playseat also is a little cheaper. What really sold me on the playseat, was the free shipping through amazon. It saved me 100$.

That obutto seat looks awesome and affordable, but is it possible to not have the monitor stand mounted?
 
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