Unpopular Opinions- Cars in General

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I don't know if I'm articulating this very well, but I think it's very possible to be a 911 enthusiast without being a car enthusiast...and it bothers me. Don't get me wrong, the 911 should be celebrated as an enduring icon, but it's not the only icon out there.
Like it or not, the enthusiasts are the ones in the bubble, as a bit of a minority. Lots of people just want a nice shiny car to drive, and leave it at that without much second thought.

I'd go out on a limb and say that's entirely possible with owners of every make and model of sporty car, because that's what I see. While I don't get to hobnob with most nor many of the exotic car customers, even towards the less stratospheric spending limits, there's going to be plenty of owners that just want a fancy/cool/fast/different car without really caring much about the rest of the automotive industry, history, mechanical know-how, current sales spectrum, motor sports, et cetera ad infinitum.
 
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Like it or not, the enthusiasts are the ones in the bubble, as a bit of a minority. Lots of people just want a nice shiny car to drive, and leave it at that without much second thought.

I'd go out on a limb and say that's entirely possible with owners of every make and model of sporty car, because that's what I see. While I don't get to hobnob with most nor many of the exotic car customers, even towards the less stratospheric spending limits, there's going to be plenty of owners that just want a fancy/cool/fast/different car without really caring much about the rest of the automotive industry, history, current spectrum, motor sports, et cetera.
 

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Like it or not, the enthusiasts are the ones in the bubble, as a bit of a minority. Lots of people just want a nice shiny car to drive, and leave it at that without much second thought.

I'd go out on a limb and say that's entirely possible with owners of every make and model of sporty car, because that's what I see. While I don't get to hobnob with most nor many of the exotic car customers, even towards the less stratospheric spending limits, there's going to be plenty of owners that just want a fancy/cool/fast/different car without really caring much about the rest of the automotive industry, history, mechanical know-how, current sales spectrum, motor sports, et cetera ad infinitum.
Definitely. It just seems particularly...pointed...with the Porsche 911.
 
Definitely. It just seems particularly...pointed...with the Porsche 911.

I mean, it's still the only brand I've seen and overheard a customer that actually drove to the service department and causally complained about a metallic grinding noise at 150-160mph when downshifting at the end of a straight.

Everyone else: I have Bluetooth problems, but I left the phone at home, can you still fix it under warranty?
 
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I suspect this isn't terribly unpopular of an opinion, but I have seen it come up multiple times for literally every car I've put a stereo in (especially Ayeka IV) and I stumbled across it tonight while looking up stuff for a car I don't even own (yet) while browsing at work and it finally triggered me:



I do not care that you consider the car's exhaust note a suitable replacement for an audio system. I do not care about what variety of aftermarket exhaust/intake you put in that car that you are humble bragging about being better than listening to music. I do not care that you removed the audio system entirely because you wanted to save weight. I certainly do not care about your opinion regarding keeping a car (with a factory audio system that was kinda crap when new) stock regardless of what reason ("hurts resale value," "factory knows best," "you bought a sports car") you are bringing up to justify it. I also absolutely do not care your perspective on the importance of an audio system in a car when you take yours to car shows and (maybe) golf courses but otherwise never drive it.

If the forum thread is about something regarding "what are the best options for an audio system" in whatever the performance car in question is and your response falls under any of those categories, save yourself the effort of typing and instead shut the 🤬 up. And I say that as someone who has only ever used such threads as a guide to go do my own thing with installs, so I can't imagine how infuriating they are to the people who actually make the threads.
 
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Most people who modify their car's suspension (for performance reasons) are just throwing away money.

If you want to lower your car and get wheels with an aggressive offset for looks - knock yourself out (though I don't understand why you'd do that to something well-handling, but anyway).

But throwing thousands of dollars at coilovers (and combining those with aggressively offset wheels) will probably make your handling worse, if you don't pay attention to things like the scrub radius and roll centre.

If your performance car was developed on the Nurburgring, then just maybe there's a reason why it isn't 30cm lower, with flush-fitting wheels - which I'd wager a lot of people won't think about before dumping money on modifications for their track toys.
 
Unpopular opinion: Porsche can make a much better, more competent version of the Cayman/Boxster without it decreasing 911 sales. Here's how.

First, give proper it a double wishbone/multi link suspension mainly for momentum preservation around turns. Driving an enthusiast car as such is primarily about escaping perceived danger and endurance racing rules to whatever extent you want, which is low consumption/emissions driving to minimize need for pitstops for fuel, tires, etc. Lightweight means a less bumpy ride yet the strong agility and stiffer system of a heavier car without all of the extra complicated stuff in the 992 911 that would waste your time at the repair shop. Give it more body roll and a non power steering version (akin to the Alfa 4C) without heaviness, allowing for a better feel for when grip is at its limit; a more fun, exhilarating driving experience without the car being impossible for daily use.

Additionally, higher grip tires last less long. I remember automotive youtuber/F1 race driver Misha Choudarin claiming that a Toyota GR 86 with no power upgrade, only handling and exhaust sound mods, felt almost as quick as the recent 992 GT3 around turns. He claims that a modified GR 86 without power upgrade wasn't much slower around a turn as the previous 991 GT3. And the tires certainly were nowhere near as fat as on GT3.

Next, a linear decrease in the 0-60 acceleration time and mph is a exponential increase in perceived pushing force, but after maybe 5 quick accelerations will the driver realize that the car is easy to control from danger, such as spontaneous traction loss. The perceived danger will decrease quickly, so it may not feel as exciting. But in the process of gaining respect from fellow enthusiasts for driving a car perceived as superior, quick acceleration time is impressive to the less experienced enthusiast, which is nearly the entire audience which customer is trying to gain respect from.

In addition to the Cayman, there also ought to be a more budget-friendly Volkswagen version of the car, though it largely will retain the Cayman's styling and enthusiast spirit. It will have a naturally aspirated engine, and 0 to 60 mile per hour can happen in 5 seconds instead of 2.5 seconds that the flat 6 can achieve by turbocharging. Perhaps (only for the VW version), the engine should be a 2.0L inline 3, allowing for the lightest possible weight and a greater appreciation of sound between low and high RPM, with a Gordon Murray T50 style sound.

The flat 6 does not sound high pitched enough, and the inline 3 rpm can be better, which replaces the 1000 RPM decrease of sound where sound correlates with power linearly. If the power per RPM decreases 10%, it's not linear enough so it should not exist, except for the Cayman, giving a more dramatic driving experience without the lack of linear acceleration increase, which can be a negative for a more experienced driving enthusiast. A large difference between low rpm and high rpm can be created by exhaust flowing pressure more so through a base heaviness creating path at a low rpm, then pitch increase path at high rpm, with echos combining the engine sounds. Additionally, the sound of the VW version should be kept a little more raspy and unpolished to encourage more casual buyers toward the Porsche version.

Let's talk about Noise Vibration Harshness. This is only suppressed enough for it to not decrease the cognitive load after 90 mph driving for up to 4 hours. This way, perceived speed is maximized and weight is minimized by less anti-Noise Vibration Harshness materials, without any serious decrease to quality of life for casual drivers. Factoring in the reality that most drivers, even for an enthusiast car, will not be pushing the car to its limits, there should be an emphasis on reducing the general harshness of the driving experience. The noise indicating road conditions is more useful to know when grip is lower, so it should allow some of that level of noise from bumpiness, mirroring percussion instruments.

For models equipped with the manual transmission (which ought to be most), every time one shifts to a gear, let there be a "ping noise" of hollow metal like metal tapping on some of new Rolls Royce metal switches. Quiet, yet higher-pitched pings for higher gears, permitting the driver to be able to distinctively hear what gear one is in, both for auto/DCT and manual versions.

In marketing this new car, low-emissions driving as endurance racing-esque driving, and allowing momentum preservation instead of relying more on regenerative braking, the car be pitches as improving energy efficiency and longevity of parts for sustainability of large scale materials use rate in the long term. It will use cheaper, easy to replace materials marketed as "affordable sustainable low emissions" materials/systems like plastics and recycled metal. Even the exterior can consist of mostly easy-to-replace plastics.

The overall "beauty" of a car can generally be defined as the sum of its functionality and simplicity in its design, with a tertiary factor being svelte, timeless proportions, allowing for a more youthful look akin to the original Porsche 356. The Porsche version of the car will especially hone in on this type of styling compared to the VW which will demonstrate its beauty in extreme simplicity and glorifying functionality. Despite many sports cars adopting a more aggressive design, this new Cayman could appeal to people who like a car with more subdued, even "cute" styling- there's still some demand for these types of cars even today. Not to mention it will eschew a high-tech interior dominated by screens and technology for its own sake. For some buyers, its styling may be the primary reason why they buy this car. There can even be the option to have electric power steering creating a more floaty ride for these types of customers.

This will create an overall nice looking car, but may require open mindedness to truly appreciate. Such as how the Tesla Cybertruck almost looks good in a weird way that many dislike. The Aptera motors coupe and some of the newer Priuses are also good examples. These will be perceived as cheap, aesthetically spartan, and symbolic of efficiency and economy. The VW version can be named something like "Volkswagen Play" or "Volkswagen Up Sport Coupe" (as the Up is already the brand's cheapest, simplest hatchback). Give it faint non bold or bright /dark colors, fewer iridescent colors, etc. Its doors will close with an echo-like sound.

The VW version can feature front lights similar to the new Prius, combining the thin rectangle main headlights synonymous with Genesis (not daytime running light) replacing the circle main headlights and the daytime running light next to it below the top crab-claw one. It should look like a single claw overall, a continuous, unbroken 3 lines per side, where the lower part just so happens to glow brighter because they are the main headlights. It will look like a cheaper car than the Porsche to differentiate the two products, but it would still look good; an efficiency-focused aerodynamic look, 2 silhouettes in 1 car by aero-plastic bubble covering a weight-minimizing shape. The rear end, in contrast, would look more similar to the Cayman.

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Alternatively, the front-end of the car could pull off a more "cutesy" look resembling economy cars of the sort (first gen Twingo or Dodge Neon), while the rear looks more utilitarian. The Prius LM racer from GT5 is what I am envisioning for the VW version's overall silhouette.

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There will be no leather materials in Volkswagen version, but this will be optional for the Porsche. I'll go as far to say that people over glorify leather in sports cars, despite that its too hot in warm climates and too cold in cold climate; the air conditioning and heater needs to work harder to fix these problems which reduces battery life and requires a heavier battery to reduce battery degradation per energy flow. This will also motivate the driver to remember to heat/cool the car by remote functionality, some time before getting into car if they do not want to wait for heating up or cooling down while in the car. Buyers complain about leather cracking after lot of use, despite that aged leather can be seen as a sign of quality and longevity.

For the VW version, make the wheel size smaller and wider tires for less harshness and bumpy ride, increasing efficiency and more consistent grip. While the VW version will have smaller wheels, the Cayman will have the option for larger ones for customers who prioritize aesthetic over overall driving feel. The car should have a Gordon Murray T50-like seating system, even its posture, allowing efficiency, no adjustable seats, to give reason for older buyers to opt for the Porsche version for Volvo-like electric power seats.

While the new Cayman will stay in its existing price range, the base trim of the VW version should be aggressively priced (around 40k-ish), with a base version almost totally focused on being cheap to run long-term and simple driving fun, with a decreased pour output. The I3 may only produce 150-200hp here but this will be greatly offset by its very low weight and grippy feel (and for some drivers, the lack of power steering). It will mirror the Aptera in spirit.

For the Porsche version, it's crucial to keep in mind that some of these types of customers do not want such exciting high effort high driving reward experience, but also don't want something as large, refined, or expensive as the 911. It is much more about gaining respect from especially non car enthusiasts who mostly care about the car's looks. Of course, there will be a high-performance GT4 (or maybe even GT3) trim which will guarantee quicker race track lap times and quicker acceleration than its predecessor. Quicker track time and acceleration quickness excitement still appeals to some less experienced driving enthusiasts. It's sound should be more base heavy, lower pitch lower harshness, for an overall relaxing drivetrain sound. A bit more harshness in the Volkswagen version will be appreciated for being exciting by purists, while being felt as harsh by more everyday drivers. More pronounced steering tilt during turning, braking, accelerating for dramatic, old-school feel in the Volkswagen version, while the Porsche version is more refined in general.

I know this may be TLDR and my ideas are still a work in progress but I'd like to know if this is a viable option.
 
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Since I'm basically using this as a rant thread anyway, a Youtube video set me the hell off last night so much that have to get this out of my system. And I do suspect this will be unpopular (though not so much an opinion) because I still see suggestions for it on all number of automotive forums. The type of car has been changed from the YouTube video to protect the uploader who does a fantastic service to the community he serves and I don't want any hate directed his way by some asshole who stumbles across this post from a Reddit link 6 years from now, and I'll use an example that's much more egregious anyway than that one because this one is extremely expensive and is documented to destroy the power delivery of the car it's installed in:

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🤬 off. I know that engine bay. You know what that snorkel on the end of that giant sealed plastic box on the right connects to?



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That giant, sealed duct. What's on the other side of that giant, sealed duct?

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Literally outside.

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Wow, look how extremely not connected to outside air that
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is. Look how airtight the gap is around that flat piece of carbon fiber that divides the right cone filter (that is 3 feet away from the air intake hole) from the rest of the extremely hot and cramped engine bay. Note how there definitely isn't a hot radiator fan and shroud between the air intake hole and the right cone filter and inches away from the left cone filter.

"But I like the increased sound," I can hear you say, either not caring that you're destroying the fat midrange of your car that already doesn't have that much horsepower for its displacement or believing it's more powerful now because it's actually just really peaky at the top of the rev range.



Well, you're in luck, because you can easily remove the resonator from the sealed airbox with the humongous paper filter larger than the two cone filters combined:
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And it will dramatically increase the low RPM rasp to near air-cooled levels while actually increasing airflow and giving the engine a howl over 5000 RPM. You could then probably put a K&N in there or something and get even more noise out of it. I don't care what seat of the pants feeling you think you have gained. I don't even really care if you think it sounds better and that justifies it even if there's a performance hit. A cone filter (or two, or three) does not mean you have installed a cold air intake. It does not mean you have improved airflow. It does not mean you've improved performance.




I urge people on automotive enthusiast forums telling people who ask about "easy performance bolt-ons" to rip out their factory intakes and put some $500 giant cone filter that if you're lucky replicates functionality the car already had:
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And had done for 30 years already:
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And at worse, gives you something that's probably worse:
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Than what you already had:
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To just stop. I understand there's no sex appeal to OEM, and I'd be a hypocrite to say that looks aren't a factor in these things. But almost always they are suggested as performance upgrades when they simply are not, haven't been for some time and never were for some classes of cars.


Don't misunderstand me. There are factory air intakes that the powertrain is pushing against the limits of the intake system because of design constraints:

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Or that just plain need more filter area and less tubing for higher trim levels with substantial performance boosts:

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Or just cannot handle pulling the amount of air required by the engine to the engine with one element alone:

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But if nothing else is taken from this, take this:
Even if there's no sex appeal to OEM, if it's a fuel injected car with any sort of performance overlap made since 1985, the company that built it probably put some sort of effort into getting ambient temperature air from outside of the engine bay into the air intake. Unless you're doing (in some cases significant) supporting modifications, the only performance increase you'll get from simply swapping the filter on a car will be from weight reduction from your wallet; and simply slapping a cone filter in place of the manufacturer's plastic box filter is almost certainly doing more harm than good. If your car has a tuner version, there's even an easy way to tell.

Let's say you have this car:

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You want just a bit more oomf than your (outrageously oversized, semi-sealed factory cold air) intake can provide.

Should you buy this thing:

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It looks cool. It claims to be a cold air intake (it technically is because the factory one also was, but it almost certainly has less filter area than the factory one and isn't sealed from engine bay heat at all), so that should move the meter on your large displacement 300HP V8, right?

Well, what did Lotus use when they upped the ZR-1 to 405HP the year after your engine debuted?

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Oh.


Well, what about the Lingenfelter 415, which took a ZR-1 and $40,000 1998 dollars (on top of the cost of a ZR-1) and returned 640 horsepower and 7500 RPM from that same engine (340 more horsepower and 1700 more RPM than yours)? Did that use an elaborate set of cone filters?

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Oh.





It's expensive enough to be a car enthusiast nowadays without people spouting "common knowledge" things (that had shaky factual foundation 30 years ago) as truisms in 2025 so companies can line up to sell you snake oil. If the benefit was as easy to achieve as "put a cone filter from Autozone on a plastic tube", they would have done it in the first place.
 
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Is it controversial to say that the general quality of Ferrari designs have been much less consistent since they stopped working with Pininfarina? Granted, I do think some modern Ferraris that were designed in-house do indeed look stunning, like the Daytona SP3, and I even like the design of the 296. But I can't say things have really been the same without Pininfarina.
 
If the benefit was as easy to achieve as "put a cone filter from Autozone on a plastic tube", they would have done it in the first place.
Years ago a friend of mine took a stock Volvo redblock air filter, disassembled it and spread the paper on the tarmac. About twice as long as the car. It's not hard to figure out that if the "upgraded" air filter with its puny little surface area flows as well as the original it doesn't filter out just about anything, or if it does match the filtering level it simply can't flow because it has to be several times as thick. They're often called squirrel filters around here because that's pretty much the smallest particle they'll catch.
 
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