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US might employ anti-missile missile against N Korea
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danoff
utter rubbish,
biased shyte as usual...
you know nothing about N Korea....you dont know how ready they might be...
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I have hard time imagining U.S. following through with this, but it would be really cool. I just hope it works. Missile shield technology is a unproven technology, so it would a good test for sure. I'm all for it.
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Are you implying that if we shoot it down, they'll go all out on South Korea and Japan? Please explain, so rest of us idiots can understand.TurboSmoke
Danoff
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^^ For that reason, I'd have posted a cnn citation if they would just carry the story. But for some reason, they don't seem to think it's news.
I think it's news.
Fox has a video of Condi talking about the situation, they have graphics of the potential trajectories, they have folks analyzing the North Korean response and delving into the treaty. Where is cnn on this?
MSNBC is on the ball: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13361343/
Google's got it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/20/AR2006062001120.html
BBC doesn't seem to care so far.
CNN is still lagging - top story WORLD REFUGEE DAY!!! Whoopidoo!!
I think it's news.
Fox has a video of Condi talking about the situation, they have graphics of the potential trajectories, they have folks analyzing the North Korean response and delving into the treaty. Where is cnn on this?
MSNBC is on the ball: http://www.msnbc.msn.com/id/13361343/
Google's got it: http://www.washingtonpost.com/wp-dyn/content/article/2006/06/20/AR2006062001120.html
BBC doesn't seem to care so far.
CNN is still lagging - top story WORLD REFUGEE DAY!!! Whoopidoo!!
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I'm disturbed how little "news" is left on most programming blocks of CNN; it's become as bad as local TV, minus the investigative reporting.danoff
This is quite serious news; we're looking to seriously piss off the nation North Korea, and rightfully so.
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CNN has it, it's tops in the Asia section.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/20/nkorea.missile.reut/index.html
EDIT: You're probably using the American edition of the page, whereas I'm on the international version. In which case, you'll need to search a bit; World News -> Asia -> 2nd story in the list.
In any event, CNN is using the Reuters story, so since it's on the wire I'd expect all major news outlets to pick-up the story and supplement it as it develops.
http://edition.cnn.com/2006/WORLD/asiapcf/06/20/nkorea.missile.reut/index.html
EDIT: You're probably using the American edition of the page, whereas I'm on the international version. In which case, you'll need to search a bit; World News -> Asia -> 2nd story in the list.
In any event, CNN is using the Reuters story, so since it's on the wire I'd expect all major news outlets to pick-up the story and supplement it as it develops.
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But that's a 2-hour Anderson Cooper exclusive!
Truth be told I don't know how much more coverage I'd want or expect from a story that says US turns Missile Defenses from 'Test' to 'Operational' and will neither confirm nor deny they will attempt to intercept test missiles from North Korea, who itself will neither confirm nor deny they are testing their long-range missiles.
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Oooh AP has also picked up the story here and it's the Top story in the "More Stories" list to the right of the headline, which continues to be "U.S.: Soldiers' bodies mutilated"
Truth be told I don't know how much more coverage I'd want or expect from a story that says US turns Missile Defenses from 'Test' to 'Operational' and will neither confirm nor deny they will attempt to intercept test missiles from North Korea, who itself will neither confirm nor deny they are testing their long-range missiles.
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Oooh AP has also picked up the story here and it's the Top story in the "More Stories" list to the right of the headline, which continues to be "U.S.: Soldiers' bodies mutilated"
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Why do we care about a bunch of starving munchkins massing at the border with giant fircrackers ? Just send them a few McDonalds and its game over.
I would ...if I was in charge ..shoot the damm thing down and tell them that I was testing my anti missile. Just to make a point . If they bitch I just remind them that they said they were not test firing a missile so how could we have shot it down ? We have been working on anti ballistic defense systems since Reagan...I'd like to see what trillions of dollars gets us .
I would ...if I was in charge ..shoot the damm thing down and tell them that I was testing my anti missile. Just to make a point . If they bitch I just remind them that they said they were not test firing a missile so how could we have shot it down ? We have been working on anti ballistic defense systems since Reagan...I'd like to see what trillions of dollars gets us .
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It gets us this...
We need to send over a couple of these fine beauties to fly over South East Asia.
Shoot down the missile in its boost faze, and send it back down to North Korea.
EDIT: Oh, and it really exists, too...
We need to send over a couple of these fine beauties to fly over South East Asia.
Shoot down the missile in its boost faze, and send it back down to North Korea.
EDIT: Oh, and it really exists, too...
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dbartucciBecause the source is Fox News and is therefore automatically biased and rubbish.
exactly..
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Hmm, I don't think there's any question America would defeat North Korea in any type of conflict. In particular, most of the American weapons systems are designed for conflicts with other nations and armies. Consider a few examples from the past: facing armies in WWII - decisive win, facing guerilla tactics in Vietnam - not so good, facing Iraqi army in 1990's - crushing victory, facing insurgents in 2000's Iraq - not so good.
Here, America's primary objective isn't to attack or provoke North Korea, but prevent an escalation of conflict because it's not America that N.K. will target but South Korea or arguably more likely, Japan. N.K. has already test fired a missile over Japan once. If a missile is intercepted, would North Korea go back to the drawing board or send a few more "tests" to Japan and S.K.?
Here, America's primary objective isn't to attack or provoke North Korea, but prevent an escalation of conflict because it's not America that N.K. will target but South Korea or arguably more likely, Japan. N.K. has already test fired a missile over Japan once. If a missile is intercepted, would North Korea go back to the drawing board or send a few more "tests" to Japan and S.K.?
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If you immediately think that because it is Fox News it must be biased and rubbish then I can only assume that you didn't actually read the story because this is how the story begins. I even highlighted the parts that make my point in order to save you the trouble of reading too much.TurboSmoke
Must be pure Fox News bias since they are just re-reporting someone else's story. I could go through and highlight statements like, "The report says," and, "The report quotes."Fox News Story
Did you even bother reading this? Can you quote the article and show me the bias and rubbish? In fact, do you watch any Fox News that isn't considered and labeled commentary, such as Bill O'Reilly and Sean Hannity?
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Now they want to talk to us alone:
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200374,00.html
but apparently we're not willing to sit with them without a few other nations present:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/21/nkorea.missile/index.html
http://www.foxnews.com/story/0,2933,200374,00.html
but apparently we're not willing to sit with them without a few other nations present:
http://www.cnn.com/2006/US/06/21/nkorea.missile/index.html
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You mean giving them cash and military secrets isn't the way to deal with this?Swift
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But how many troops are still occupied in Iraq at the moment, how many resources are set on that situation right now. Beacuse now isn't the ideal time for another fight to start, well theres never an ideal time but you get the point. If N.Korea's long range missiles are effective then who knows how it will pan out, even with your anti missile programme, how many missiles can you protect yourself from? At the end of the day, the single most important thing to do is to not escalate the situation into one where any missiles are launched at least over any national borders. At the moment the news is interesting but theres not enough conclusive information to start thinking about how it will pan out.dbartucci
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NK cant even fart and get away with it. The US has enough missiles to destroy the world about 100 times over...NK is a pimple on the worlds ass..but a smart pimple thats just playing the system set in place by the appeasers..they will push to get free stuff as long as they keep getting away with it. When someone is actually willing to DO something about them they will go away and starve like nice munckins or actually develope a system to feed and clothe themselves that works ...instead of resorting to blackmailing the world to make up for there own shortcommings..no pun intended.
@ TVR ..The US with conventional methods alone could bomb NK into oblivion with little or no casualties ..to the US . What stops it is our allies SK and Japan who would bear thhe brunt of any NK response . Thats why we also will not sit down alone with them . Unlike Britain at the Munich conference we will not give another countries rights away ...nor will we negotiate their future without them at the table . The US has learned something from WW II . We just have to keep reminding the rest of the world every once in a while .
@ TVR ..The US with conventional methods alone could bomb NK into oblivion with little or no casualties ..to the US . What stops it is our allies SK and Japan who would bear thhe brunt of any NK response . Thats why we also will not sit down alone with them . Unlike Britain at the Munich conference we will not give another countries rights away ...nor will we negotiate their future without them at the table . The US has learned something from WW II . We just have to keep reminding the rest of the world every once in a while .
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Seems to me this kind of posturing is nothing new. NK fires or threatens to fire a missile or further develop their nuclear problem and everyone freaks out, so they go to the UN Security Council (in particular China's support) for a resolution or treaty that says No more testing missiles and then everyone calms down. Then NK does it again claiming the most recent test doesn't violate anything and the process is repeated.
The people who are really harmed by the process are North Koreans who get slapped with economic and trade sanctions over the actions of their one-man dictatorship goverment, at least in my opinion.
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live4speed you quoted the part where I said the US could defeat NK and probably would do so, but not the part where you agreed with my statements that the goal of this exercise is diplomacy and negotitations and de-escalation.
The people who are really harmed by the process are North Koreans who get slapped with economic and trade sanctions over the actions of their one-man dictatorship goverment, at least in my opinion.
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live4speed you quoted the part where I said the US could defeat NK and probably would do so, but not the part where you agreed with my statements that the goal of this exercise is diplomacy and negotitations and de-escalation.
. But yeah I do agree with you.
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Swift
noted.
hold on, does this mean i'm off the Christmas card list...
