US on the door step of martial law?

[Zenith]

Unless you're shooting only military-grade ammo in the US, I think that would be quite ineffective.

By "military grade" do you mean some of the cheapest bulk ammo shooters can buy? Because "military grade" ammunition is pretty basic and underperforming. It is a mainstay for cheap fun for this reason.

Either way, the point you're responding to is moot. Manufacturers deal with government and commercial supply differently.

Anyways, AFAIK ammo have an expiration date in the military and in paramilitary units. Maybe their current stock needed replacement.

That's not how it works. Manufacturers make and sell ammunition on contracts. It's not like government organizations get their decade's worth of ammunition in one shipload of cartridges with a "best before" date slapped on there.

 

[Agent_47]

Unless you're shooting only military-grade ammo in the US, I think that would be quite ineffective.

Anyways, AFAIK ammo have an expiration date in the military and in paramilitary units. Maybe their current stock needed replacement?

P.S: a solar flare powerful enough to destroy trasformers would also **** up our ecosphere badly. What's most likely to be affetted is communication nets. It would be problematic, but not apocalyptic.

Well what do you mean by 'military-grade' ammo? You cannot find, for example, .223 Remington or 9mm Luger ammo, anywhere. I can hardly find any .30-06 for hunting. The shelves are pretty much bare aside from odd and end stuff and shotgun shells. I haven't been able to get any .22 in over a year now.

The paranoid loonies who think they're going to outlaw guns and buy everything on the shelf don't help either.

But the US is NOT on the doorstep of martial law.

 

[ClydeYellow]

Well what do you mean by 'military-grade' ammo?

Ammo currently in the catalog of the US armed forces, like the 5.56mm M855 ball ammo.

I doubt the US armed forces have any weapon that fires the .30-06 ammo. Current low availability may be caused by a sudden rise in demand (that may be caused, in turn, by fears that the specific kind of ammo may be outlawed) rather than the government trying to remove ammo from the market by buying in bulk.

 

[a6m5]

I can't believe there still is ammo shortage, over a year later, but if this was some kind of government conspiracy, I expect the manufacturers to be the first to raise the alarm. Instead, I keep reading about how they are pumping out as much as they can, but they just can not meet the demand.

I think we simply exhausted the existing supply & now that they have sold more guns than ever, combined with hoarding & scalping, it's taking (way)longer than we expected for the supply to catch up with the demand.

 

[Ryanswannell]

So, I'm curious to know if anyone is tracking this. To date, DHS and the Border Patrol have stocked up on MRAPs, M113's, and literally billions of rounds of ammo.

I heard about this back in November I think, and some person said that these weapons and ammo would be used to depopulate the USA. I'm not sure if this is what you or others are getting at also, but who would be willing to shoot these bullets at innocent civilians? Also, with the population of America being as large as it is, how would a conspiracy group manage to go through America and shoot people covertly without being overpowered?

Again, I'n not entirely sure if this is what you are getting at, but this topic just reminded me of an earlier conversation to a conspiracy theorist 👍

DHS and FEMA have been staging mock attack and martial law exercises and many former DHS agents have come out and admitted that DHS is working on staging an actual martial law event in the US. Do you suppose that the these are simply harmless training exercises as FEMA and DHS present it, or are those former agents and conspiracy theorists closer to the mark? Unfortunately, I can't help but feel, considering events within America, as well as around the world, that the CT's might actually be on to something this time. Let's discuss.

I'm not entirely sure what "martial law" is, but after a quick search for a definition I see it is "military government, involving the suspension of ordinary law". So, I assume it is where an "army" of sorts takes temporary charge of an area/country under special circumstances, such as during invasion perhaps?
Maybe the training has always been done and no one has really picked up on it, maybe the government or whoever just decided it needed doing because they haven't done it for a while, or maybe they just know something we don't.

With regards to FEMA, about a week ago in the "Illuminati Conspiracy Theory" thread here on GTP, someone (now banned) said that "we" were going to be put in FEMA "death camps", although he had no evidence to prove this when repeatedly asked (hence he is now banned ). So when he said that, I used the same argument as above, "who would be willing to take part in this organisation, and how would they be able to do it in such a way that the population of the USA doesn't fight back?". No answer.

So in short, I don't think that there is some sort of conspiracy going on, but maybe, just maybe they know something that we don't 👍

 

[DrPuppetwarrior]

Why can't you guys act more like canadians.

 

[Rallywagon]

I heard about this back in November I think, and some person said that these weapons and ammo would be used to depopulate the USA. I'm not sure if this is what you or others are getting at also, but who would be willing to shoot these bullets at innocent civilians? Also, with the population of America being as large as it is, how would a conspiracy group manage to go through America and shoot people covertly without being overpowered?

Again, I'n not entirely sure if this is what you are getting at, but this topic just reminded me of an earlier conversation to a conspiracy theorist 👍



I'm not entirely sure what "martial law" is, but after a quick search for a definition I see it is "military government, involving the suspension of ordinary law". So, I assume it is where an "army" of sorts takes temporary charge of an area/country under special circumstances, such as during invasion perhaps?
Maybe the training has always been done and no one has really picked up on it, maybe the government or whoever just decided it needed doing because they haven't done it for a while, or maybe they just know something we don't.

With regards to FEMA, about a week ago in the "Illuminati Conspiracy Theory" thread here on GTP, someone (now banned) said that "we" were going to be put in FEMA "death camps", although he had no evidence to prove this when repeatedly asked (hence he is now banned ). So when he said that, I used the same argument as above, "who would be willing to take part in this organisation, and how would they be able to do it in such a way that the population of the USA doesn't fight back?". No answer.

So in short, I don't think that there is some sort of conspiracy going on, but maybe, just maybe they know something that we don't 👍

The FEMA death camps I think arose from a coffin manufacturer in the south east end of the US. They were storingblarge amounts of casket liners on a rented lot. They are basically large, plastic coffins, for actual coffins to go in, or so the official report goes. Well, and that Jessie the ace Ventura show. Though, to his credit Jessies show was aboutba lot more than just disposable coffins.
And about the coffin liners. I've gratefully only attended a small amount of burials. None of them used a liner. Is this common practice elsewhere in the states or any country? I've never heard of anyone using a coffin liner...
Material law, is basically the removal of democracy, and replacement of military rule. It is reserved only for large scale national issues, such as being attacked onAmerican soil by a large military force or huge, natural disaster. However, it has also been enacted on a small scale several times, the most recent of which was the Boston Marathon bombing.

I can't believe there still is ammo shortage, over a year later, but if this was some kind of government conspiracy, I expect the manufacturers to be the first to raise the alarm. Instead, I keep reading about how they are pumping out as much as they can, but they just can not meet the demand.

I think we simply exhausted the existing supply & now that they have sold more guns than ever, combined with hoarding & scalping, it's taking (way)longer than we expected for the supply to catch up with the demand.

I haven't followed up on this in a while, so I am not sure if the shortage is over, or if its just been going on so long that its old news, like high gas prices (which I am actually all for). However, a couple of years ago is a different story. I'll cite my info when I'm not on my phone if anyone hasn't read about this, but it was shown that DHS and the Border Patrol bought billions of rounds, mostly 9mm, 5.56, 7.62 and a fair amount of .45 and .50. It was estimated that the amount they bought could sustain a war like Vietnam for 20 years.

 

[TenEightyOne]

The FEMA death camps I think arose from a coffin manufacturer in the south east end of the US. They were storingblarge amounts of casket liners on a rented lot. They are basically large, plastic coffins, for actual coffins to go in, or so the official report goes. Well, and that Jessie the ace Ventura show. Though, to his credit Jessies show was aboutba lot more than just disposable coffins.
And about the coffin liners. I've gratefully only attended a small amount of burials. None of them used a liner. Is this common practice elsewhere in the states or any country? I've never heard of anyone using a coffin liner...

Not really a liner, it's just used (mostly by Americans) to prevent subsidence following physical interment.

In the UK we're not generally worried about that, but we had churches looooong before slip'n'trip lawyers

 

[a6m5]

I haven't followed up on this in a while, so I am not sure if the shortage is over, or if its just been going on so long that its old news, like high gas prices (which I am actually all for). However, a couple of years ago is a different story. I'll cite my info when I'm not on my phone if anyone hasn't read about this, but it was shown that DHS and the Border Patrol bought billions of rounds, mostly 9mm, 5.56, 7.62 and a fair amount of .45 and .50. It was estimated that the amount they bought could sustain a war like Vietnam for 20 years.

Ammo shortage is still ongoing, but it's actually become the ".22 Long Rifle Shortage". .22LR is not commonly used by the U.S. Government(maybe not at all, officially), so I think we can safely say that effect the large ammunition contract by the Department of Homeland Security had on the ammo shortage was nothing major. Even the NRA magazine article actually defended this ammunition purchase by the department, explaining how many different agencies were involved with this purchase & how they go through tons ammo just in training & exercises.

Just passing on the info. I wouldn't know either way on this conspiracy theory.

 

[Dotini]

There are several possible reasons that would justify imposition of martial law across the nation:
Terrestrial
- Eruption of Yellowstone caldera volcano covering 75% of nation with lava and ash. Probability near 100% over time.

The possibility of this happening sooner rather than later appears to have risen. Viral Youtube video of bison fleeing park, rising ground and recent earthquake swarms raise concern:

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

The possibility of this happening sooner rather than later appears to have risen. Viral Youtube video of bison fleeing park, rising ground and recent earthquake swarms raise concern:

Dotini, since you bring this up you'll be consumed by it too you know...

There now I feel better knowing that if I'm going so are you . The only reason I know this is cause I saw the top 10 major earth destroying disasters on History and then Discovery as well had a similar show.

 

[Ryanswannell]

The possibility of this happening sooner rather than later appears to have risen. Viral Youtube video of bison fleeing park, rising ground and recent earthquake swarms raise concern:

April fool's joke ?

I've often wondered, when this Volcano does erupt, should it be next year, a hundred or even a thousand years from now, what are the results actually going to be, if anyone knows at all? Will it really create an apocalyptic mess across the globe, or even across the whole of the USA? Didn't it last erupt 640,000 years ago? I'm sure the human race existed back then amongst other mammals and animals and guess what? Were still here.

Don't get me wrong, I have no feats on my resume for this topic, but I can't see a volcano covering most of the USA in molten lava and producing enough ash to cause death to people around the world. But maybe I'm missing something?


Also, one of the articles mentions that earthquakes occur at Yellowstone around 20 times a day (or was it a week?), although they are USUALLY below 3.0 on the rhictor scale (sp?). Now maybe I'm wrong, but even earthquakes at that level would cause animals to become a little distressed wouldn't it?

In addition to that, I thought the ground was always rising over there, so unless the rate of the ground rising had accelerated dramatically I don't think this is too unusual. Basically, what I'm saying is I bet this has happened before many, many times in the past 👍

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

April fool's joke ?

I've often wondered, when this Volcano does erupt, should it be next year, a hundred or even a thousand years from now, what are the results actually going to be, if anyone knows at all? Will it really create an apocalyptic mess across the globe, or even across the whole of the USA? Didn't it last erupt 640,000 years ago? I'm sure the human race existed back then amongst other mammals and animals and guess what? Were still here.

Don't get me wrong, I have no feats on my resume for this topic, but I can't see a volcano covering most of the USA in molten lava and producing enough ash to cause death to people around the world. But maybe I'm missing something?


Also, one of the articles mentions that earthquakes occur at Yellowstone around 20 times a day (or was it a week?), although they are USUALLY below 3.0 on the rhictor scale (sp?). Now maybe I'm wrong, but even earthquakes at that level would cause animals to become a little distressed wouldn't it?

In addition to that, I thought the ground was always rising over there, so unless the rate of the ground rising had accelerated dramatically I don't think this is too unusual. Basically, what I'm saying is I bet this has happened before many, many times in the past 👍

I suggest you go watch the movie Pompeii, then multiply it by 10 and span that across America. After all that has been done sadly write a touching letter that will be used in the future to tell your American friends how much they meant to you...

 

[Dotini]

I suggest you go watch the movie Pompeii, then multiply it by 10 and span that across America. After all that has been done sadly write a touching letter that will be used in the future to tell your American friends how much they meant to you...

Mankind may be cruel, stupid and prone to unwise choices. But somehow we all subliminally assume there is a beneficent guiding hand of providence, fate (or aliens in the mantle) at work which assures our success on Earth and uniquely blesses our species.

Maybe one of these days we'll wake up and find it's not so!

So each day given to us here on Earth, we should perhaps count our blessings and our friends, and make the most of the life that we have.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Mankind may be cruel, stupid and prone to unwise choices. But somehow we all subliminally assume there is a beneficent guiding hand of provenance or fate at work which assures our success on Earth and uniquely blesses our species.

Maybe one of these days we'll wake up and find it's not so!

So each day given to us here on Earth, we should perhaps count our blessings and our friends, and make the most of the life that we have.

Forget that we're screwed if it goes, no skin off the earth's back. Then after the sun appears again the insectoids will rise up and be the new intelligent life. Oh and of course we should be thankful for each day.

 

[Rallywagon]

Actually, if it does go, it will be some skin of the earths back. Not sure about the bison leaving, or the ground rising, well any faster than it has been, but I do know that the earthquakes aren't an April fools joke. Last week the biggest earthquake to hit the park in a very long time struck. Though, that report said scientists weren't worried.

 

[MrSulu]

http://www.infowars.com/what-would-an-eruption-of-the-yellowstone-supervolcano-look-like/

Some parts may be exaggerated.

There's a piece if gold in the comments section, some guy thinks the the planet will explode like a balloon being popped!

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

Actually, if it does go, it will be some skin of the earths back. Not sure about the bison leaving, or the ground rising, well any faster than it has been, but I do know that the earthquakes aren't an April fools joke. Last week the biggest earthquake to hit the park in a very long time struck. Though, that report said scientists weren't worried.

Earth will be in tact, and the lava flow will harden and re-compact what ever vegetation it destroyed and since volcanic soil and/or ash is fertile it probably do much more in the long run for the planet than the short term destruction. So...once again no skin of the Earth's back, it will still be here and we mostly wont.

 

[Rallywagon]

No, I still contend it will be. I'm not saying the earth will somehow destruct like a balloon, nor that it won't heal. But. It will still blow a good size hole in its crust. There for, it will be like losing some skin.

 

[Vegard]

Is gun blow...

The Illuminati/Obama WILL blow up Yellowstone and we're all going to die, again. No really, this time it's true.

/JK

Seriously, InfoWARS?

- The first casualty of war is always the truth.

 

[LMSCorvetteGT2]

No, I still contend it will be. I'm not saying the earth will somehow destruct like a balloon, nor that it won't heal. But. It will still blow a good size hole in its crust. There for, it will be like losing some skin.

No it really doesn't work like that since there is this thing called lava, that then hardens and what not. Yellowstone is full of lava fields that are quite abundant with soil and vegetation and not apocalyptic craters that you see in the Nevada desert from Nuclear testing.

 

[DK]

It also helps that a volcanic eruption doesn't release radioactive fallout.

 

[Rallywagon]

Nonsense! Humans scab and heal and can have their back skin removed, but can grow it back. I see parallels in this concept.
DK, your right, no radioactivity, unless its Japan, then there might be. But hey, who needs radioactivity when you have all sorts of sulfurs and and acids in the ash cloud that would cover most of America and would undoubtedly wrap around the globe, also choking out much of the sun for a good many years. Heard of the dark ages? It was caused by something similar.

 

[Dotini]

It also helps that a volcanic eruption doesn't release radioactive fallout.

I'm not so sure. What about the case where the effects of a volcanic eruption causes cooling to fail at a nuke plant, with a subsequent unwanted release of radiation?