Vintage Muscle Car Series (Taking Entries!!)

[kenkwilinski]

"Win on Sunday, Sell on Monday!"
Vintage Muscle Car Series

This is a little bit of a revival of a 60s70s NASCAR series I was hosting a few months back.
Series will begin September 25th. Races will be held on Sunday nights @ 9pm cdt.
Race nights would include one group of cars.
You will not be asked to develope only one car during the series.
There will be a list of cars and as long as you choose from the listing you are okay.
So changing cars race to race will be fine.
Series format shall be simple. Points system will be simple. Simplicity will be key to this series.
And prize cars, tickets and paint, etc. will be awarded to winners.

Cars tuned to 550pp Racing Hard Tires

No penalties, no damage, no asm, no skid recovery & no active steering.
ABS allowed, TCS allowed & driving line allowed.
Grip Reduction set to Real & Fuel Consumption / Tire Wear is ON
NO Boost or False Start Check
Room will be open 30 minutes prior to race.
Ten minutes before scheduled start track will be reset for a 10 minute qualifying session.
First race will start fastest first.
Then second and third races will be set to Reverse Grid based on Previous Results.
No points for pole for the day, sorry.


Any race incidents that are blatant must be brought up to me!

Points
1st - 16
2nd - 15
3rd - 14
4 - 13
5 - 12
6 - 11
7 - 10
8 - 9
9 - 8
10 - 7
11 - 6
12 - 5
13 - 4
14 - 3
15 - 2
16 - 1

Points nice and tight will make for some exciting racing for the Championship!!

Car List

Ford Motor Co.
Trans-Cammer
Mustang Mach 1
Shelby GT350R
Cougar XR-7

Chrysler Group LLC
Superbird
Super Bee
Challenger R/T
Cuda 440 Six Pack
Charger 440 R/T

General Motors Co.
Camaro Z28
Pontiac GTO
Camaro SS
Chevelle SS
Buick Special

Cars tuned to 550pp Racing Hard Tires

Schedule

Series will start 9/25 @ 9pm cdt / Preseason this Sunday @ 8pm cdt

Vintage LeMans pre-season race #2 (Prize Race) 9/11 @ 8pm cdt (this Sunday)

Speed Week #1 9/12 - 9/17 - Look for me online tuning at Daytona or hosting a lobby at various road courses

Off - 9/18 (my Anniversary) - Tune your cars and keep up with the thread!!!

Speed Week #2 9/19 - 9/24 - Look for me online tuning at Daytona or hosting a lobby at various road courses

Series start date - 9/25 @ 9pm cdt

Week 1 (9/25)
Daytona 20 laps "Daytona 500"
Daytona Road 10 laps

Week 2 (10/2)
Indy 15 laps "Brickyard 400"
Indy Road 10 laps

Week 3 (10/9)
Daytona 24 laps "Coca Cola 600"
Laguna Seca 5 laps

Week 4 (10/16)
Indy 19 laps "Southern 500"
Monza (No Chicane) 6 laps


Week 5 (10/23) - Championship!!
Daytona 15 laps "Winston 500"
Circuit de la Sarthe 2005 (No Chicanes) 3 laps
Hi Speed Ring 10 laps

Please leave your feedback !

Drivers
JLawrence / GTP_SpitRacer / Cuda
kenkwilinski / CrAzY bAsSiSt 83 / Chevelle
Caravan / Bkmar495
redmalloc / GTO_malloc
FishHunters / Flsurffisher
tfed / tfed
DoWhat13 / DoWhat13

Standings

See you all at the finish line!

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[kenkwilinski]

Example of the car classes (based off of months of vigorous testing at Daytona). note that I still need to test at Indy. This is just a thought. I may switch to just one car list and run unrestricted. I feel these 2 groups work well for Daytona. I'm not sure at Indy, I have tested there but not 100% complete. And as for a road course a pp level will probably be prefered. Now that just over complicates things so I'm going to try to keep this as simple as can be. So this is just an example and is deemed to change.

CLASS 1
828hp 998kg
avg. solo top speeds 205mph - 215mph
avg. 43sec - 44sec laps

AC Cars 427 S/C
Trans-Cammer
Superbird
Cougar XR-7
Pontiac GTO
Ford GT40
Super Bee
Mark IV Race Car
Mustang Mach 1
Art Morrison Corvette


CLASS 2
823hp 1055kg
avg. solo top speeds 195mph - 205mph
avg. 45sec - 46sec laps

Challenger R/T RM
Challenger R/T
Chevelle SS
Stingray L46 350
Corvette C2 Coupe
Camaro SS
Charger 440 R/T
Shelby GT350R


Other cars not listed would fall into this placement:

CLASS 3
Unrestricted
avg. solo top speeds 220mph +
avg. 41sec - 42sec laps

Shelby Cobra 427
Buick Special
Z06 Race Car
Cuda 440 Six Pack


CLASS 4
583hp 1085kg
avg. solo top speeds 190mph - 195mph
avg. 47sec - 48sec laps

Corvette C3 Convertible
Camaro Z28
Camaro Z28 RM




or drop the slow classes, therefore combine 1 & 3 but drop the Cobra's & Buick

 

[kenkwilinski]

Another thought I had with this would to maybe have a championship tier. For example winner's of Kalmiya's Trans-Am Series race along with JLawrence's Vintage Sports Car Series and the winner's of this series, Kinda wrap the 3 series together in the end for an all out Race of Champions Event. Then they could receive some kind off bad a$$ title and could be sanctioned by the ORB???

 

[kenkwilinski]

Something off-topic a little:

Who wants to throw down sometime this week?? I would like to do a Vintage LeMans Race. Anyone else? Just like 5 laps at Sarthe. Cars allowed: GT40, Mark IV, 2D Race Car, Z06 Race Car, Camaro Z28 RM, Challenger R/T RM, AC Cobra, Shelby Cobra, Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2 carrozzata...., & Ferrari P4.
Maybe we can gain some interest this way?


I threw this out there in the Spot Racing section:

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5753480#post5753480

 

[JLawrence]

You know im in

 

[Caravan]

Yes, sounds good.

PSN: Bkmar495

 

[kenkwilinski]

You know im in

Yes, sounds good.

PSN: Bkmar495

Cool, I updated the OP

 

[kenkwilinski]

CAR LIST
UNRESTRICTED
AC Cars 427 S/C (Good for Daytona)
Trans-Cammer (Good for Daytona)
Superbird (Good for Daytona)
Cougar XR-7 (Good for Daytona)
Pontiac GTO (Good Everwhere)
Ford GT40 (Good Everywhere)
Super Bee (Good for Daytona)
Mark IV Race Car (Good Everywhere)
Mustang Mach 1 (Good Everywhere)
Art Morrison Corvette (Good at Daytona)
Z06 Race Car (Good at Daytona & Indy)
Cuda 440 Six Pack (Good at Daytona)
Charger 440 R/T (Good for Indy & Road Courses)
Camaro Z28 RM (Good for Indy & Road Courses)
Shelby GT350R (Good for Road Courses)
Challenger R/T RM (Good for Indy & Road Courses)

Thinking of this, but is definitly deemed to change.

Every car here has its own strength's and weakness'

This would break down to typically this......( just recommended, you don't have to abide by this. )

Daytona
AC Cars 427 S/C
Trans-Cammer
Superbird
Cougar XR-7
Super Bee
Art Morrison Corvette
Z06 Race Car
Pontiac GTO
Ford GT40
Mark IV Race Car
Mustang Mach 1
Cuda 440 Six Pack

Indy
Ford GT40
Mark IV Race Car
Mustang Mach 1
Z06 Race Car
Charger 440 R/T
Camaro Z28 RM
Challenger R/T RM

Road Courses
Ford GT40
Mark IV Race Car
Mustang Mach 1
Charger 440 R/T
Camaro Z28 RM
Shelby GT350R
Challenger R/T RM

 

[kenkwilinski]

Here's a starting event maybe we can hook-up with this one and start racing?!.......

1967 World SportsCar Championship Round 7
35th Grand Prix of Endurance
-24 Hours of LeMans
7 of 8 Rounds of the International Championship for Sports-Prototypes & SportsCars Div.2&3

Track Edge Real, Mechanical Damage Light,
Penalties Off (cheaters will be kicked & disregarded) & No Chicanes

Unrestricted Tuning & Tires

Date/Time: ???? TBD
5 Laps - May add a few more laps if decided by majority.

Prizes awarded for winner in each Division (Prototype, SportsCar & Grand Touring).
Run any car you want listed, if everyone is in prototypes then there is only one winner.
But if say everyone runs a prototype except one driver, then that lower classed driver would automatically win a prize as long as they finish the race. I'm really only expecting the Prototypes & SportsCar classes to get filled. Just trying something different and it's Unrestricted, so go crazy!!

Cars allowed:
Prototypes: GT40, Mark IV, 2D Race Car, 2J Race Car, Toyota 7 & Ferrari P4 Race Car
SportsCars: Z06 Race Car, AC Cobra, Shelby Cobra, Jaguar XJ13 Race Car & Alfa Romeo Giulia TZ2
Grand Touring: Camaro Z28 RM, Challenger R/T RM, Stingray L46, Mach 1, GT350R & Ferrari 512BB

Be sure to check this for a follow-up series (Vintage Muscle Car Series this Fall):

https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?t=219105





This poster is up in the Spot Races Thread, link: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5753480#post5753480



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[redmalloc]

This sounds like fun. Depending on actual schedule and based my availability, I'd like to join.

 

[FishHunters]

Likin' the idea! Interested just depends on day of the week!

 

[kenkwilinski]

added poll to thread & updated OP with drivers list

 

[kenkwilinski]

I wanted to promote this series by having en event at la sarthe, and that's what all that Vintage LeMans post is about. And there seems to be some more hype in that thread. Not that it matters, but I would like to possibly recruit those guys in to this series. As of right now we have 6 guys and would like at least 6 more. The schedule I'm trying to work out on the Vintage LeMans thread (which will be our first race, kinda a preseason) is like this:

Sunday night ~8pm cdt till no later than 9:00-9:30pm cdt
crazy
dowhat
marlux
SpitRacer
GTO
maybe...Knelly??
maybe...akmuq??
maybe...diaba??


and of course, I still need to hear from Furi, GTM, Bkmar & Flsurffisher.


Also, I'm curious as to car choices you guys will be making. Are we all driving prototypes for the most part?? Just want to know if I should add a few more cars there??

Poster here:
https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5753480#post5753480

 

[kenkwilinski]

Pretty much whatever schedule I decide with on the Vintage LeMans race will determine the day we will race this series.

 

[kenkwilinski]

Series will start 9/25 @ 9pm cdt / Preseason this Sunday @ 8pm cdt

Vintage LeMans pre-season race #1 (Exhibition Race) 8/28 @ 8pm cdt (this Sunday)

Vintage LeMans pre-season race #2 (Prize Race) 9/4 or 9/11 @ 8pm cdt

Vintage LeMans Link: https://www.gtplanet.net/forum/showthread.php?p=5753480#post5753480

Speed Week #1 9/12 - 9/17 - Look for me online tuning at Daytona or hosting a lobby at various road courses

Off - 9/18 (my Anniversary) - Tune your cars and keep up with the thread!!!

Speed Week #2 9/12 - 9/17 - Look for me online tuning at Daytona or hosting a lobby at various road courses

Series start date - 9/25 @ 9pm cdt




Official Car & Track List & Schedule Soon to Come!!!



Send your Friend Requests to me over the PSN a.s.a.p.!!!

 

[kenkwilinski]

I moved this thread over to the Clubs & Leagues Section since I put some things in stone.

Scratch that, I moved it to the Racing Series Forums.

 

[tfed]

I would like to join in any of these races.
My psn: tfed

 

[kenkwilinski]

I might do a performance level with this series of about 600-620pp. I need to do further testing to confirm this. This would be to just tighten the top speeds of all the cars a little better. But most of the cars on the list hold tightly together. So this pp setting would not really make much of a noticeable difference to your car or performance. Most of these cars are from 580pp-620pp already.

 

[kenkwilinski]

I would like to join in any of these races.
My psn: tfed

I added you to the list and will send you a FR tonite!

 

[JLawrence]

I dunno if you're wanting us to decide on cars, but I will be running one or both Cobras

 

[kenkwilinski]

I dunno if you're wanting us to decide on cars, but I will be running one or both Cobras

No, I was planning on running this loosely as possible. You won't be asked to develope only car. You can switch cars in-between every race for all I care, as long as it's on the list. Example - Run the Cobra at Daytona but run the camaro at indy or the camaro on a road course but the mach 1 at Daytona. Any combination is fine. A good reason for this would be say if everyone is in a camaro at daytona i'll drive the gt350r but say everyone takes the cobra at daytona I'll hop in the Z06. This way kinda gives everyone a little advantage without one driver having a total advantage throughout the night.

 

[kenkwilinski]

I'm still undecided if I should leave the tuning unrestricted which I know will work good or if I place a 600pp limit on all cars on the list thus limit some engine power to the beastly cars. Any opinions?

 

[kenkwilinski]

Updated OP

 

[kenkwilinski]

Took race #3 out for each week. No custom tracks. Just 1 oval & 1 road course a night.

Edit:

I'm also thinking of dropping some cars out of the list.

 

[kenkwilinski]

I was thinking of giving this a makeover. Take a look in a few and tell me what you think.

Was also deciding on a new car list

May look like:

Trans-Cammer
Superbird
Cougar XR-7
Pontiac GTO
Super Bee
Mustang Mach 1
Cuda 440 Six Pack
Charger 440 R/T
Camaro Z28
Shelby GT350R

So I would eliminate Race Cars and RM's, keep it just street cars that ran NASCAR (Dodge,Chevy,Ford)


Also to kill the overpowering Cuda, Superbird, SuperBee, Cougar, Mach 1 & Trans Cam I am thinking of putting a pp limit on this. I think a limit of 560-580pp would be sufficient. I don't think a HP & KG restriction would work well here. I will further test this before I place this restriction upon this series.

 

[kenkwilinski]

I dunno if you're wanting us to decide on cars, but I will be running one or both Cobras

I kind of want to drop the Cobra and stick to 60s70s NASCAR stock/street cars. But this is all up in the air and subject to change. Would you have a second pick if this is decided?

 

[kenkwilinski]

Racing at LeMans this Sunday at 8pm cdt

 

[kenkwilinski]

I cleaned up the car list, sorry no vettes or cobras and added a performance level of 550 so the cars listed will only top near 200mph while driving solo. Also regulated Racing Hard Tires.

 

[JLawrence]

Dibbs on the Cuda!

 

[kenkwilinski]

Anyone else have their car selected? I'm probably going with the Chevelle SS