Weight Transfer

[MoNkEy_MaGiCx]

when you brake the weight transfers to the front correct???and when you acclerate it shift to the back.......and stuff happens......or something like that.....


EDIT: yes i know im an idiot......

 

[DarkEvoMaster]

During a curve, after you use one of the many techniques to drift (excluding reversal drift or 360 drift and some I forgot the names, which I would doubt you know what drifting technique these are, don't ask), the weight of the car is transferred to the front or to the rear or to the left side or to the right side of the car thus losing grip (traction) making you able to slide by wasting your tires which becomes the grayish smoke you see when someone performes a drift. This is the simplest way I can find to explain weight transfer.

 

[wellyrn]

when you are parked the weight is evenly distributed between the 4 tires (roughly, some cars are better than others)

when you accelerate the weight moves to the rear and off the front

when you brake the weight moves to the front wheels and off the back

when you turn the weight moves to the outside wheels and off the inside wheels

to see it for yourself try maxing your cars ride height, minimize the springs and soften the shocks. now drive and watch which way the body leans as you drive. the direction its leans is where the weight is moving. more weight on a tire= more traction.

if you still dont understand you are likely in elementary school and will understand when u get your licence.

 

[nk4e]

Well, from what I understand about drifting, weight transfer (the noticable kind, from right to left "lateral") is only going to effect your vehicle under two conditions.

1. Your weight distribution is severly off (e.g. 70/30)
2. Your suspension is either undercompensating or overcompensating for the movement.

Number two usually only applies in actual exhibition displays but this game is so realistic that it will apply here too. You spend the money on a customizable suspension system, yet you might not fully understand what it's capable of.

If you are wondering about the effects of the weight transfer in general than just think about it like this, your car is can only have 100% of it's own weight at one time. So speaking in a literal sense, if you soften your suspension, decrease your stablilizers and soften your shock bound and rebound than you can drift well, but it will take more to accomplish that since your soft shocks will absorb the momentum of the turn. Resulting in a left-right weight transfer of 70-80% and in some cases greater. Adversly, if you stiffen the same attributes (above normal stiffness of course) than you will notice that your car (even the infamous 4WDs) will lose traction almost effortlessly. The only downfall is that, at least on the track, you are sacrificing that crucial control needed to balance your car on that knife edge that is known as stylistic drifting.

As far as drawing out your weight transfer graph and telemetry, you are asking people who have never seen your car and can only try to replicate it on their own systems to predict what it is going to do in a turn or drift. That is nearly impossible, not to try to bust your bubble, I know how frustrating it is, but, my suggestion is to run your car a few times with various suspension settings to see what how your car behaves and what it likes.

In essence
Weight transfer effects your car greatly in a turn, but that's only one thousanth of one percent of the variables in a successful drift.

I hope you could follow that, because I just broke it down to the short and sweet, in the Corps we have a saying

KISS

Keep It Simple Stupid

That's the simplest way I could think to describe it, if you still have questions, PM me or just ask on this thread and I'll get back with you ASAP. Or 15 minutes prior to that LOL,
Sorry a bit of Marine humor, it's a Devil Dog thing HAH!!! Just playing around.


Semper Fidelis and Good Luck To You,
Shadow Drifter

nvm, i just read the date on his post

 

[wellyrn]

im a new member and i havent been drifting too long. I had a look around and found mostly threads like this: person asks a question, 20 people offer thier uninformed opinions failing to answer the question. I answer the question and then some mod or someone tells me its an old thread and to let it die. Well 'scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, maybe if you actually got rid of old threads with questions and no answers a new person could actually find some useful information. Unlike the last post which is not very accurate (like the other attempts at explanation before it). So just in case anyone (like me) stumbles accross this thread i thought Id answer the question so they arent wasting thier time (like i apparently am).

 

[felix4787]

im a new member and i havent been drifting too long. I had a look around and found mostly threads like this: person asks a question, 20 people offer thier uninformed opinions failing to answer the question. I answer the question and then some mod or someone tells me its an old thread and to let it die. Well 'scuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuuse me, maybe if you actually got rid of old threads with questions and no answers a new person could actually find some useful information. Unlike the last post which is not very accurate (like the other attempts at explanation before it). So just in case anyone (like me) stumbles accross this thread i thought Id answer the question so they arent wasting thier time (like i apparently am).

By time you bring back a 6month old thread, the original poster is probably either long gone, or already knows the answer. So what's the point?

 

[nucesone]

you guys are sad ass ****

 

[Swift]

you guys are sad ass ****

I suggest you change your attitude before something not so nice happen.

 

[maggkrabar]

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[Dnorth-Guardian]

I've only recently mastered the concept of wieght shift and that was in my POS 92 tempo. MY daily trip to the hockey rink includes a gravel road that is always covered in snow or mud so its always driftable. In my tempo i have no ebrake and Front wheel drive so all i can do is weight shift of one kind or another. Today i drifted totaly sidways through the opening in the fence and almost crapped my pants but it was totaly worth the physics lesson!

 

[XanManAE86]

Reading through this, it seems that people are making weight transfer way to difficult to understand. Basically, when you shift weight, your suspension will allow the body to shift certain directions, appyling more or less pressure to one of your 4 tires. A braking drift uses weight transfer effectively by transfering most of the weight to the front from the rear, allowing the lighter rear end to come around towards where the front is, but you wouldnt want it to come around completely because thats not drifting, thats just spinning out. And a feint drift shifts the weight from either the left side or the right to the opposite side, one shifting the weight, and two using the inertia of the car to go around the corner sideways, because it wants to continue going the same direction. yes i do realize this is an old thread.

 

[Touge's Darknes]

What i think about weight transfer is that it does not have to do with feint drifts or anything like that. Feint drift is completely different to weight transfer techniques. Now weight transfer is when you press the brakes softly and not too much so the car wont go under (or understeer), then the rear wheels will start to lose traction as the front gains the traction. then you will have the opportunity to start to steer less than you usually do and start drifting. i was thinking about it and imagined it in my mind.

 

[Valve Timing]

feint does have to do with weight transfer .. when you are swinging a car from side to side the weight of the car is going with it. When you use the (feint drift) technique you are using the the weight of the car to push it through the turn.. If i'm wrong someone correct me

 

[Xtreme Drifter]

weight tranfers means to where you are moving your weight, by example, when you brake, your weight goes to the front of the car, letting the rear with less weight (less traction), when you turn right, your weight moves to left, the interior tyres have traction, when you accelerate your weight move to the rear, causing your tyres to have more traction. Drift is all about loosing the traction of tyres, and there are techniques that don't need weight tranfer like e-brake drift or the kick clutch, and there are others that the weight transfer helps you loosing the traction, like braking drift (when you enter a turn braking your weight is in the front, and if you stop braking, and instantly acellerate, you're going to slide).

Weight transfer is all about transfer the weight to varios points of the car, and the better you use it, the better are your times.

 

[194GVan]

feint does have to do with weight transfer .. when you are swinging a car from side to side the weight of the car is going with it. When you use the (feint drift) technique you are using the the weight of the car to push it through the turn.. If i'm wrong someone correct me

You're absolutely correct. Weight transfer has EVERYTHING to do with feint drifting. Feinting IS weight transfer, in a side to side motion, used to help you break traction for a drift.