What great cars are missing in GT7 vs all the classic garage queen fluff that will see little to no mileage in the game?

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Do you think GT7 has too many cars that are just game fluff that you will almost never drive?

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Cars are fine but not enough events. More events with multiple ways to achieve a win. Upgrading cars, detuning cars, using different cars, whether it be a cars speed, acceleration or handling that makes it a good choice for an event. This is present in GT7 but we need more of it.

The game is full of great content in terms of both tracks and cars and there are literally 100s of combinations that can create great events suitable for both offline and online.
That’s what gets people talking about cars, the strengths the weaknesses and can make people try cars that they wouldn’t otherwise bother with.

Another way to utilise all the cars in the game is to bring back Shuffle Racing. It was a well liked mode and great fun. It also enabled people with less skill have a chance to win more races if they got a good car. Why it only lasted for one release in the series baffles me.
 
MikeUD06
I voted yes, but not for the reason you may think: For me, the "fluff that I'll never drive" are all of the hypercars and most of the racing cars. Give me more '70s-'90s street cars, please.
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This is also how I feel. All the GR cars could have just been under the Extreme tuning tab as Race mods and I honestly just don't have any desire for the fictional hyper cars. Im not opposed to their inclusion but certainly not at the expense of real cars. GT has always been about real/street/homologation cars to me and this game needs a lot more of them.
 
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MikeUD06
I voted yes, but not for the reason you may think: For me, the "fluff that I'll never drive" are all of the hypercars and most of the racing cars. Give me more '70s-'90s street cars, please.
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I love the Hyper cars. I like to Time trial them at High speed ring and slowly but surely get better and better times.

Agreed on the 70s to90s street cars, Some JDM 90s cars too. My dream is Fords, Cosworth, Mk1 onward escort, RS200, RS500, Zakspeed Escort and Capri racers. Lotus and Caterham too.
 
We really don't have a car problem, we have a tracks problem. We need a lot more SMALL tracks. Trail mountain is no longer fun on anything under 300 hp due to how long the straights are.
The Autumn ring and its mini variations need to come back along with the Columban stage route 5. not every track needs to be a Gr 3 track, , what they did to the deep forest was good, trail mountain got its soul sucked out with those straights.

PD acknowledged this by adding 2 new variations to Maguire and Asltace specifically catered to small cars. The issue is TWO of them are power tracks, as they both have really steep elevation changes that favor the small cars with more power vs agility. The other one has gradient slopes and a good hairpin and S section along with a high-speed banked turn. Broad bean is "small" but designed in a way you can go flat out in pretty much every sub-200 hp car, and thus boring one you find out the track "gimmick" which is the non-banked corners entry angle is the make it or break it on that track.
 
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MonoTonouS
We really don't have a car problem, we have a tracks problem. We need a lot more SMALL tracks. Trail mountain is no longer fun on anything under 300 hp due to how long the straights are.
The Autumn ring and its mini variations need to come back along with the Columban stage route 5. not every track needs to be a Gr 3 track, , what they did to the deep forest was good, trail mountain got its soul sucked out with those straights.

PD acknowledged this by adding 2 new variations to Maguire and Asltace specifically catered to small cars. The issue is TWO of them are power tracks, as they both have really steep elevation changes that favor the small cars with more power vs agility. The other one has gradient slopes and a good hairpin and S section along with a high-speed banked turn. Broad bean is "small" but designed in a way you can go flat out in pretty much every sub-200 hp car, and thus boring one you find out the track "gimmick" which is the non-banked corners entry angle is the make it or break it on that track.
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I think we will get tracks with the monthly updates along with cars. It’s the way games are now. Drip feed more content to keep engagement.
 
Couldnt disagree more....its the one thing I miss in iRacing.... (Which has no normal road cars and is lacking even in production and sports cars) and honestly if thats all you want in life go play that.

Still love iRacing but Ive been missing real normal road cars for years and its why I had to install Assetto Corso recently and bought GT7.....

I also agree whole heartedly its a Track issue......even the slowest cars would be fun if we had Autocross or just tighter smaller tracks to keep racing together
 
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Every car they add is a treasure, and I'll collect and drive them all.
I truly, seriously want the Daihatsu Midget II to return, so that I may buy seven of them for different purposes.
 
F1nutcase
These are all the tracks us oldtimers race on that don't see or spell so good anymore.
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I don't see too well without my glasses anymore in dim lighting conditions + dyslexia. I was reading my briefs this morning and it genuinely looks as if I was drunk when I wrote them. Or,those are just the great value versions haha.
 
Samus
The classic cars themselves are not a problem, the problem is that there are so many cars without proper competitors. PD need to be more logical about their selection for cars, not just picking one car without thinking about what it would race against. So you're left with one-make races or extreme BOP completely changing the characteristics of a car to make it fit against others.

Like they're going to add the Toyota GR010 within the next couple of months and it's unlikely they'll add any other Hypercar category cars at the same time, so the only way it'll race is with BoP against some random older cars.
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Absolutely, that’s I’m thinking too since GT Sport.
you have some really cool cars like the Mercedes Barker Tourer, the Tesla or the Alfa 8C from the 30‘s for example, but no real competition against them that would make sense.
Or for the Dino 246 GT, why not add finally the first Porsche 911?
Or add the Porsche 904 as a competitor for the Alfa TZ2.
You could make some really cool custom races or they could even create some online races recreating some historical races.
 
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I’m personally, not interested in Konigsegg type cars. I don’t need a 5-minute Nurb car. Like other threads, more up to date cars from All brands are missing. Everyone have their preferences. I’ve got little no mileage in the Newer stuff anyway.
 
F1nutcase
There are tons of cars in this game that would be interesting if I were watching an episode of Wayne Carini's "Chasing Classic Cars" but have almost no Racing Simulator value. I understand this is GT's kind of MO but many in my opinion should have been round filed for more enjoyable driving experiences. I'm not interested in some anemic four banger from the 60's or 70's that turns 4 min. lap times.

I think the game is definitely missing Koenigsegg for starters.
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No Racing Simulator value??
It’s quite the opposite for many people, for me personally it’s much more satisfying driving some pure classic cars.
 
Rodion Raskol
I do love GT7 flaws and all but its just the way AAA gaming is now, dripfeed content to keep engagement up. Hopefully we keep seeing new races and cars every update.
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We are not being "drip fed" content at all, we are being RE-FED content.

It's largely the same content as GTS, and much of it is carried over with slight updates from GT6 and GT5. I had the Enzo in GTS (had it all the way back to GT5). I had LaFerrari in GTS. I barely used them because there's nowhere to use them (unless you really love destroying the SP).

I understand it, after all, having content carry over is something that has been applauded, but carrying the content over and then (essentially) putting it behind some kind of paywall....That's shady.

Since the update, I have tried to get as many gold rewards from the circuit experience as possible, and I am trying to collect the invitation only cars before the invite expires. I think I am going to fall short of getting the Veneno. The question is, WHY are we being forced into this behaviour? This isn't fun! Who thought this was a good idea? And really (I've said this before) I am only collecting on the HOPE that it's worth the effort. It wasn't worth the effort in GTS. Most of my garage is sitting at 0km, not because so much was free, but because there was no place to use it.

They've shot themselves in the foot, even after the update. They've created a vicious cycle. The cool cars are acquisition limited by time and credit cost. But to give them any true value to the player (aside from a single drive and a few glamour photos), there needs to be events for them (and it NEEDS to be both SP and MP). However, since they are acquisition limited, putting effort into creating those event might not be worth the effort.
 
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Other people have put it more eloquently than me, but personally the car list leaves a bit to be desired for me. The car list appears skewed slightly in terms of numbers towards cars from 2013-2016 or so (I haven't checked the numbers but it certainly seems that way to me), which in terms of games is GT6 and GTS. I've no qualms at all with reusing assets, if you've modelled a car to HD standards for GT6 and it still holds up to the standards of today, by all means reuse those assets. However, the relative lack of new models since GTS is a bit of a disappointment personally. I also agree that it would be nice to have more 70's - 90's plain-jane cars. GT2 and GT4 both were chock full of cars that you'd see on your high street (Peugeot 406, Citroen Xantia, Vauxhall Vectra etc etc), and I personally enjoyed that. Gave it a different dimension to the usual shiny hypercars you'd see in other games. For reasons others have also said as well, I'm not really a fan of the Vision GT cars. They seem out of place somewhat in a game series that likes to portray itself as an encyclopedia of motoring, the idea that PD like to put forward as one of a bastion of realism and attention to detail is shattered somewhat when you've a 2500bhp rocketship with active aero out the wazoo or an LMP style car powered by lasers or what have you.
 
Up to date GT3 cars
GT500s from the last half decade - There's a new Nissan Z car and Toyota Supra
LMP2 and 3
V8 Supercars
TCR separated from Group 4
Modern WRCs
Porsche 911 Cup Car / Lambo Super Trofeo etc. one make racecars

Lots of stuff that would be huge fun is completely missing.
 
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I think this game is missing a lot of relevant cars, but bear in mind that all Koenigseggs apart from the Gemera are basically the same car, just refined. The Jesko can trace its roots all the way back to the CC8S from 2002.

If the theme of the game is to "relive the best of GT", then start by bringing back iconic cars. GT-One, Suzuki Escudo, Skyline Silhouette, that stuff.

PD works at a snail pace. They will never keep up with the latest releases. On the other hand this is good because it gives the game detailed cars with few bugs and/or inaccuracies. Quantity over quality is more the green side's thing.

Which, frankly, does not excuse PD's excessive slowness either. I don't think every new car is necessary, but some of the more popular ones like the BMW M2, the Mini JCW, the 718 Boxster/Cayman (I think people would be happier with the 981 though :P) and the Audi TT-RS are sorely missing.
 
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The big problem about this game is that so many of the cars have flaws that makes them near undrivable so the amount of good cars is pretty small. I do miss having the Falcon and Commodore SS, those were fun (GT4 I think). And my favourte car and also track of all time are not in the game (Woodone Supra and Apricot hill), Although given that Apricot hill was in the pre release footage it probably gets put into the game on this end of April patch they keep talking about that is going to add cars and tracks.
 
meekrab
Up to date GT3 cars
GT500s from the last half decade - There's a new Nissan Z car and Toyota Supra
LMP2 and 3
V8 Supercars
TCR separated from Group 4
Modern WRCs
Porsche 911 Cup Car / Lambo Super Trofeo etc. one make racecars

Lots of stuff that would be huge fun is completely missing.
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The dailies are essentially unchanged.

"Up to date " Gt3 is no more or less fun than the current cars. And, although I personally love the class, this game leans into GR4 and GR3 far too much.

"GT500's" Again, no events. In GTS, Gr2 popped up very infrequently.

"LMP2 and 3" again, why? There's no GR1 events, where would these cars fall? Pumped up GR1? Is that more fun? I don't know. How many GR1 events were there in GTS and were they fun?

'V8 Supercars" - Again, why is this more fun?

"Modern WRC" Why? If they didn't even put the rally cars in the game at all, would there be much complaint? Can you imagine the uproar if they had 1 GRC daily in dirt. The GRC cars are horrible on asphalt with their BoP setup, so they'd have to allow tuning. The GRC BoP daily events were horrible in GTS. Definitely not fun.

"Super cup/Trofeo" - Again, is it the car, or the cup that would be fun? GTS had a few dailies that were Porsche limited and it was fun, but they happened like 6 times in 4 years (IIRC). Daily multiplayer cup events for every manufacturer, rotating through the manufacturers and cars...THAT woudl be fun


It's the same story - organized events. There's not much in the way of SP variation, and there's nothing on offer for multiplayer except the dailies and lobbies. It's 2022 and we should not be having to rely on the community and private groups to create content. Not to mention, the server settings don't even allow for a proper event to be set up without everyone agreeing to certain rules so that the integrity of the idea is kept intact.

They've phoned this one in. There's no love in this version. You can't even blame the pandemic for this, because the designers could have done it from home.
 
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Voodoovaj
It's the same story - organized events. There's not much in the way of SP variation, and there's nothing on offer for multiplayer except the dailies and lobbies. It's 2022 and we should not be having to rely on the community and private groups to create content. Not to mention, the server settings don't even allow for a proper event to be set up without everyone agreeing to certain rules so that the integrity of the idea is kept intact.

They've phoned this one in. There's no love in this version. You can't even blame the pandemic for this, because the designers could have done it from home.
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Well yeah, PD still need to add a bunch of events.
 
meekrab
Well yeah, PD still need to add a bunch of events.
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Last night, I had the game sitting and the automatic replay came up.

There it was...a classic LeMans with the Cobra Daytona, etc, etc, etc. The time it took to put the setting for that replay together is about the same time it takes to set up a single player event (with the exception of the menu art, obviously). Not to mention that this event has been in the game before, so it's not really something new.

PD is sitting on events and their DLC is a BS way of giving the game content, because the content is already done.

Rather than actually make a game improvement, like the DR/SR/Penalty system, they've done pretty much nothing except ruin the game.


The point on this one, here is a single player event (possibly) comprised of some of the most expensive cars in the game. Since they've made it less likely to buy these cars through time limitations and credit limitations, this event will get less play. If it's A SP experience only, fewer will care, and if there is multiplayer, will the low MP payouts give the incentive to go through the frustration of getting even one of those cars? Not to mention, there's always one car that is most dominant, so, I suppose, kudos to the lucky people who happened to buy that particular car.
 
Look, let's say I make a list of relevant and irrelevant car for me, I can assure you most of the irrelevant cars I mentionned someone will find them relevant and vice-versa.

We're not in gt6 anymore where there's 5 version of the same car, just some with minor difference. The game is made for a broad audience, for jdm lovers like me but also vintage US muscle car, as well as euro classic, living in europe, I couldnt care more about much of the euro classic cars but I saw in the Hoonigan video that some american are crazy about old Audi's and BMW's. And that's how it is, we are different and have different taste and GT is trying to cover a lot of car history. I think they are doing a fairly good job at it with cars for everyone's taste.

Would I like that niche car I like to be in the game, yeah sure, but with the level of modelling of the car, they can't please everyone like in old title where the car was taking a fraction of the time it's taking now to model.
 
I'll try to do this in alphabetical order and I know there's still ALOT I'm missing. But here's my own personal list.

(BOLD means the company isn't even on GT7)

Alfa:
-Giulia Quad

Audi:
-RS 2
-RS 4
-RS 5
-RS 6 Avant
-RS 7
-New e-Tron

BMW:
-M2
-1M
-M8
-GT M8
-Z4

Bentley:

Bugatti:
-Chiron

Buick:
-GNX/Grand National

Cadillac:
-CTS-V (V2)
-CTS-V (V2 Wagon)
-CTS-V (V3)
-ATS-V
-New Blackwing

Chevrolet:
-2015 Camaro Z/28
-C7 Z06
-C8 w/ Z51
-C8 Z06
-SS (the 4 door that the US got from Holden)

Dodge:
-Viper ACR

Ferrari:
-550 Maranello
-575

Ford:
-2022 Raptor
-2022 GT500
-F-150 Lightning
-RS200
-Escort Rally Car

Holden:

Jaguar:
-F-type SVR
-XJ220
-XJR-15

Jeep:
-Trackhawk

Koenigsegg:

Lancia:
-Delta Rally Car
-S4

Lexus:
-LFA (seriously. Come on)

Lotus:

Maserati:
-MC12
-(the new one that I can't remember the name of that looks sick)

Mercedes/AMG:
-All of the black series cars

McLaren:
-720

Mitsubishi:
-1999 3000gt (GTO)

Pagani:
-LM Road Car

Panoz:

Saleen:

Volvo:
 

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