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NOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOO! I want a fresh game for PS4
What if GT5 was re-released...
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Like I said, we've been over this before. You don't need to rewrite the whole engine for every platform, there are plenty of cross-platform, cross-generation game engines around. I mean hypothetically imagine GT went cross platform and GT5 was released on 360. Ignoring the technical issues in this hypothetical situation do you think they would have to completely rewrite the engine to work on the 360? Of course not, just like no other cross-platform developers don't have to. There are plenty of engines originally created on one platform that have been moved to other platforms.
Believe me, I really did want that to be true, I wanted another PS3 game but the time has passed.
So you think they're developing two games at once for two platforms? PD? The team that couldn't manage one full game properly?
As above, I really don't think that is the case.
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No, it is not a wishlist, just a dumb "what if" idea I had, nothing more.
And for this statement
"The GT5 engine has as much of a chance of working on the PS4 as wii bowling.
As above, I really don't think that is the case."
The very first prototyping images for Vision Gran Turismo were from GT4 running on a ps3 dev kit, right? EDIT: sort of GT4
Maybe they have access to the Orbis dev kits, so they have plenty of time to import the core GT engine, but... nevermind.
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Problem is what was the step in the good direction? I've probably said this an infinite amount of times, but many features in GT5 I've seen elsewhere and have been handled far better.
Like Premium Cars(Midnight Club LA comes to mind)
Plus the game was that bad even with new features it just felt like a pure mess, and it's almost like can you really call this new features, and for me I'll call them new once they are done the right way you could tell GT5 was an extreme shell of something.
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GalvoGT13 and Snaeper,
the problem with GT5 is that there was really nothing very well done with the game.
GT5's simulation of the 24hr Nurburgring, with the time of day and weather change is IMO the only truly 'wow' great thing about GT5 that I can look back on and say was done really well without feeliing rushed, incomplete, sloppy, or careless.
I cant say, well GT5 had an underwhelming A-Spec mode but the crash and damage physics were amazing.
I cant say, well GT5 had underwhelming crash and damage physics but the A-Spec mode was fun and amazing.
Thats really the point. Yeah, GT5 gave us Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini, and Maserati, but the selection was limited. We got NASCAR, but no decent championship to race them in. The F1 cars are almost useless. The 24 hour endurance races should have been a battle of man and machine, with your having to set out a detailed race plan to keep your B-Spec drivers mental and stamina up or the race could be lost. In the end the 24 hour races became a dud. The time of day changes, weather, the vast potential of B-Spec, etc, all wasted.
Key features from GT's direct rival, Forza, like the livery editor are still missing, despite 24 months of patches and updates. The possibilities of a livery editor using NASCAR stock cars and F1 cars or even the Formula GT could have been endless. Turn 10 realized that ages ago and gave its fans generic stock cars for the games livery editor.
Looking back on GT4 I can say the game had a lengthy (over twice as many events as GT5) and somewhat satisfying career mode that included manufacturer races. It had 700 or so 'premium' cars that were new (around 2004 models) or still somewhat relevant at the time.
Looking back at GT5, the only thing positive without drawbacks was the 24hr Nurburgring. That was truly the only real, solid thing about GT5. I would love to look at the glass half full, because with its numerous flaws it also has some positives, but I cant considering the development time of GT5 and the fact we havent heard a single thing about GT6 now 27 months after GT5's launch. All of this has been unacceptable by the standards of today's simulation racing market and I feel Kaz is really pushing the loyalty of his fanbase to the limits, unnecessarily.
the problem with GT5 is that there was really nothing very well done with the game.
GT5's simulation of the 24hr Nurburgring, with the time of day and weather change is IMO the only truly 'wow' great thing about GT5 that I can look back on and say was done really well without feeliing rushed, incomplete, sloppy, or careless.
I cant say, well GT5 had an underwhelming A-Spec mode but the crash and damage physics were amazing.
I cant say, well GT5 had underwhelming crash and damage physics but the A-Spec mode was fun and amazing.
Thats really the point. Yeah, GT5 gave us Ferrari, McLaren, Lamborghini, and Maserati, but the selection was limited. We got NASCAR, but no decent championship to race them in. The F1 cars are almost useless. The 24 hour endurance races should have been a battle of man and machine, with your having to set out a detailed race plan to keep your B-Spec drivers mental and stamina up or the race could be lost. In the end the 24 hour races became a dud. The time of day changes, weather, the vast potential of B-Spec, etc, all wasted.
Key features from GT's direct rival, Forza, like the livery editor are still missing, despite 24 months of patches and updates. The possibilities of a livery editor using NASCAR stock cars and F1 cars or even the Formula GT could have been endless. Turn 10 realized that ages ago and gave its fans generic stock cars for the games livery editor.
Looking back on GT4 I can say the game had a lengthy (over twice as many events as GT5) and somewhat satisfying career mode that included manufacturer races. It had 700 or so 'premium' cars that were new (around 2004 models) or still somewhat relevant at the time.
Looking back at GT5, the only thing positive without drawbacks was the 24hr Nurburgring. That was truly the only real, solid thing about GT5. I would love to look at the glass half full, because with its numerous flaws it also has some positives, but I cant considering the development time of GT5 and the fact we havent heard a single thing about GT6 now 27 months after GT5's launch. All of this has been unacceptable by the standards of today's simulation racing market and I feel Kaz is really pushing the loyalty of his fanbase to the limits, unnecessarily.
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Just kidding. We are all waiting for something new. New info, new game, etc. even if we got to see PD developing the game and watching one of the artists rendering trees would at least be something. No thread is too dumb(unless someone posts a link, I'm busy setting up my Stealth SLS AMG).
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Crikey, Zuku, in the initial post by Snaeper, they'd cleary stated that although none of it was done particularly well, it was a huge step forward from GT4. Does it mean GT5 was a great game? Nope. Simpy that it was a step up from GT4, which is what everyone wanted.*
*Based on the way I understood Snaepers initial post.
As for GT5 on the PS4, I dont see the point. In order to get all the bugs sorted out like shadows and such, the time spent to get it reworked the way the OP wants it is rather pointless. Why not spend that time on GT6, we all know PD need all the time they can get..
*Based on the way I understood Snaepers initial post.
As for GT5 on the PS4, I dont see the point. In order to get all the bugs sorted out like shadows and such, the time spent to get it reworked the way the OP wants it is rather pointless. Why not spend that time on GT6, we all know PD need all the time they can get..
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I don't get why people reacted as they did. There should have been more discussed about it before saying it's the worst idea. Sorta kinda like the remastered PS2 games, why do people buy those if not for the impossibility of playing them in better form. With Gran Turismo, would the physics not be updated? Wouldn't the Standard cars be eliminated? Wouldn't there be more A-Spec races? The topic isn't about straight up copying GT5 for the PS3 to the PS4. Well, that's what it reads like, but aren't we intelligent enough as human beings to see that a whole lot can be added to "GT5 for the PS4" using SOME of the resources and content from GT6 while being sold at a cheaper price, perhaps? The additional features don't all have to be easily visible. Think about the undocumented changes that come with each update.
Not all of the tracks or cars from past GT games were added to the next game. Ever think of that?
Even if I'm off about this (I know I'm off as I only spent a little bit of time typing this all out), I'm trying to point out that dismissing this thread entirely isn't right. Bottom-line, be more open-minded and realize that if this were to happen, it's going to be more game than a copy/paste of GT5 to, voila, we now have "better" graphics! YEAHHH! YEEEEEEEEEEHAWWWWWWWWWWWWWW
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or continue to not be open-minded thinking a remastered GT5 for the PS4 will be an exact copy of what we have now with update 2.10.
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Oy. Letting you know right now, I won't be replying to a few certain people. The ideas they have. SOOOOOOO uninformed (about how these things work or don't work).
Dang it, I have to.
Yes, and as we all know, GT5 for the PS4 will be an exact copy. Nothing updated. ugh
Bug fixes, Updates/Patches to do that? Maybe if Kaz's boss was his evil twin. I don't know.
FYI, they're supposed to hold certain features out of updates for the next game. That might or might not be why we haven't gotten everything we wanted 26 months down the line.
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In three year's time I'm sure PD has done better than just fixing shadows. After all, GT5 was developed in five years, and they started over from scratch with the game engine for that one, while GT6 will probably be based on the GT5 engine. If the current premium models are maintained as the standard level for cars in GT6, then they also already have some 200+ cars and quite a lot of tracks. They could easily have doubled that by know.
Also, GT5 was a title where they introduced a bunch of new features (night, weather, cockpit view, track generator, photomode etc), I'm sure they haven't been lazy on that department for the at least three years that will have passed between GT5 and GT6.
If GT5 was re-released for the next PlayStation, I'm pretty confident that it will not be the same GT5 that we know. It might even have a 6 instead of a 5
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I expect that GT6 will be a re-released GT5 - but on PS4.
I think it is generally thought that a large number of tracks and cars are already modelled ready for inclusion in GT6. I also understand that PD realised that the huge delays in releasing GT5 caused lower revenues. Releasing GT5P and the DLC may have compensated for the loss of not releasing 2 GT games during the PS3 life cycle - but surely they'll not want to make that strategic error again.
What we don't know is the transferability of the GT5 game engine onto a PS4 operating system. If this proves to be difficult then PD may to do some of these:
1. continue trying to get further revenue from PS3 users, by selling more DLC or even releasing a new Game Disk, with revised A-spec (inc PP), all previous seasonals, academy challenges etc - really bulk it all out. With enough new content - I'd probably still buy
2. launch GT6P
I think it is generally thought that a large number of tracks and cars are already modelled ready for inclusion in GT6. I also understand that PD realised that the huge delays in releasing GT5 caused lower revenues. Releasing GT5P and the DLC may have compensated for the loss of not releasing 2 GT games during the PS3 life cycle - but surely they'll not want to make that strategic error again.
What we don't know is the transferability of the GT5 game engine onto a PS4 operating system. If this proves to be difficult then PD may to do some of these:
1. continue trying to get further revenue from PS3 users, by selling more DLC or even releasing a new Game Disk, with revised A-spec (inc PP), all previous seasonals, academy challenges etc - really bulk it all out. With enough new content - I'd probably still buy
2. launch GT6P
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In three year's time I'm sure PD has done better than just fixing shadows. After all, GT5 was developed in five years, and they started over from scratch with the game engine for that one, while GT6 will probably be based on the GT5 engine. If the current premium models are maintained as the standard level for cars in GT6, then they also already have some 200+ cars and quite a lot of tracks. They could easily have doubled that by know.
Also, GT5 was a title where they introduced a bunch of new features (night, weather, cockpit view, track generator, photomode etc), I'm sure they haven't been lazy on that department for the at least three years that will have passed between GT5 and GT6.
If GT5 was re-released for the next PlayStation, I'm pretty confident that it will not be the same GT5 that we know. It might even have a 6 instead of a 5
Photomode isn't a new feature someone never played GT4, and might want to say Day and Night cycle we've had Night Racing forever with SSR5 Clubman route 5, and een SSR11
Let GT5 go it came and went, and by most people standard it was lacking/mediocre(for GT standard). If they re-release this game it won't go over very well at all.
There was another thread where people talked about how much stuff was half-assed in GT5 you can fix the problems, but at that point then it would just be a gigantic patch and nothing more.
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No. I don't play games, because they have great graphics.
True Story. I am shocked. Some people still think GT6 will be a PS3 game?SimonK
20. Februar enough said. PS3 we had a good time, but you can leave now. The future arrived.
I had a discussion with you and some other Users. I was in the GT6 will be a PS4 game group. before TGS.SimonK
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GT5 is a disappointing game in the series. It's not a bad game, it's good. But that's just it, it's not good enough to even consider rereleasing it on the PS4. GT5 was like a taste of what they want in a GT game, what they are working on, but because of that, it feels like a mess, a pool of great ideas that needs more refinement. Sure, it introduced a lot of new things to the franchise, but it didn't present them well enough. The whole game was like a demonstrator game for Sony at events, it looked nice, it did the basic things well enough, but other than that, no. It was a mediocre game. GT4 was more fun.
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What would be the point of rereleasing the same game on the PS4?????
