What is important about living?

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Because having kids is a major life experience. Without it, you've missed a big part of being human.
 
What is important about living?

#1 - Evolution = Addaption to the surounding enviornment to ensure quality of life.

#2 - Procreation = Every organism alive has this common goal,.. make more of yourself to ensure the survival of the species.

These are the main two reasons I'm alive, IMO. To learn as much as possible about human tendancies and then genetically (and later mentally) pass that knowledge along to offspring.
 
If they wanted to and never did, I guess. Otherwise no. Why would they be?

I guess it depends on how you use the phrase "be less". If that means "have less experience of the world" then I would say necessarily that they would be less for not having kids... regardless of the intent.


I think when you said they wouldn't be less for not having kids, you meant their lives would not be less enjoyed. That would be correct.
 
Originally posted by Red Eye Racer
What is important about living?

#1 - Evolution = Addaption to the surounding enviornment to ensure quality of life.

#2 - Procreation = Every organism alive has this common goal,.. make more of yourself to ensure the survival of the species.

These are the main two reasons I'm alive, IMO. To learn as much as possible about human tendancies and then genetically (and later mentally) pass that knowledge along to offspring.
Evolution isn't adaptation. It's the slow change of a species over time. It's not something that you yourself can accomplish. If it makes you happy that you're a part of it, you're easily pleased. Not that that's a bad thing.

Individuals don't evolve, populations do.
 
Originally posted by danoff
I guess it depends on how you use the phrase "be less". If that means "have less experience of the world" then I would say necessarily that they would be less for not having kids... regardless of the intent.


I think when you said they wouldn't be less for not having kids, you meant their lives would not be less enjoyed. That would be correct.

But someone may decide that it is more important for them to travel, to live in ten countries, or explore remote parts of the globe, or some other lifestyle not very conducive to family life. That person could argue that my experience of life is less than their's.
 
Originally posted by Timmotheus
Evolution isn't adaptation. It's the slow change of a species over time. It's not something that you yourself can accomplish. If it makes you happy that you're a part of it, you're easily pleased. Not that that's a bad thing.

Individuals don't evolve, populations do.

I wouldn't blame RER for thinking of it that way, though. The popular representation of evolution, hence it's commen interpretation, is that species somehow chose or choose to change. Just watch any nature documentary. The always refer to the adaptation of a species as if the species consciously realized that if it changed it's life would become more convenient, so it grew legs and ascended from the primordial soup, just like that. It kills me when I see that. Evolution is the sort of thing that if you're not going to portray it properly, don't bother. But dinosaurs and homonids sell like sex, and it's very hard to properly represent life with dazzling computer graphics and Alec Baldwin narrating.
 
But someone may decide that it is more important for them to travel, to live in ten countries, or explore remote parts of the globe, or some other lifestyle not very conducive to family life. That person could argue that my experience of life is less than their's.

Having children is a more fundamentally unique experience than seeing many variations on the way humans live.
 
Originally posted by danoff
Having children is a more fundamentally unique experience than seeing many variations on the way humans live.

How is it so unique when it is so common? It would seem to be more unique to be an artist living hand to mouth, but experiencing the edges of existence, or to be a world traveler, experiencing different cultures and places; in all of these places, too, having children would be common.

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I guess there are at least two levels to look at this on. Firstly you could consider the uniqueness of having children in the context of all the other people who have children, which makes it common. Secondly you can see it as one possibility among the countless paths people may choose, which tacitly makes it unique, but maybe less than some other things which less people endeavor to try, less unique juxtaposed to rarer lives.

Maybe the term "unique" in this discussion would be better replaced with "meaningful".
 
Originally posted by Timmotheus
Evolution isn't adaptation. --- It's the slow change of a species over time. [/i]

I think you just contradicted yourself.....



Originally posted by Timmotheus

It's not something that you yourself can accomplish. If it makes you happy that you're a part of it, you're easily pleased. Not that that's a bad thing.
Individuals don't evolve, populations do.


It's somthing that we all accomplish.....

My theory is a lot more in depth than just "we try to adapt",... I believe that all life is connected on a (for lack of a better term) spiritual level. When we come to certain realizations, they get recorded in the "book of life",... this all gets passed on to our offspring on a genetic level.

It's more like a feeling I have than anything,... very hard to put into words.
 
Have you tried being dead? No one but psychics ever listens to you. Not worth the hassle.

Living. At least more people will hear you.
 
Originally posted by Talentless
Have you tried being dead? No one but psychics ever listens to you. Not worth the hassle.

I have. And I agree. John Edwards is such a moron. I ignored him the whole time as a matter of principle.
 
I messed with his head. Showed him pink roses and said I was looking for someone named Floyd.
 
in my case...to live my life to the fullest, I want to learn as much as i can about anything that interests me. The more i learn, the better i feel. I'm terrible in school, but testing situations are hard for me - no matter how comfortable i am with the material...not to mention that most of what we're covering in the first years of the IT program at my school is EXTREMELY boring crap...accounting for example. (it's a business degree for IT...go figure)

anyways, i'd say more but class in 15 mins and i gotta cross campus
 
in my case...to live my life to the fullest, I want to learn as much as i can about anything that interests me. The more i learn, the better i feel.

Why? Why do you learn? Why does it make you feel good? What purpose does it serve? Is it really the application of that knowledge that makes you feel good?

If you learn all there is to know about the world and do nothing with it, when you die, it goes with you. What is the point in that?
 
GTJugend, Flerbizky, millencolin, mike rotch, ///M-Spec, Turbosmoke, Rumple, Red Eye, emad, and whoever else would answer this question by saying "to maximize my happiness."


If you were offered a computer and a jack in the back of your neck just like in the matrix.... you could load the program, make it whatever you wanted, and jump right in. Would you stay in that world forever?

I didn't ask if you would go in at all. Would you stay forever??

You could make it a world full of chicks (or men) and beer...


Let's even say that there were other, real people in that world. People who knew the real world but wanted to join you in your computer generated one full of food, chicks (or men) and beer - that way you could have your friends there too.


Tempting? Friends, chicks (or men), food, beer... for the rest of your life. In a fake world you generated on a computer.

Would you stay there or would you come back?
 
Always seemingly looking at the negative side of things, (maybe learned it from my mom in a way) I at one time when I was in middle/high school I had thoughts about suicide. Even doing it on my moms b-day, but I'm so glad that I hadn't because there's so much to life weither bad or good that I'm glad I've experienced so far. I'm not sure I know what's important about living but maybe it's finding out what's important about living that is the answer to the question this thread asks?
 
Originally posted by danoff
Tempting? Friends, chicks (or men), food, beer... for the rest of your life. In a fake world you generated on a computer.

Would you stay there or would you come back?

Utopias suck - there's nothing to experience, nothing to learn, and soon after, nothing to do if you are in a place where all you do is party and chill with friends.

I'd much rather live my life as it is - despite how many random incidents outside of my control have ocurred in the past months that really aggrivated me. I know things will get better though because i'm trying my hardest to make things right again.

It's a hard topic to respond to - "What's important for living?" Realistically, all that's important for living is food, water and shelter, isn't it? But then we'd be in the stone age.
 
I live to comtemplate the meaning of my existence, mainly. Other than that, I don't know. I'm glad I don't know why I live. It makes living worthwhile.

John Edwards is the biggest douche in the universe.
 
basically, like all animals we live to reproduce...

that is the meaningof our life. unfortunatley we were given brains (well some of us) and we therefore tink there is a much higher reason for our existance....

go figure
 
Originally posted by Klostrophobic
I live to comtemplate the meaning of my existence, mainly. Other than that, I don't know. I'm glad I don't know why I live. It makes living worthwhile...

Those are the words I was looking for. Thank you, Klostrophobic.
 
unfortunatley we were given brains (well some of us) and we therefore tink there is a much higher reason for our existance....

We have brians to help us reproduce, and they allowed us to see that there can be more to life than reproduction.
 
being on gtplanet
watching your kids register to gtplanet

uhhhh...................................
reproduction and death are the only things that come to mind right now:confused:
 

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