What the game should have been!!!

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wildmoodswings

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This is a comprehensive list of companies that build some really cool cars that should have been put into the game. I have been playing video games for 31 years and this game for the last ten or so. I have every right to complain about a product that I pay for and this website provides a forum to do that.

I eagerly bought Prologue years ago and was fairly disappointed especially with the online game play. I purchased GT5 about a year ago but havent really played it until about 4 weeks ago and have now gotten to the point where I will not be buying another game unless certain things are fixed.

1. Clearly Kaz is not the best person to be doing the next game and has been bought out buy the Japanese car companies. I felt like this game was a marketing tool for the Japanese companies. 40 GTR cars is 30 more than the game should have and so on with all the Mazda and Honda cars as well waaaay too many of the same car.

2. The graphics are sub-par and feels like GT4 in many ways with prettier colors and slightly more polygons. 7 years to make this game is like waiting for the next Tool CD. I will be 45 in 7 years and wont care about this game when the next one is release unless PD hires me as the project manager for the series. Then we will get a real publisher involved and make the game in 2 years. Its just cars for FK sake it's not the next Doom game where the graphics are going to push systems from all over the world when it comes out.

3. The game has cars that don't exist in real life in the game that were created by PD and they should not be there WHAT-SO-EVER!! There are waaay too many cars that are "real" that are not in the game and the fake ones happen to be the best ones by far. That is crap imo!!

4. The DLC that was just released with the test track should have been put into the game for free as an update we should not have had to pay for that at all. WTF were they thinking making people pay for that when all around the world that is how cars are judged and sold to us.

5. The used car lot is crap and needs to have every car there for you to see and not have to wait a year of your REAL life just to wait to something that your never going to get. Yes I know about trading cars that is not the solution.

6. The game GUI is entirely too dark and not set up in a way that makes sense, it's like sifting through the ESPN home page. Waaaay too much stuff and the icons need work.

7. The car wash and oil change part of the game as well as the engine repair and body repair need to be consolidated into one thing and that can happen in the background. Just show me the final car and don't make the page loads take soooo looong.

8. The music in the game is horrible ALL OF IT. Yes I realize you can use your own and I find that about as lazy as going to a restaurant and having to peel my own prawns or leaving the fish on the bone. There is plenty of good music AKA Fallout series they could have used for free or really cheap.


9. The track editor is crap!!! You are not building your OWN tracks at all. You are making something with predetermined parameters and have ZERO ability to EDIT anything. You can't even build a simple straight line track to test your cars on. I remember Unreal Tournament editor on PC and playing some killer layouts that actually got put into Unreal 3 that were fan made.

10. The game play is the same every track you start out in last place or 7th and you have to race to finish to first and all the cars ahead of your car are ALWAYS much better so you have to upgrade your car, kinda lame. Need for Speed Hot Pursuit required you to actually understand the track and it was your skill at playing video games that got you first place not all the upgrades.

11. After you "finish" the game you should be able to set races up with the computer and let the computer race cars you own in your garage with upgrades, that would be cool. Otherwise there is not much replay-ability or you are forced into playing online with people that just want to drift around the track all night and drifting is a really low form of auto racing.

12. There should be a livery editor in the game that is comparable to Midnight Club:Los Angeles or better!!! Why am I spending my own money paying for colors and then losing them after I use them, this is complete BS!!!
I created a General Lee car in Midnight that took hours to design putting all the stars on the roof just in the right shape and everything and you cant be creative with this game like that all. I can guarantee that if there was a editor in the game some of the designs would be great and I would personally like to see that but this game doesn't give people the use of their minds.

13. The license tests are waaay to hard to get gold in and quite frankly are just designed to piss people off. I generally have "FUN" playing most games but this game tends to piss me off because its always been full of flaws but since I love cars I play it.

14. The guys at Criterion got it right with Burnout Paradise and the online aspect of the game. The open world was a great move and over three years later I still play every once in a while online. Its just a fun time online and GT5 kinda sucks online and is limited to becoming chat rooms where people either just drift or don't do much of anything or really stupid 200 lap races.

15. The same old races are in the game that have been in the last 2 games in the same order and the same amount of races and use the same cars and everything is the same same same same same. Have the courage to do something different. Like old vs.new races, Japan vs. America or England or Italian or German or whatever country.

16. Show damage already WTF is wrong with not showing damage on the cars???!!! Grid did a really cool feature where it actually worked but not in this series where all the cars need to look perfect all the time, really lame.

17. Japan really didn't make anything good until the 70's and some people might even say until the early 80's and has only produced one super car, the GT-R. So why are there sooooooooo many Japanese cars in the game??????
Is this guy Kaz crazy or something? He sends a team of people over to Jay Leno's house to record sounds for the game and almost half of the game is crap Japanese cars. Only 2 Australian cars and not one UTE or the Mad Max interceptor (Ford Falcon) is in the game, what a crime.

18. This is a list of the top fastest cars in the world and only 5 were included in the game but thankfully we got every Honda Civic and Mazda Miata ever produced put in the game and specific races for those crap cars as well.

Bugatti Veyron Super Sport
Hennessey Venom GT
Koenigsegg Agera R
SSC Ultimate Aero
Saleen S7 Twin-Turbo
Koenigsegg CCX
McLaren F1
Gumpert Apollo
Noble M600
Lamborghini Aventador
Pagani Zonda Cinque Roadster
Ferrari Enzo
Jaguar XJ220
Ascari A10
Pagani Zonda F
Vector WX-8

Does anyone notice that there is not one Japanese car on this list, why? Because Japan only has one fast car in the world that was ever produced that's why and it really doesn't have a soul to it compared to all of these cars.



Finally I have attached a link so the people at PD can understand all the relevant car companies in the world and put them in the next game that will probably take another 7 years to see the light of day. Fire Kaz, as producer of the GT series or let him do a all Japanese game and bring in someone from an American company or English company to make a game that is going to be more of a worldwide game. Japan is not good at making video games and never has been, minus the Dragon Quest series and Shadow of the Colossus and Zelda. Yes I am sure everyone can name a bunch that I missed but those three are by far the best.

Some of you might think that this is anti Japanese but that is far from the truth I happen to think that GT5 is a marketing tool and I paid money for a good game and got a lame re-boot and spent too much money for it and the producer of the game has a stick up his butt for cars from Japan. I am not pro American ANYTHING that's why I don's live in the states anymore I am simply pointing out all the glaring flaws in the game and venting about it and will probably not continue to play a game that should be entertaining me but is just pissing me off instead.

I hope the next effort of the game will be better but I probably wont care by the time it comes out. I would rather play a Half Life 3 if that ever gets released or a really buggy Skyrim.

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It's funny that, even though as examples they might be pretty legit, you make comparisons to Burnout, Midnight Club and Hot Pursuit, all good games in their own right but made with a much different design philosophy and all much smaller in scope...
 
I wouldnt really call that constructive criticism more like bashing

From your post I gathered from you that there is nothing of value in gt5 if thats what you think then perhaps its more likely its not for you

And that doesnt mean gt5 is a terrible game just means it doesnt appeal to you

Im not sure how you think you can bash a game on a forum dedicated to it
 
Wow you probably just spend a half an hour typing about a game you don't like. Good for you.

If you like arcade games so much " Midnight Club, Grid, Need for Speed Hot Pursuit" you should have known gt is no game for you.

PS: licens test are not hard i golded them all with DS. Some spacial events are hard but thats the challenge, a game that you beat without trying is boring.

And whats wrong with dlc the community begged for it and now its here people complain. Sins when does everybody expect other people to work for free.
 
It's funny that, even though as examples they might be pretty legit, you make comparisons to Burnout, Midnight Club and Hot Pursuit, all good games in their own right but made with a much different design philosophy and all much smaller in scope...

Thanks for understanding the legit comments and I dont think the other games are smaller in scope they just have less cars but the graphics on those games and GRID are much better than GT5.
 
wildmoodswings
I am sure you didnt read anything that I wrote down. So close your mouth instead.

Where as I did give you the respect by reading through your long post my opinion still stands
 
Its impossible for a video game to please every person, in every way. Being 'of age' I'd figure you'd learn that by now...

I implore you to show me a better racing game for a video game console. I'm not talking about 'this aspect of this game' mixed with 'that aspect of that game' i'm talking about 1 singular racing and driving game thats BETTER and more thorough than GT5.

I wont hold my breath.
 
Well played sir, I don't expect you to last here long.

Where in life or this website? I wont make a habit of posting if thats what you mean but I stand by everything I said and would change the game entirely if I was in charge of production and not succumb to the auto manufacturers whims.
 
What I think is anyone is free to express thier views

But jumping into a gt forum and start shooting the reason the forum is here is clearly just looking to ruffle feathers and get people worked up
 
Its impossible for a video game to please every person, in every way. Being 'of age' I'd figure you'd learn that by now...

I implore you to show me a better racing game for a video game console. I'm not talking about 'this aspect of this game' mixed with 'that aspect of that game' i'm talking about 1 singular racing and driving game thats BETTER and more thorough than GT5.

I wont hold my breath.

Whats so good about this game? All the Japanese cars or the poor graphics or is it the DLC's being released that should have been included in the game.
Ohhh I know its the 7 years it took to make a game that websites like this one and others have with thousands of people bitching about the game and why its soooo good.

I like the game but better is relative to ones point of view and I dont think the game is bad its just dated and flawed and not only pisses me off but thousands of other people like me that take their time to post complaints about the game that PD will use for free and then charge you for in a DLC that you will gladly pay for.

People like you benefit from people like me complaining, never forget that.
 
I am sure you didnt read anything that I wrote down. So close your mouth instead.

Instead of what? I read it and thought, oh my god. Internet has to be the greatest joke of all time.


So again:

hahahahaha internet, what a joke, hahahahhaha
 
Clearly Kaz is not the best person to be doing the next game and has been bought out buy the Japanese car companies.

That's quite a serious allegation and bordering on libel (the wrong side of that border). Do you have any proof for it at all?

You may like to consider that the cover cars for Gran Turismo have been American, American/German, American, French and German, in that order (though the XL edition of GT5 has a cover of a car classed in game as Japanese, but designed by a British man for an Austrian company).

You might also like to consider that he includes a Porsche 993 911 GT3 (the car he tried to include in GT3 and the cover car for the Attack Gran Turismo documentary) and two Ford GTs (the cover car for GT4) in his personal fleet.
 
wildmoodswings
I like the game but better is relative to ones point of view and I dont think the game is bad its just dated and flawed and not only pisses me off but thousands of other people like me that take their time to post complaints about the game that PD will use for free and then charge you for in a DLC that you will gladly pay for.

Do you say the same thing about forza?
 
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You are delusional wildmoodswings.

I wouldnt say delusional he is passionate About the topic just picks the wrong way to express it
 
That's quite a serious allegation and bordering on libel (the wrong side of that border). Do you have any proof for it at all?

You may like to consider that the cover cars for Gran Turismo have been American, American/German, American, French and German, in that order (though the XL edition of GT5 has a cover of a car classed in game as Japanese, but designed by a British man for an Austrian company).

You might also like to consider that he includes a Porsche 993 911 GT3 (the car he tried to include in GT3 and the cover car for the Attack Gran Turismo documentary) and two Ford GTs (the cover car for GT4) in his personal fleet.

Yes I have proof of what I wrote and that is why I wrote it. I have done some research into the making of the game and the delays in getting the game out to the public and none of it had to do with graphics issues but more to what Nissan and Toyota wanted to see in the game.
 
Yes I have proof of what I wrote and that is why I wrote it. I have done some research into the making of the game and the delays in getting the game out to the public and none of it had to do with graphics issues but more to what Nissan and Toyota wanted to see in the game.

So the delay to upgrade to 60 fps was a Toyota/Nissan decision?
 
Yes I have proof of what I wrote and that is why I wrote it. I have done some research into the making of the game and the delays in getting the game out to the public and none of it had to do with graphics issues but more to what Nissan and Toyota wanted to see in the game.

I told you he is delusional.
 
Do you say the same thing about forza?

Never played Forza dont own a XBOX. This has nothing to do with the amount American vs. Japanese cars in the game it has to do with the fact that when I started playing this game a month ago I noticed some things and have been pissed off about the subject since then.

Dare I ask what proof

Interviews with Kaz I have seen online they are not hard to find.
 
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This thread reminds me of a song by the Smashing Pumpkins:

"Despite all my rage, I am still just a rat in a cage"

hahahahaha Internet, what a joke, hahahaha

(Best thread ever)
 
Yes I have proof of what I wrote and that is why I wrote it.

Then please share it with the audience, referenced, before we're contacted for Polyphony's lawyers requesting your details. As it stands you've just libelled the vice-president of Sony. Since we have no desire to be shut down, you need to (attempt to) prove it or we cannot allow the discussion to continue.

I have done some research into the making of the game and the delays in getting the game out to the public and none of it had to do with graphics issues but more to what Nissan and Toyota wanted to see in the game.

Oh, he's "done some research". That'll stand up in court.

I'm sure having to can 30 months of work on upgrading GT4 to start with GT5 from scratch was all at Nissan and Toyota's behest. Why has there never been a Nissan or Toyota on the front cover of a full, canon Gran Turismo game?
 
If you don't like it, just don't play it...

Typical English response. No I will complain about it that is what Americans do we complain about things. English people just say "ohh well he tried" .
My ex is English so I know English people rather well.
 
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