What's the best gear ratios for Gr.4 High speed ring?

[CnPx]

I am trying to do the gr.4 event on the high speed ring on the World races in Asia. No matter how hard I try I cannot come 1st. I have been doing time trials for hours trying to get decent lap times but I always get around 1:19. I seen on Youtube someone getting 1:17 and he said that wasn't very good. I even bought a new Corvette just for this race which is suppose to be a faster & better car but it didn't make a huge amount of difference as far as lap times go. Slightly better but still not as good as it needs to be.
I don't have a huge amount of knowledge when it comes to tuning gears. I kind of get it but I can't look at a track and gauge the numbers perfectly. Anyone on here that can do that? The race event is limited to 630pp and has to be a race car as well. If you would be a goat and let me know what you think the best gear numbers are for this event it would be much appreciated. Also any tips to improving lap times? I already got all the assists turned off 🙂

Apologies if this is the wrong sub forum. Didn't know where else to throw it.

 

[Sjokkomoes]

In a nutshell:
If the car is hitting the limiter-> put the end gear higher, if it is far from hitting the limiter, lower end gear.
If that doesnt work, your car is underpowered and/or too heavy.

 

[xMAXIx79]

G70 Genessis without any Changes.

 

[CnPx]

In a nutshell:
If the car is hitting the limiter-> put the end gear higher, if it is far from hitting the limiter, lower end gear.
If that doesnt work, your car is underpowered and/or too heavy.

What about all the other gears? Like is there a way I can make it so I accelerate out of corners better. Or is it better to have loads of short gears and then the final gear be really long or have all the gears around the same size? Those are the things I never really understood that well.

 

[ZEGOLFMAN]

What about all the other gears? Like is there a way I can make it so I accelerate out of corners better. Or is it better to have loads of short gears and then the final gear be really long or have all the gears around the same size? Those are the things I never really understood that well.

Use PRAIANO's tunes on your cars then learn how to drive

 

[eran0004]

What about all the other gears? Like is there a way I can make it so I accelerate out of corners better. Or is it better to have loads of short gears and then the final gear be really long or have all the gears around the same size? Those are the things I never really understood that well.

Your goal is to spend as much time as possible near peak power. The optimal ratios therefor depends on the power curve of the car and the speed of the track. If you have a very peaky power curve then you need closely spaced gears so that you don’t fall too far from peak power when you shift up. If you have a very flat power curve then you can have more widely spaced gears.

On a fast track like High Speed Ring you can set the 1st gear to be rather tall, or set a big gap between first gear and second gear, in order to reduce the gap between the higher gears, because you will be spending almost all of the race in the higher gears.

 

[CnPx]

Your goal is to spend as much time as possible near peak power. The optimal ratios therefor depends on the power curve of the car and the speed of the track. If you have a very peaky power curve then you need closely spaced gears so that you don’t fall too far from peak power when you shift up. If you have a very flat power curve then you can have more widely spaced gears.

On a fast track like High Speed Ring you can set the 1st gear to be rather tall, or set a big gap between first gear and second gear, in order to reduce the gap between the higher gears, because you will be spending almost all of the race in the higher gears.

This has been the only thing I found that has actually been understandable lol. I have watched a few YT videos and none of them gave me an answer that I understood lol. They basically all just said adjust the final gear so you reach max revs but I wanna be able to perfect my gearing.
I just found this interesting post about shifting timings as well post link. How its not always optimal to switch just before the red line as your torque at that point mite not be that good. So with certain cars shifting earlier mite allow for better acceleration.

 

[CnPx]

Use PRAIANO's tunes on your cars then learn how to drive

Is this the tunes your talking about? PRAIANO's tunes
If it is then this person hasn't done much for GT7 at this point and the track I want the tune for wasn't on GT sport. I think my gearing isn't far off the optimal set up at this point thou.

 

[xMAXIx79]

The problem is that we don't have any exact data / diagrams in the game menu to really be able to set the gears perfectly. Because so many important numbers/data are missing to make it suitable and as accurate as possible. In real life you know (i.e. a racing car technician how much power the engine can deliver at the exact speed, sometimes even the power output is adjusted depending on the gear. Unfortunately, all this is still missing in the game, so you can only "estimate" which values are good. As a rough guide you need to look at the power curves. You can find them when you go to the change motor power box, there you will see the power measurement chart. This chart is what you need to keep in mind when you want to tune your transmission. It is important also that there are several setting options here, each of which is decisive for the overall result. First you have to set the maximum speed to be achieved. Then you have the transmission ratios of the individual gears and the general / overall transmission ratio. As a rule of thumb, it has been shown that it is best to set a final speed first (this will change later Why change it, I suspect that a general spread of the gears is set ) then you change the overall transmission ratio at the very bottom as a second step. And only then should you work on the individual courses. If you start with the individual gears first and then later change the overall ratio, all the gears will change again.

 

[MagpieRacer]

I used the 458 gr.4 for this after trying it in the Supra and getting nowhere near. The 458 has a 7 speed box, just moved the aero balance to the middle of the sliders, then ran it as is and won by about 2 seconds.

 

[breeminator]

I've done 6:25 for this race, with fastest laps in the 1:14s, using the Gr.4 Veyron. I added 200kg of ballast to allow me to have as much power as possible.

Edit: Just ran the game up to see the settings:
RH tyres
200 / 200 downforce
Ballast 200 at -46
Power Restrictor 87
Transmission: Fully Customisable Racing, top speed 300kph
High RPM turbocharger
Everything else default
629.86 PP
That car can lap in the 1:14s (without hitting barriers)

 

[Nielsen]

Porsche Cayman with default ratios works for me. Racing hard tires and then restrict power until you meet the PP limit.

 

[ebadevil]

I've done 6:25 for this race, with fastest laps in the 1:14s, using the Gr.4 Veyron. I added 200kg of ballast to allow me to have as much power as possible.

Yup, same here. The Bugatti did the job for me. It's a pig in the corners but makes up for it on the straightaways. Add weight, focus on hp, hard tires so you can have space for most hp. Was fairly simple after that.

 

[ZEGOLFMAN]

Is this the tunes your talking about? PRAIANO's tunes
If it is then this person hasn't done much for GT7 at this point and the track I want the tune for wasn't on GT sport. I think my gearing isn't far off the optimal set up at this point thou.

Most of the gearing will be down to personal choice as when you change gear some prefer to shift earlier but if you can get a tune for a similar car then apply your own gear ratios it may well help. I for one do not understand the frequency rubbish they have introduced and how is anybody supposed to adjust it without any actual explanation as to what it is or does

 

[Stakado]

I am trying to do the gr.4 event on the high speed ring on the World races in Asia. No matter how hard I try I cannot come 1st. I have been doing time trials for hours trying to get decent lap times but I always get around 1:19. I seen on Youtube someone getting 1:17 and he said that wasn't very good. I even bought a new Corvette just for this race which is suppose to be a faster & better car but it didn't make a huge amount of difference as far as lap times go. Slightly better but still not as good as it needs to be.
I don't have a huge amount of knowledge when it comes to tuning gears. I kind of get it but I can't look at a track and gauge the numbers perfectly. Anyone on here that can do that? The race event is limited to 630pp and has to be a race car as well. If you would be a goat and let me know what you think the best gear numbers are for this event it would be much appreciated. Also any tips to improving lap times? I already got all the assists turned off 🙂

Apologies if this is the wrong sub forum. Didn't know where else to throw it.

I do 1:16:200 with a stock supra gr4 with 360hp to get 629pp.
or, you simply can hit the wall on the first corner to do laps in 1:14

 

[dabz343]

I am trying to do the gr.4 event on the high speed ring on the World races in Asia. No matter how hard I try I cannot come 1st. I have been doing time trials for hours trying to get decent lap times but I always get around 1:19.

I'm consistently in the 1.13.8xx on the last lap @ 155mph at the finish with a Cayman. On RH, LSD & gears tuned only.

I'm not sure what is causing the difference for you, but this is not normal. Can you share a vid of how you drive?

 

[TFSI400]

I was consistently getting 1st in the Group 4 Supra, but not by a long way. So I decided to buy Nitrous, because for some strange reason it doesn’t alter PP!

Easy grind thereafter 😆

I’m guessing the people struggling with this are making the mistake I did initially; not taking the last corner flat. In the gr4 Supra at least, you should be WOT all the way on that corner if you pick the right line, and that will have a huge effect on your speed on the straight and the first corner.

 

[CnPx]

The problem is that we don't have any exact data / diagrams in the game menu to really be able to set the gears perfectly. Because so many important numbers/data are missing to make it suitable and as accurate as possible. In real life you know (i.e. a racing car technician how much power the engine can deliver at the exact speed, sometimes even the power output is adjusted depending on the gear. Unfortunately, all this is still missing in the game, so you can only "estimate" which values are good. As a rough guide you need to look at the power curves. You can find them when you go to the change motor power box, there you will see the power measurement chart. This chart is what you need to keep in mind when you want to tune your transmission. It is important also that there are several setting options here, each of which is decisive for the overall result. First you have to set the maximum speed to be achieved. Then you have the transmission ratios of the individual gears and the general / overall transmission ratio. As a rule of thumb, it has been shown that it is best to set a final speed first (this will change later Why change it, I suspect that a general spread of the gears is set ) then you change the overall transmission ratio at the very bottom as a second step. And only then should you work on the individual courses. If you start with the individual gears first and then later change the overall ratio, all the gears will change again.

Its annoying that they didn't add diagrams and so on. They have added all these in depth tuning options but haven't gave you the tools to perfect your tuning. I also can't see PD adding them either. You also can't share your tuning set ups and download other peoples like Forza has allowed people to do since the Xbox 360 on Forza MS4.

I used the 458 gr.4 for this after trying it in the Supra and getting nowhere near. The 458 has a 7 speed box, just moved the aero balance to the middle of the sliders, then ran it as is and won by about 2 seconds.

Isn't that the 1 you get from licenses? That's the car I was using before but I kept loosing lol so I got the Corvette. I came 1st in the race after making further adjustments but I still wanna get better. I am not sure if my gearing can be improved much more. At this point I just need to overall improve 😝 I only recently got back into racing games a month ago and before when I use to play them it was on Forza so no surprise that I am not pro yet 😂

I've done 6:25 for this race, with fastest laps in the 1:14s, using the Gr.4 Veyron. I added 200kg of ballast to allow me to have as much power as possible.

Edit: Just ran the game up to see the settings:
RH tyres
200 / 200 downforce
Ballast 200 at -46
Power Restrictor 87
Transmission: Fully Customisable Racing, top speed 300kph
High RPM turbocharger
Everything else default
629.86 PP
That car can lap in the 1:14s (without hitting barriers)

So is it better to add more performance parts then use a ballast to lower the PP or just to use standard parts and not bother with a ballast? Cos I have always thought about chucking a turbo on certain cars and then using a power restrictor or ballast so I could still qualify but then I never done it cos it mite just be a waste of money and not make much difference?

Most of the gearing will be down to personal choice as when you change gear some prefer to shift earlier but if you can get a tune for a similar car then apply your own gear ratios it may well help. I for one do not understand the frequency rubbish they have introduced and how is anybody supposed to adjust it without any actual explanation as to what it is or does

haha yh what I found is just to play around with it for ages trying different things. Testing the track to see what corners work with what gears and adjusting everything accordingly. I could have butchered the hole thing thou 😂 Gear 1 and 2 and strictly for accelerating so they are more on the short side. Gear 6 is fairly long for the long straight and then the other gears is more or less evenly spaced apart. I found that works quite well for this track.
I just wanna get perfect at it because with this game there is no races that have tuning disabled so to get good at online I feel like you are forced to learn how to be good at tuning. Its stupid really thou they should have a couple events with no tuning at all then a couple events with tuning. This way everyone can be happy.

I do 1:16:200 with a stock supra gr4 with 360hp to get 629pp.
or, you simply can hit the wall on the first corner to do laps in 1:14

I thought my laps were faster when I hit the wall on time trials 😂 I just thought I did the rest of the race really well 😁

I'm consistently in the 1.13.8xx on the last lap @ 155mph at the finish with a Cayman. On RH, LSD & gears tuned only.

I'm not sure what is causing the difference for you, but this is not normal. Can you share a vid of how you drive?

I will upload to YouTube in a second 🙂 I am probably just bad at the game 😅

I was consistently getting 1st in the Group 4 Supra, but not by a long way. So I decided to buy Nitrous, because for some strange reason it doesn’t alter PP!

Easy grind thereafter 😆

I’m guessing the people struggling with this are making the mistake I did initially; not taking the last corner flat. In the gr4 Supra at least, you should be WOT all the way on that corner if you pick the right line, and that will have a huge effect on your speed on the straight and the first corner.

Wait? Nitros doesn't add PP!? That's insane lol. I will have to grab myself a bottle of that, should be allot easier then 😁 In the corvette you gotta slow down on that corner and then soon as you get around 1/4 through you can then fully accelerate through it.

 

[CnPx]

I'm consistently in the 1.13.8xx on the last lap @ 155mph at the finish with a Cayman. On RH, LSD & gears tuned only.

I'm not sure what is causing the difference for you, but this is not normal. Can you share a vid of how you drive?

Here is a video of my last run. I won the race but my lap times are still on the long side. My car is restricted down to 630pp of course to qualify for the event.

I was consistently getting 1st in the Group 4 Supra, but not by a long way. So I decided to buy Nitrous, because for some strange reason it doesn’t alter PP!

Easy grind thereafter 😆

I’m guessing the people struggling with this are making the mistake I did initially; not taking the last corner flat. In the gr4 Supra at least, you should be WOT all the way on that corner if you pick the right line, and that will have a huge effect on your speed on the straight and the first corner.

Just done a run with Nitros and it makes so much difference!!

 

[Staquix]

I started with the Supra and default setting and also put a bottle of nos in it. Now I have done it so many times I can easily win with no Nitro even with the stock settings. I have drafted the leader and slung past him out of the last turn and just got out in front on the first lap and run with it. Depending on the cars in the race either one works.

 

[CnPx]

I started with the Supra and default setting and also put a bottle of nos in it. Now I have done it so many times I can easily win with no Nitro even with the stock settings. I have drafted the leader and slung past him out of the last turn and just got out in front on the first lap and run with it. Depending on the cars in the race either one works.

Yh since I stuck a bottle of nos in the car I am smashing out wins now with improvements on my lap times. Before I had nitro I was barely winning with less than half a second. Most of the time I would come second. I didn't know until someone said that nos doesn't effect PP.
I mainly wanted to get good with this event thou as its the only way to really earn decent credits in the game as all the other events don't pay well. I also wanna get good with gear tuning because there is no events on Sport mode where tuning is disabled so you need to be good with tuning to stand a chance in competing. I hope in future this gets addressed thou because it just makes the barrier even bigger to play online. You already have to be somewhat good at the game and now you need to be a fully qualified mechanic aswell lmao.

 

[Staquix]

Just off the top of my head I would say set the top speed to 260 w/o Nos and 280 if your smashing the boost button all the way down the front straight. That's for the Toyota with stock down force (180/260).

There is no catch all answer to gearing there are just to many variables to say "set it up like this". Without proper telemetry data there is just no way to calculate how to set up anything in the car really. It's sadly trial and error and personal preference for the most part.

 

[boostdmarkii]

i can send you a s15 touring car tune sheet when im outta work that gets me in the 1.13 lap time area.. its got nitrous and tops at 156mph just to keep it below the 630pp threshold . p.s It handles awessome and the only drawback is how expensive it was to initially buy the car and get it all set up had to be around 500k

 

[CnPx]

Just off the top of my head I would say set the top speed to 260 w/o Nos and 280 if your smashing the boost button all the way down the front straight. That's for the Toyota with stock down force (180/260).

There is no catch all answer to gearing there are just to many variables to say "set it up like this". Without proper telemetry data there is just no way to calculate how to set up anything in the car really. It's sadly trial and error and personal preference for the most part.

Yh I think I need to add a little bit of top speed to the gears since I bought nos cos I am hitting the red line on a few of the laps. I use a bit on the straight and then also hit it after the chicanes as well 🙂
Yh I hope they improve the tuning a bit more by adding more detailed graphs or mite be a long shot but if they added a dino that would be awesome! They are adding Sophy that companion AI thing so sounds like they are working on huge updates so no reason an improvement on tuning is unrealistic to think of 🤔

i can send you a s15 touring car tune sheet when im outta work that gets me in the 1.13 lap time area.. its got nitrous and tops at 156mph just to keep it below the 630pp threshold . p.s It handles awessome and the only drawback is how expensive it was to initially buy the car and get it all set up had to be around 500k

Yh that would be awesome! Send him on over and il give it a whirl. Its always fun to try out new cars and stuff 😁

 

[Gt79]

I managed to do 1.16 in gazoo racing, stock, with minor suspension tuning, it's not about speed but how you take them corners

 

[dabz343]

Here is a video of my last run. I won the race but my lap times are still on the long side. My car is restricted down to 630pp of course to qualify for the event.


Just done a run with Nitros and it makes so much difference!!

Yes, one obvious thing I can see is that you are losing alot of time under braking and for some reason, your top speed is 10+mph less than me...and I do NOT use nitrous.

When I get home later I will post a vid, I think I saved a replay of one of my 1.13.8 laps in a Cayman...

 

[breeminator]

So is it better to add more performance parts then use a ballast to lower the PP or just to use standard parts and not bother with a ballast? Cos I have always thought about chucking a turbo on certain cars and then using a power restrictor or ballast so I could still qualify but then I never done it cos it mite just be a waste of money and not make much difference?

If all you want to do is be able to win to grind credits, then either way is fine, but for this particular track I've found the fastest lap times are from adding the max ballast, and an engine upgrade to allow you to still hit 630 PP. The weight makes the handling worse, so with the same PP you'll have better acceleration and top speed to compensate, and those are more important for this track. Before using the Veyron I was using the Jag, and without ballast I was struggling to get past the AI cars as I didn't have enough acceleration. I changed to having ballast and more power, and I moved through the field from the start so much more easily.

Indeed I feel that, for the game in general, because the AI's slowness is mostly due to poor cornering speeds, it will always be easier to beat them if you bring your own cornering speed down to their level as much as possible, with high weight and bad tyres, so they don't hold you up as much through corners, and then you can blast past them on the straights.

The other thing ballast does is it allows you to balance the car better. While more weight to the rear helps with getting traction in RWD cars, I feel that the game's physics making the back end swing out quite readily generally favours closer to 50:50 weight balance.

 

[hardvibes]

That race is literally one of the the easiest among all of the offline races. Bronze times in licenses included.

Just use the Toyota GR Supra Race Car '19 (rewarded after International B bronze license) with
racing hard tires
ECU down to 92 EDIT: keep it at 100, buy a power limiter and put it at 91%
front downforce at 183.

You don't need any other parts.

629,62 PP.
Done.

abs - on
stability control - on
countersteer aid - weak
brake balance -1
tcs 1
Done.

You can easily overtake all cars without bumping them in the first lap. Second place tries to overtake you between lap 2 and 5? Block him. You can easily get a 1:16.700 to 1:17.500 lap time with 2nd place 2-4 seconds behind you at the end of the race.
If you race clean like I said (without bumping into other cars) you bring home 97.500cr after 5 laps.

 

[boostdmarkii]

Yh I think I need to add a little bit of top speed to the gears since I bought nos cos I am hitting the red line on a few of the laps. I use a bit on the straight and then also hit it after the chicanes as well 🙂
Yh I hope they improve the tuning a bit more by adding more detailed graphs or mite be a long shot but if they added a dino that would be awesome! They are adding Sophy that companion AI thing so sounds like they are working on huge updates so no reason an improvement on tuning is unrealistic to think of 🤔


Yh that would be awesome! Send him on over and il give it a whirl. Its always fun to try out new cars and stuff 😁

That race is literally one of the the easiest among all of the offline races. Bronze times in licenses included.

Just use the Toyota GR Supra Race Car '19 (rewarded after International B bronze license) with
race hard tires
ECU down to 92
front downforce at 183.

You don't need any other parts.

629,98 PP.
Done.

abs - on
stability control - on
countersteer aid - weak
brake balance -1
tcs 1
Done.

You can easily overtake all cars without bumping them in the first lap. Second place tries to overtake you between lap 2 and 5? Block him. You can easily get a 1:16.700 to 1:17.500 lap time with 2nd place 2-4 seconds behind you at the end of the race.
If you race clean like I said (without bumping into other cars) you bring home 97.500cr after 5 laps.

if you buy a power restrictor instead of detuning the ecu you end up with more torque for the same horsepower number. i just had to buy one for like all of my cars the past couple days when i noticed the differences on everycar

 

[dabz343]

Replay of a 1.13.7xx on the final lap is now shared in GT7. Just search for dabz343, or u can send a friend request instead.

RH, no nitrous and just the lsd & gears tune.