i can drift with most stock fr cars on economy tires now that i got better at drifting. but when i first started i used the stock amuse s2000 r1 on economy tires. also i use the 86 mr2 supercharged for normal racing. i full tune it nd its pretty quick for a light car. i can go heads up or even faster cars like the saleen s7, slr mclaren, etc.