Which Would You Choose?

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Hello everyone.

I have been thinking about going to college for a few years to study a form of engineering, however today I found out I have the chance to visit Airbus (the airplane company) and hopefully have an interview to get a chance to have a 2 year apprenticeship at one of their factories. (With the possibility of a job at the end)

Now to me the Airbus seems like a no brainer, but if I studied engineering it would most likely leave the door open for more opportunities later on in life.

I just want to see what your thoughts and opinions would be and of course the one you would choose.

All answers are welcome.

Cheers.
 
You may want to find out what kind of education benefits Airbus offers. If they offer tuition reimbursement or some other kind of benefit you may be able to do both.
 
You may want to find out what kind of education benefits Airbus offers. If they offer tuition reimbursement or some other kind of benefit you may be able to do both.

The Airbus Factory isn't close (about 100 miles there and back) so I would struggle to do both. Also the Airbus apprenticeship is 5 days per week.

I would personally choose Airbus, but that's because I love planes. Which do you think you'd enjoy the most?

I feel I would enjoy Airbus more, but I'm also thinking into the future and what would be open to me then. It is a great opportunity that really doesn't come often but I would like to think about what will happen afterwards. For example, I have always thought about working with cars whether it be in a factory or garage. The engineering course would allow me to find my way into one of these jobs a little easier I would have thought.
 
The Airbus Factory isn't close (about 100 miles there and back) so I would struggle to do both. Also the Airbus apprenticeship is 5 days per week.



I feel I would enjoy Airbus more, but I'm also thinking into the future and what would be open to me then. It is a great opportunity that really doesn't come often but I would like to think about what will happen afterwards. For example, I have always thought about working with cars whether it be in a factory or garage. The engineering course would allow me to find my way into one of these jobs a little easier I would have thought.

Well, doing the engineering course will open up more options probably, and you may get the chance to do Airbus in the future. All things considered, I'd say, go for the engineering course.
 
The Airbus one would give you practical experience which would look great on your CV.

I would go Airbus personally.
 
The Airbus Factory isn't close (about 100 miles there and back) so I would struggle to do both. Also the Airbus apprenticeship is 5 days per week.

Which one, Filton or Broughton?

Filton is the design factory, Broughton is the assembly factory.
 
Ultimately, its your decision, but I'd go for the Airbus apprenticeship. You can't beat hands on experience, and if you show you're good at it, it may help you later down the line.
 
Broughton.

I live 5 minutes away from Broughton, and everybody I know who works there say it's great. And if you get a permanent job and work your way up the ladder, it pays handsomely too.

But I don't know whether you can learn while working.
 
Go for the apprenticeship. One of my close friends is in the middle of his apprenticeship with Rolls Royce. He gets a lot of perks and will get a job at the end of it.
Put going to college/uni as your plan B, as I think having an apprenticeship at a company like Airbus will be the option you will able to progress from.
Put it this way if your competing with another person for an engineering position. He has a degree in engineering, but you have 2 years of actual hand on experience working for the joint largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world. I know who I would employ :)

But ultimately it's up to you, listen to the advice here and take it into account. Perhaps write a list of the positives and negatives of each path you can take, weigh them up and make an informed decision.
 
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Do you have an exit plan? Though keep school in your plans if things don't work well.

My exit plan is to apply for both if I decide on one, then hopefully if I don't make it into one of them, there is always the other on standby.

Go for the apprenticeship. One of my close friends is in the middle of his apprenticeship with Rolls Royce working. He gets a lot of perks and will get a job at the end of it.
Put going to college/uni as your plan B, as I think having an apprenticeship at a company like Airbus will be the option you will able to progress from.
Put it this way if your competing with another person for an engineering position. He has a degree in engineering, but you have 2 years of actual hand on experience working for the joint largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world. I know who I would employ :)

But ultimately it's up to you, listen to the advice here and take it into account. Perhaps write a list of the positives and negatives of each path you can take, weigh them up and make an informed decision.

I really had a good think about this after I read it and your right, the part I underlined really helped and I will keep this in mind when making my decision. :)
 
Now, I can't offer any experience in regards to the situation in America, but I was in a similar situation (sort of) and went with the apprenticeship. Around here, you won't get anywhere without practical experience, so that's where the apprenticeship shines. However, getting into a good position within a company is all but impossible without at least a bachelor's degree under your belt.

Personally, I'll probably try to get the degree once my apprenticeship is finished, as my employer offers me some considerable support, especially when it comes to tuition fees. If I was in the position to chose again, I'd probably go with university first, though. Especially if I was able to stay with my perents (which I wasn't, but still).

Unless, of course, hands-on experience is valued more in the US than it around here. If that's more important to get into a better position than a degree, I'd go with the apprenticeship.
 
I was thinking about if the apprentice ship didn't work out. You could just go to school, though the experience helps a lot in finding jobs.
 
Also you say you want to work with cars in the future if you end up leaving Airbus?

Progress through Airbus and they might give you funding to do an aerodynamics degree or something else that covers the motor industry as well.
 
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I was thinking about if the apprentice ship didn't work out. You could just go to school, though the experience helps a lot in finding jobs.

I would be able to apply for college again but after 6 months of applying for the first time. I think

Also you say you want to work with cars in the future if you end up leaving Airbus?

Progress through Airbus and they might give you funding to do an aerodynamics degree or something else that covers the motor industry as well.

Well thats the aim, the good thing about the Broughton Airbus Factory is it works on the wings (anything from the A320's to the A380's) so aerodynamic features will be essential so it doesn't create too much drag etc.
 
You should choose engineering school, assuming engineering is what you want to do as a career.

From what it sounds like, an apprenticeship at Airbus will essentially make you a machinist/assemblyman/sealer or something like that. Those are highly skilled jobs, but they won't be part of the engineering design process. If you want to do anything engineering related, you'll need an engineering degree. Hands on machinist experience won't get you there.

I would argue that although it is possible to get to a good place in the company just being a machinist, in a technical firm such as Airbus, it will be much harder to move very far without at least a bachelor's degree, preferably one in an engineering discipline.


Put it this way if your competing with another person for an engineering position. He has a degree in engineering, but you have 2 years of actual hand on experience working for the joint largest aeroplane manufacturer in the world. I know who I would employ :)

Depending on what the apprenticeship actually entails. If it is a manufacturing apprenticeships, he will just be doing the physical work of manufacturing parts of the airplane. If I was looking for a machinist, I would certainly hire someone with that experience. If I'm looking for an engineer, I would not hire him because he doesn't have an engineering degree, irregardless of his experience at Airbus.


Now, I can't offer any experience in regards to the situation in America, but I was in a similar situation (sort of) and went with the apprenticeship. Around here, you won't get anywhere without practical experience, so that's where the apprenticeship shines. However, getting into a good position within a company is all but impossible without at least a bachelor's degree under your belt.

Personally, I'll probably try to get the degree once my apprenticeship is finished, as my employer offers me some considerable support, especially when it comes to tuition fees. If I was in the position to chose again, I'd probably go with university first, though. Especially if I was able to stay with my perents (which I wasn't, but still).

I think the bolded part is especially true; but I think there are many ways to get hands on, practical experience in school (internships, co-ops, etc). A bachelor's is going to be very important to helping you get to a good place in a company.

Well thats the aim, the good thing about the Broughton Airbus Factory is it works on the wings (anything from the A320's to the A380's) so aerodynamic features will be essential so it doesn't create too much drag etc.

Double check for sure, but I doubt you'll be doing any actual aerodynamics design work in your apprenticeship. That plant likely just manufactures things based on the design created by engineering division in Toulouse. Sure there will be some manufacturing engineers there to help solve manufacturing problems and better the system, but they are going to be a small population, and I'm not sure that's what the apprenticeship entails.
 
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