Who is a controller only player?

[Lightpilgrim]

Guys, I learning my way here. I wanted to ask who of you is a controller only player? And who are the fastest guys on a controller?

It is helpful to watch and learn from everyone because principles are universal, however playing with a controller vs a wheel is completely different.

Also, I wanted to master trail breaking. How do you do it on a controller? What do you do to learn?

 

[Meythia]

You can look through the sheets of the TTs

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@half_sourly put in the effort, and this also includes which steering option was used (if mentioned).

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Thanks. I went to that thread and unable to find any data that indicates who is setting a time on a controller. Where do you see it?

I know that @imChris is a controller player. I am sure there are many more

 

[ScottPuss20]

Thanks. I went to that thread and unable to find any data that indicates who is setting a time on a controller. Where do you see it?

I know that @imChris is a controller player. I am sure there are many more

Third column of the GTP scoreboard.

 

[half_sourly]

Thanks. I went to that thread and unable to find any data that indicates who is setting a time on a controller. Where do you see it?

I know that @imChris is a controller player. I am sure there are many more

Go to the Excel sheet attached to any results post.

 

[Meythia]

it is in the individual challenges.
For example

 

[SPDN Stefano]

The only advice I have is to turn the haptic feedback effects of the triggers off if you haven't done so already.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

The only advice I have is to turn the haptic feedback effects of the triggers off if you haven't done so already.

Can you explain why? I tried on and off and I feel I am faster with haptic on

Ok, I see now! Great help, thank you! So top 100 are called aliens for real? :-) and some are controller players. Good. Really interested on the fastest time on a controller for the current Daytona TT

 

[half_sourly]

In the group on the time trial thread there are many very fast controller drivers like @Gomario JSP @NAXEHT @Hasnain282 @Mistah_MCA @Barareklam who I'm sure would offer advice.

 

[SPDN Stefano]

Can you explain why? I tried on and off and I feel I am faster with haptic on

I think it helps with consistency and trail braking to not have these artificial effects going on in the triggers. Also the effects differ from car to car so you have to adjust all the time. If you just turn it off it makes life easier.

I am not a top 100 player tho, so maybe you shouldn't take my advice anyway. I don't know which settings the top guys use tbh.

 

[imChris]

Also, I wanted to master trail breaking. How do you do it on a controller? What do you do to learn?

Trail braking works the same on both controller and wheel. Tidgney has a good tutorial on it:



Edit: the physics have changed a lot since he made the video but the same principles apply

 

[ShonnDaylee]

The only advice I have is to turn the haptic feedback effects of the triggers off if you haven't done so already.

A non issue for me, as I use the triggers for shifting (so, no haptics by default) and the right stick for gas/brake. The classic Gran Turismo method.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

A non issue for me, as I use the triggers for shifting (so, no haptics by default) and the right stick for gas/brake. The classic Gran Turismo method.

Trigger for shifting? I have X and Square for shifting, right stick for steering and triggers for gas and break

 

[ShonnDaylee]

Trigger for shifting? I have X and Square for shifting, right stick for steering and triggers for gas and break

I use left stick for steering, right stick for gas/brake (up for gas/down for brake), and triggers for shifting (R2: shift up, L2: shift down). It's an old school Gran Turismo setup that started with the introduction of the first Dual Shock controller in GT2, I believe. Old habits die hard.

 

[Barareklam]

Regarding haptic feedback on DualSense, I definitely have it on, on Strong, that is the feedback we have on controller and I have to give kudos to PD for doing really good job there. I remember it was one challenge, Deep Forest with Shelby , one could literally feel tires sliding (losing grip) on your fingertips on the trigger, so I recommend it ON.

 

[Fezzik]

I use the back paddles for shifting. Quite an expensive method, could've just bought a wheel

 

[Hasnain282]

Best way to learn is through practice and repetition
Guides like Tidgney's will give you the theory but then you have to apply that
The licenses and circuit experiences are good for this as they give you different types of corners that you can repeat again and again so I would repeat those focusing on one section at a time until you're happy to move on to the next one
Also don't be afraid to go over the limits, unless you're in a race there are no consequences for messing up here

 

[05XR8]

I have haptic feedback on. I mean, that's what it does, gives me feedback.

Comparing when I started on PS4 and switching to PS5 it's like PSVR2 for the fingers.

Edit: Oh, my controller map.

• L2 Brake
• R2 Accelerator
• L3 Steering
• R3(pull back) look behind, when not using PSVR2
• Square Downshift
• Circle Upshift
• L1 Lights or DRS or Boost for Super Formula
• Triangle Wipers
• X Handbrake
• R1 Lights if using a car with DRS

 

[Meythia]

I use the back paddles for shifting. Quite an expensive method, could've just bought a wheel

Edge or 3rd party?

 

[half_sourly]

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Guys - thanks massively for your inputs! It really helps a lot to learn and not go in circles alone.

 

[Gomario JSP]

Can you explain why? I tried on and off and I feel I am faster with haptic on

Ok, I see now! Great help, thank you! So top 100 are called aliens for real? :-) and some are controller players. Good. Really interested on the fastest time on a controller for the current Daytona TT

i will give you my advice as a controller user, you can be realy competitive on the controller once you get the hang of it,

Lets start with the haptic feedback......, off???? certainly not, the haptic is your feeling with the car, use it at your advantage.
Braking without haptic is a no go if you ask me and if you want to master the trailbraking you have to have some feeling on brake pressure.

Personally i did spend quite some time learning the nescessairy pressure for a certain amount of throttle and brake, throttle it the easiest so i would start there, drive around a few second on 25% throttle...go to 75% for a few second and back to 50% for a while, and do the same for braking, it let's you get the idea of howmany pressure you have to apply.

Trailbraking is difficult on the pad and hands-exhausting on some combo's ( like the last Eiger Nordwand ) but very doable if you can steady release pressure on the trigger 😁
Depends on how you use the controller though, i'm shifting with L1+R1 with my indexfingers and throttle/brake with the middelvingers 😂

 

[HarVee]

I'm a controller user, but I use the right stick for throttle/brake so haptic feedback means little to me. I've just never been fond of driving with the triggers (any game, not just GT7), while yes, it's closer to actual car pedals than the stick is, I just find I'm faster with stick since my finger doesn't rest on the brake trigger preventing me from accidently pressing it.

 

[ShonnDaylee]

I'm a controller user, but I use the right stick for throttle/brake so haptic feedback means little to me. I've just never been fond of driving with the triggers (any game, not just GT7), while yes, it's closer to actual car pedals than the stick is, I just find I'm faster with stick since my finger doesn't rest on the brake trigger preventing me from accidently pressing it.

Same here. My biggest problem with using the triggers for gas/brake is the lack of a good option (at least in my estimation) for shifting. Using the face buttons for shifting just seems weird. Using the triggers for shifting is just so natural, as it's the closest amalgam to a real car (flappy paddles). Not only that, but I've been using this controller layout since GT2 (on PS1), so I'm kind of set in my ways, you might say...lol

I also have a rig with a Logitech G923 setup, which I use about a 3rd of the time. I just don't always feel like getting in the rig.

 

[Lightpilgrim]

Same here. My biggest problem with using the triggers for gas/brake is the lack of a good option (at least in my estimation) for shifting. Using the face buttons for shifting just seems weird. Using the triggers for shifting is just so natural, as it's the closest amalgam to a real car (flappy paddles). Not only that, but I've been using this controller layout since GT2 (on PS1), so I'm kind of set in my ways, you might say...lol

I also have a rig with a Logitech G923 setup, which I use about a 3rd of the time. I just don't always feel like getting in the rig.

I think it is just habits.

 

[ScottPuss20]

In the group on the time trial thread there are many very fast controller drivers like @Gomario JSP @NAXEHT @Hasnain282 @Mistah_MCA @Barareklam who I'm sure would offer advice.

I should be a part of this group.

 

[Wilsonson]

A non issue for me, as I use the triggers for shifting (so, no haptics by default) and the right stick for gas/brake. The classic Gran Turismo method.

I started using this method back in GT3 because it was the best option available. Stuck with it on the PS3 games because I could not get a good grip on L2/R2 on the DS3 and also because the only benefit was the added ability for throttle overlap to stabilize nervous breakers. But I didn't even know the technique back then and still rarely use it.

When I got a PS5 and tried the Dual Sense triggers including the haptic feedback for the first time I was literally blown away. It is so far beyond the DS3 it is hard to put into words. Switched immediately and never looked back. The default X and square for gears work well for me.

…, i'm shifting with L1+R1 with my indexfingers and throttle/brake with the middelvingers 😂

Great advice from this guy as always but literally 😮
I thought you had an edge as well and used the extra pedals for shifting.

How in the world do you hold a steady grip like that and how do you have that much sensitivity in your middle finger. I usually feel like smash index finger on the trigger and abruptly release it is all I'm capable of. 😂

 

[Gomario JSP]

Great advice from this guy as always but literally 😮
I thought you had an edge as well and used the extra pedals for shifting.

How in the world do you hold a steady grip like that and how do you have that much sensitivity in your middle finger. I usually feel like smash index finger on the trigger and abruptly release it is all I'm capable of. 😂

Apparently i used my middelvinger a lot in life 😂 😂
On combo's with a lot of trailbraking i'm having a hard time to tbh, the Lancer we had at Nordwand was killing for me and hands were cramping up a little.

But since GT7 i swiched from X/O throttle/brake to the triggers ( on ps4 back then ) just because i played GTA this way grip-wise..
( yes i'm from 81' and had lots of fun playing that 😂😂 )

So grip feels natural in a way, but had to adapt big time with the haptics on the PS5, at first they felt very strong but now have a extra trained middelfinger 😂

So no edge for me, just a Dualsense wich does squeek if i'm trying to make a corner and have understeer 😂

 

[Scuderia Paul]

I only use controller despite having a decent wheel set-up as GT7 feels quite a casual racing game to me. Having played AC and ACC for years I look at GT as my relaxing approach to racing.

 

[GTboyz]

Controller only player here, though I'm not fast enough only hot lapping cars.

Haptic feedback is a must IMO