Why am I so slow ?????????

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Tuned is a low 1.41's after hours, I see people on here getting into the later 1.37/1.38's with a controller.

I have tried playing with the traction control settings but I seem to be over steering everywhere.

I am using automatic gears , is it time I changed ?

Any tips ?:nervous:
 
Tuned is a low 1.41's after hours, I see people on here getting into the later 1.37/1.38's with a controller.

I have tried playing with the traction control settings but I seem to be over steering everywhere.

I am using automatic gears , is it time I changed ?

Any tips ?:nervous:

Manual is so much quicker, and I find it much quicker with all assists off too. I'm playing with a DS3 too
 
Tuned is a low 1.41's after hours, I see people on here getting into the later 1.37/1.38's with a controller.

I have tried playing with the traction control settings but I seem to be over steering everywhere.

I am using automatic gears , is it time I changed ?

Any tips ?:nervous:

I'd recommend Manual, yes.
You can keep it out of second that way, except for the hairpin S-curve. Goes a long way.

You'll need to start using less throttle, and with braking, you can't go full on the brakes and crank the wheel entering corners, you'll either need to ease off the brakes as you enter, or brake before you turn.
Try to make the transition between gas/brakes/steering as gentle and smooth as possible, you'll improve.
Don't feel to bad, there's very few up there, even for me, I'll struggle to get 1.38's, if I can, I'm currently at 1:39.4xx, so I'm aiming for a 1:38.6 or so, at best.

Also, try watching the fastest replay you can get, that usually helps too.
 
If you love slamming on pedals (as me) this isn't the demo for you. It's all about been sweet with the throttle, which I hate.
Got 1.38.0 something anyway :D
 
I loaded the best ghost replay last night and averaged a lose of -1 sec every 20mins . Keep going and you'll get consistently reduced times .I am by no means up there with the best ,but things can be improved by following good lap times
 
If you love slamming on pedals (as me) this isn't the demo for you. It's all about been sweet with the throttle, which I hate.
Got 1.38.0 something anyway :D

Yeah my car is forever squirming under acceleration, I calmed it down and got .5 of a second on the last corner before the banking, before I'd struggle to get the power down but now I go in calmer and get the car straight before full throttle
 
Well at least you get the point of how deep the GT Demo is in physics department. In real life it may be easy do drive a car, but to drive a car as fast as possible and not crush is a whole another story. So congrats on the newly GT game, and practice, practice, practice.
 
I'd recommend Manual, yes.
You can keep it out of second that way, except for the hairpin S-curve. Goes a long way.

You'll need to start using less throttle, and with braking, you can't go full on the brakes and crank the wheel entering corners, you'll either need to ease off the brakes as you enter, or brake before you turn.
Try to make the transition between gas/brakes/steering as gentle and smooth as possible, you'll improve.
Don't feel to bad, there's very few up there, even for me, I'll struggle to get 1.38's, if I can, I'm currently at 1:39.4xx, so I'm aiming for a 1:38.6 or so, at best.

Also, try watching the fastest replay you can get, that usually helps too.

Cheers dude, I may miss the pub tonight (as theres snow here and it's very cold) and stay in and practice
 
just a quick question,

im currently racing the normal 370z, and when i look at the traction control settings its greyed out at 7? is that the same for you guys or can you adjust it
 
I downloaded Mad84d's ghost demo and he knocked seconds off my time. I learnt a better racing line and as others have said I have better control over the throttle. The key is that as you go out of the turn you slowly turn up the throttle so that by the end of the turn you have full throttle read to power out.
 
@NI55AN

traction control on the standard car isn't configurable, this is true if you're playing with a controller rather than a wheel

the tuned car is configurable with a controller or a wheel.
 
I've been using a pad on automatic like yourself and haven't broke 1:40 yet, so you're not some crappy driver or anything. Lol thanks for making this topic though so now I can piggyback on this useful advice : P .
 
try watching the fastest replay you can get, that usually helps too

I'm suffering too. Where are replays uploaded too? Been out the loop for a while and can't find it mentioned anywhere.
 
look though the rankings and just select a user and you have the option to watch or save their replay/ghost.
 
How can you tell if times have been set by controller or by wheel as i saw someone claim earlier they had the fastest time with a controller. But i haven't been able to see any option to show controller/wheel, etc...
 
Hi there, am new to the forums.

I will most likely get a wheel by next week. My time has been around 1.41 too and watching some of the top replays I can tell where the DS3 is lacking. Would be nice if some of the better drivers could post some quick tips.
 
How can you tell if times have been set by controller or by wheel as i saw someone claim earlier they had the fastest time with a controller. But i haven't been able to see any option to show controller/wheel, etc...

If you hit x(I think it's x) on an individuals name on the leaderboards, it will say 900 degree wheel or controller. I really like how they added this, it will let people know if a wheel will make them faster or not. I scrolled through the top 25 or so guys and I think only 2 of them were not using a wheel.
 
Modulate steering aswell as throttle. Some of the corners you have to brake earlier than the driving line indicates and power out of the apex.

If you take a wide line out of a corner you can be a little harder on the throttle. Always counter steer when you feel the car is on the edge of grip.

The best advice i can give though is practice. For my first ~15 laps i was lapping above 1'40 in the tuned car, then within the space of 3 or 4 laps i got it down to 1'38.6xx. Theres still a lot of time to come out of that. When i run a 1'40 lap it certainly doesn't feel slow, and i can do clean laps over 1'41, its just a matter of being smooth and getting your lines right.
 
This is kind of repeating what the others have said, but what the heck. Two things go hand in hand to make for the fastest laps.
  • Proper gas and brake modulation. Don't have a heavy foot. Press the pedals as gradually as you can, especially accelerating through turns.
  • Steer as gently as possible, meaning, work to make your turns using the least wheel/controller movement you can. Straighter wheels mean more grip and faster speeds.
Also, learn to coordinate your acceleration with your turning. Giving either car a lot of gas when your wheels are cranked will just get you spun out. As I said, you can give it more gas the straighter your wheels are. You can also give it more gas in a higher gear, such as 3rd instead of 2nd. But you should just use this to get your racing line down, and then focus on having your car in the proper gear. You'll accelerate slightly faster, and shave tenths of a second off your time.

Finally, learn to drive in manual transmission mode, and if you use traction control, wean yourself off of it. This will probably be one of the biggest time savers for you.

This is common knowledge to the PC sim racers, but then, this is very much like a PC sim now, so you have to unlearn all your bad console racing habits and treat this thing like a real car.
 
Here are some tips for you:

-Watch other players' ghost laps

-Make sure TCS is 0 for the tuned car (I shaved half a second off my time with this)

-Perfecting the normal car first and getting a good time with it is best to do first as you have to learn to be careful with the car. Then when you get to the tuned car you will be overwhelmed by the amount of grip you have and have a lot more confidence

-Never turn into a corner while braking heavily (eg. the end of main straight). Tapping the breaks is sometimes better at certain parts of the course.

-Accelerating out of corners should be very gradual and only full once the wheels are straight or almost straight


I understand it can be tough to see the times getting lower and lower but just keep at it. I've improved everyday and I'm still no where near the best times in the world. I am current 4th in my country (Ireland) and currently ahead of Ordonez and Yamauchi who also improve each day. My time is 3'26.856. I hope to reach a low '26 over the next week or so.

Best of luck
 
Some good tips there. In the end it all comes out to practicing more. Also, if doing the same thing doesn't improve times, trying a different approach could help a lot.
 
This is kind of repeating what the others have said, but what the heck. Two things go hand in hand to make for the fastest laps.
  • Proper gas and brake modulation. Don't have a heavy foot. Press the pedals as gradually as you can, especially accelerating through turns.
  • Steer as gently as possible, meaning, work to make your turns using the least wheel/controller movement you can. Straighter wheels mean more grip and faster speeds.
Also, learn to coordinate your acceleration with your turning. Giving either car a lot of gas when your wheels are cranked will just get you spun out. As I said, you can give it more gas the straighter your wheels are. You can also give it more gas in a higher gear, such as 3rd instead of 2nd. But you should just use this to get your racing line down, and then focus on having your car in the proper gear. You'll accelerate slightly faster, and shave tenths of a second off your time.

Finally, learn to drive in manual transmission mode, and if you use traction control, wean yourself off of it. This will probably be one of the biggest time savers for you.

This is common knowledge to the PC sim racers, but then, this is very much like a PC sim now, so you have to unlearn all your bad console racing habits and treat this thing like a real car.

Hey, you probably right and all, but I've seen a few guys on leaderboards ( I think even topten ) with traction controll set from anything about 3 to 10 (tuned car, pad users this is)... so I'm not sure about that. Still trying to figure out best setting for me, my best lap so far was with TC on 5, however I try to reduce it gradually, as I don't really like it . :)


You have to watch the replays. This is quite different then previous iterations of GT and its much more realistic lol

IMO this is much more GT (especially the replays :drool:) than prologue ever was... I always complained about Prologue being not right somehow... now I'm happy! :-)
 
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I tried yesterday and I absolutely sucked at it. I thought it would be a walk in the park because I did so well in other GT games, but it's definitely hard.

So I have a sixaxis and I was having a lot of trouble. I was on automatic and using L2 and R2 for throttle and braking, and the d-pad for steering. My biggest problem is exiting a turn, when I'll most of the times allow the car to lose grip and get a really slow entry speed into the straightaways. I tried tapping the throttle, doing it smoothly, but nothing seemed to work. And the funny thing is that my best laps were when I put traction control to 9. I'm trying it again tomorrow, so should I try steering with the analog stick to have a more precise steering input? Any other thing I should try?
 
should I try steering with the analog stick to have a more precise steering input? Any other thing I should try?
I would definitely give that a try. I always use the analogue stick for steering, but today I had a go with the direction buttons. I was OK, but found I was having to correct the steering far too much compared to when I use the stick. Like real racing, this game is all about the corners, and it does take a lot of re-learning your techniques to get anywhere near half-decent lap times. I'm still quite slow, but am much more consistent now, and gradually learning when I'm going wrong.

Load one of the top players ghosts to learn the best lines etc. and see where you are going wrong. I think that fundamentally, whether you are on a pad, wheel, high or low traction, automatic, or manual, going fast has more to do with how you hit the racing line and smoothly get the car around the corners without it sliding around. Only when you can manage that will the actual control method start to make a significant difference.
 
Cheers for all the advice, I got into the 1.39's with the tuned and the 1.53's with your advice. Today I moved up about 6 tenths by trying to be more gentle with the throttle application, im finding the stock the hardest, turning and accelerating just makes the back end squirm
 
I use the pad and for acceleration I'm not too bad but could be better, keeping it under control is mostly ok but i'm not as close to the limit as I could be (improving with practice). The problem I have is under braking and tying to get the car to slow down consistently when being a bit more gentle. I can put in fairly consistent laps time after time when being hard on the brakes and using earlier braking points but I think that's hurting my time a fair bit and will probably be a bit of a problem when tyre wear comes into it, anyone got any tips on that?
 
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