Why are steering wheel NOOBies so hard on them???

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rsmithdrift

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I don't understand why people I let use the wheel attack it like that. They throw the steering wheel so hard it SMASHES into the stopper at 900* with a big crackling BANG. and stomp the pedals so hard it flips over........like if they go farther it'll help or something. And they YANK the shfiter so hard it comes off the table it's attached to.

WTF?? Even people who have been driving for years in real life just go into kill mode like if they can make it go farther than the stoppers it'll help or something. They don't even drive real cars that hard.

I've learned to keep my hand near the wheel so when I see them TOSSING it I just grab it and say "Knock it off......Chill out......You don't have to kill it. Drive smooth like you would in real life. The harder you fight it the harder it'll fight you, all your going to do throwing it around like that is be slow and break the wheel."

I just don't understand people some times....:dunce:

Anybody else notice this??
 
of course! If I let this one friend of my daughter try (he's a GT freak) Its like he never played the game! He has crazy skills and timing with a game pad, but with the wheel he tries to drive like hes a gangster with 1 hand on top of the wheel, and of course stomping on the brake and gas. Hes a great kid but he thinks Movies like fast and furious are real....He did give my pedals the ghost brake 2 times...finally i told him to just put the car in 3rd and try to make at least 1 lap! and use 2 hands, he got better. they just dont get it, and I'm like, you couldnt drive a real car like that!
 
rsmithdrift
I don't understand why people I let use the wheel attack it like that. They throw the steering wheel so hard it SMASHES into the stopper at 900* with a big crackling BANG. and stomp the pedals so hard it flips over........like if they go farther it'll help or something. And they YANK the shfiter so hard it comes off the table it's attached to.

WTF?? Even people who have been driving for years in real life just go into kill mode like if they can make it go farther than the stoppers it'll help or something. They don't even drive real cars that hard.

I've learned to keep my hand near the wheel so when I see them TOSSING it I just grab it and say "Knock it off......Chill out......You don't have to kill it. Drive smooth like you would in real life. The harder you fight it the harder it'll fight you, all your going to do throwing it around like that is be slow and break the wheel."

I just don't understand people some times....:dunce:

Anybody else notice this??
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I've been there quite a few times myself, so I know the agony you were feeling! :-)

I've had many of friends and co-workers take a few laps in my race-rig and with the exception of 1, maybe 2 people, the overall majority of people just don't know how to translate 'real life driving' to 'console driving', for a lack of better words. They either do what your friends do.....jerk the wheel back N forth till it bangs up against the internal 'lock' and makes a loud noise, or they stomp on the pedals, assuming they're just as sturdy as the ones they use in their RL cars! Matter of fact, it was because of this issue that made me upgrade the stock DFP Pedals to those offered by ECCI
 
Shadow Wulf 2k
I must be lucky. I let my roommate and the guys next door at college use it, they drive it like they were driving a regular car.
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It's that way here except for when my sis' goes back and forth, though its not too violent. But Dave, Micheal, and anyone else whose used it drove pretty good. Then again, I hang out with a lot of car guys. Not GT freaks by any means, but good sim players.

I suggest any of you guys who are thinking about buying the G25 wheel, keep those guys away from it.
 
Whell,i have seen that kind of driving in action,and believe me,it's not good for wheel,i don't have the wheel,but my friend's one is nearly dead beacuse of that kind of his brother's driving:tdown:
 
You know that sticker that comes with the DFP that has the picture of the kid reaching to touch the thing with his hand under the slashed circle? Well, I interpret that to mean immature people - not just children. Usually, when other people come over, I hide the thing from them and just use a DS2 (if they find it, I just tell them it's not working).
 
it's because in theory they don't jave to worry about buying a new one if it brakes, think about it lets say you get a new hockey stick; for a while you won't want to shoot too hard with it, but use a friend's and you'll play like a bat out of he11.
 
poo_head
it's because in theory they don't jave to worry about buying a new one if it brakes, think about it lets say you get a new hockey stick; for a while you won't want to shoot too hard with it, but use a friend's and you'll play like a bat out of he11.
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Sorry, but I can't agree with that. I'm a DS2 man, and I've been playing with a DFP of my friend once in a while. I also noticed that I'm way too hard and edgy with it, which does not at all go with my driving style in real life, nor does it help my time. It is a thing you're unconscious of, a thing you do automatically. I think it has to do with trying to control the car as much as possible and therefor being vigorous with the controls.
For me personally, it's also a controller thing. When you use the DS2, your car control is way more unsmooth and edgy than with the wheel (I use the buttons, not the analogue sticks by the way). That's the driving style I'm used to, so that's how I try to drive with the wheel as well, as long as I'm not used to it. I know it's strange for regular wheelers, but it's not an unnatural thing.

Regards
the Interceptor
 
i used to have a wheel but it stopped working, maybe it was because it was put through so much stress when someone else used it, i think it is just them getting used to the transition between the controller and the steering wheel.
 
Nobody uses my wheel but me, and perhaps my dad, but He uses a wheel on the PC so he knows how to treat it. I hada wheel for the PS1 that I let my cousin use, and he actually slammed it against the stops that hard that he actually broke them. I then had a wheel with infinite rotation, but no steering input. Needless to say he hasn't touched my new wheel.
 
rsmithdrift
I don't understand why people I let use the wheel attack it like that. They throw the steering wheel so hard it SMASHES into the stopper at 900* with a big crackling BANG. and stomp the pedals so hard it flips over........like if they go farther it'll help or something. And they YANK the shfiter so hard it comes off the table it's attached to.

WTF?? Even people who have been driving for years in real life just go into kill mode like if they can make it go farther than the stoppers it'll help or something. They don't even drive real cars that hard.

I've learned to keep my hand near the wheel so when I see them TOSSING it I just grab it and say "Knock it off......Chill out......You don't have to kill it. Drive smooth like you would in real life. The harder you fight it the harder it'll fight you, all your going to do throwing it around like that is be slow and break the wheel."

I just don't understand people some times....:dunce:

Anybody else notice this??
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Thats 1 of the funniest things ive ever heard. Not what its talking about but the way u put it lol.

Well im gonna buy A wheel for my ps2 soon and i may regret it as i do have some mates that have nearly broken my pc wheel lol. Its funny how people change wen they use wheels etc lol
 


Hi SimRaceDriver,

Wow, I just took a look at the pictures you have with your steering wheel
setup.👍 Man, you have one nice setup, alright.👍 I use the MC2
steering wheel, for my driving games, but I don't have a driving cockpit.
Geeez, you certinly have alot of cash in your setup, and you also have the
room in your place to leave it setup, which is great.:) I'm disabled and live
on disability, but if I could afford a setup like you have, my wife would
probably divorce me, cause I would spend more hours than I do now, playing
GT4 and my Nascar Game.👍 Way to go, and just remember, keep the
rubber side down.👍
 
Aus Rotten
he tries to drive like hes a gangster with 1 hand on top of the wheel!
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Ummm, how is that driving like a gangster? I drive that way on my FF wheel in all my games and find it easier to steer the wheel than having two hands on it at 9 O'clock-3 O'clock
 
isamu
Ummm, how is that driving like a gangster? I drive that way on my FF wheel in all my games and find it easier to steer the wheel than having two hands on it at 9 O'clock-3 O'clock
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If you were racing as you should be (and properly) you can cut alot of time off your laps
 
Darkstallion
If you were racing as you should be (and properly) you can cut alot of time off your laps
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Interesting. I've never given that any thought. You're saying having two hands on the wheel would improve my driving vs one hand on the wheel?
 
basicaly yes. Depending on the wheel you are using to can determine the difference. DFP can improve alot if your your 9-3 hand placement. You can let the wheel slide through your hands (hope you get wat i mean lol)
 
It depends on more factors than simply which wheel you are using. A fast, twitchy, hard-to-control car on a twisty, tricky course that requires a lot of steering input, with a noob behind the wheel would probably see some improvement in laptimes with a switch to two-hand driving. But it might not.

On the other hand, a slow, friendly, easy-to-control car on a wide, easy course with an experienced driver behind the wheel wouldn't see much of a difference at all between one-hand-driving or two. Then again, it might.

Of course, there are many other examples between these two extremes. Personally, I just keep one hand near the shifter and one on the wheel, unless I'm navigating a tricky corner.

rsmithdrift
I don't understand why people I let use the wheel attack it like that......

....Anybody else notice this??
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Yep. Believe me, you and your wheel are not even close to being the only victims.

I work at an arcade, where it seems like the Cruisin' World/Exotica "tap the gas twice to get a boost" trick has every customer convinced that every other racing game in the entire store works the same way, and that they should try stomping harder if it doesn't work the first time. The wheel-stop banging is another issue, and has actually led to a persistent problem with the force-feedback/wheel-input board on one of our Wangan Midnight Maximum Tune machines. Finally, there's the shifter-slamming, which takes one side of Daytona USA out of commission every other month and has me worried about WMMT.

It doesn't stop at racing games, either. Fighting games are tortured with joystick-wrenching and button smashing/slapping, and Konami was smart enough to make Dance Dance Revolution's arrow pads so strong that they're bullet-proof when brand-new...



...no wonder people are amazed that our electronic scale is sensitive enough to detect and count individual paper tickets at the prize booth. :rolleyes:
 
Yeah, I let my friends use my wheel, aside from the total inability to just let go of the wheel when pushing it pass 200 degrees (they let their arms cross over like a pretzel!), they would beat the hell out of it, I mean, my stick shifter was cracked because of my cousin, and my first wheel meet it's death after my friend was "drifting".

No one besides myself and my brother are allowed to use the wheel now.
 
this was a pretty old threaad, but you have a point.
I didnt even know there was a strong 900 degree lock, then again, none of my friens have come over yet :ouch:
my mom, dad, and little/older sisters were fine on it though...
 
Have I noticed this? Oh yeah, very much so. It's crazy, really. I let my friend use my wheel for the first time and she was just short of awful. Why IS it so hard?
 
Aus Rotten
of course! If I let this one friend of my daughter try (he's a GT freak) Its like he never played the game! He has crazy skills and timing with a game pad, but with the wheel he tries to drive like hes a gangster with 1 hand on top of the wheel, and of course stomping on the brake and gas. Hes a great kid but he thinks Movies like fast and furious are real....He did give my pedals the ghost brake 2 times...finally i told him to just put the car in 3rd and try to make at least 1 lap! and use 2 hands, he got better. they just dont get it, and I'm like, you couldnt drive a real car like that!
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Dude I drive with one hand on the wheel and one hand on the shifter, unless im using a hard to control car, i`m rallying or i`m TRYING to drift. Its not acting like a gangster because i know alot of very expierienced drivers and the y drive like that.
 
Now I think of it,
I went from a G25 to a real car, my driving was very smooth.
And when I saw some other people driving --> not so smooth.
maybe it's an illusion but I learn the smoother the better aka faster.


about one hand driving, almost all the time i have my hand on the shifter.
but my driving is better using 2 hands when it gets tricky
 
My brother does this kind of thing with a Universal Rumble Wheel. It's that really sucky wheel that nobody likes. He spun it hard enough to send it flying into the dining room. I had it tied down. O well... That thing sucked anyway.
 
Same with my G25. In games that support it, I always have my hand on the shifter and the other on the wheel. Come to think about it, how do you even hit the stopping point for the while going fast. It might just be because im only using one hand though.

I have my G25 set up perfectly with 70lbs of weight holding one of the supports down, and 50lbs of weight on top of the other support, It would be quite hard to send that setup flying :lol:
 
my G25's lossened up heap's and has a little bit of a dead zone now becouse of some mates thrashing the day's out of it. Atleast now we know were the saying "Slamming it through the gear's" comes from lol:(
 

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