Why do people generally hate 4WD drifters?

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seanneedscar
Most of these nerds dont even consider 4wd to be drifting, but 'powersliding'

On top of this, (and you cant deny this) 4wd drifting is considerably easier than rwd. Face it, its easy mode. Hey, I prefer 4WD drifting myself, but you cannot deny that it is easier. Youre more in control.
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An accidental slip of the 4WD car into the way out of the corner happens because they're more likely to suffer with the understeering stemming from approach to the curving at an excessive speed, which is insufficient to make a turn safely and facily, and the type of the drive mounted for the car has something to do with this too(4 wheels cars are not presumably assumed to be able to pull up so quickly for their weightiness and unnecessariness of running a paved path faster like their MT-mounted counterparts intended for street conditions instead of battles on gravel).

Drifting with a 4WD asks the driver for his handy control as they're heavier than other driven cars being attracted to the outer side of the track.
 
Yes it is possible, but it's not anywhere as easy as RWD drifting (IRL).

End of the day, I set the drivetrain requirements in my room. If you don't like it, leave! Don't ask me to change settings then continuously bitch at me coz i won't change it.

To be honest it comes to 1 thing for me. I rarely drift alone, I drift in tandems. RWD is the best way to do so. 4wd just ends up in ridiculous crashes and arguments when you try tandem. That's my biggest problem. 4wd drifters trying to tandem with RWD. It always ends up in crash..
 
I imagine it's very difficult to drift a 500+ BHP car using a controller pad. I use a steering wheel, it's boring and crap with 4WD.
 
Mac K
Is it even possible to drift a real 4WD car? I know it's just a game, but that might be the reason why a lot of people dislike it.
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Yes, you can. :D Just watch this:




Guys who are complaining about 4WD drifters are morons, really. To be able to drift like that you need to set your LSD to maybe 20/80 or 10/90, so it's nearly all (the most) traction to the rear wheels, like on a RWD car. :sly:

You can complain, but you can't change the fact that 4WD cars are the best, ingame & IRL. Haters gonna hate, everytime when they getting owned by a 4WD car. :lol:
 
That`s the reason car insurance is going sky high, because the little boys in their chav chariots, see those Ken Block vids, then go to the local maccies & try to copy him in the carpark. :(
 
The only thing that makes 4WD easier is the fact that you have X% of FWD, along with your RWD.

This means (With majority of power sent to rear) that your rear will stay loose, and the FWD makes countersteer fast and snappy.

If you have ever spun a FWD car in racing and attempt to countersteer the difference, you'd see that it would either correct immediately, or snap in the opposite direction from too much countersteer.

Which explains the lack of wheel angle in 4WD Drift.

With RWD, the Front wheels are simply meant to guide the car round corners, while the Rear keeps it loose.

It is entirely possible to drift 4WD, unless the car was designed with stability in mind(GT-R, Mitsubishi, Subaru)

Cars like the Audi R8 and the Premium Lamorghinis are more suited to drift, for their ~30/~70 weight dist.
 
To my understanding it's often seen as an assist. I don't regularly drift, but I can see why 4WD is often looked down upon.
 
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Sorry. Anyway, as I said before, I will only forcibly remove someone from a drift lobby solely for them using a 4WD vehicle if I created the lobby and stated, in the title, that RWD cars are only allowed. That, and if the person hasn't accepted those terms after being asked to change once in the room. However, if the person is being a 'brute' with their 4WD vehicle, I will remove them whether I created the lobby or not.
 
machate-man
Cars like the Audi R8 and the Premium Lamorghinis are more suited to drift, for their ~30/~70 weight dist.
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Agree with your other thoughts, but this one is imo not true. :sly:

For drifting, the weight balance of the car is very important. A MR car with the engine in the middle, 60% of the weight on the rear, is bad for drifting. When cornerning, the g-forces kicking in, your rear will getting much heavier than the front, the un-balance will now getting hard to control with the throttle & you will spin out. :yuck:

The car has to be balanced, at least 50% of the weight need to be on the front. That's why they are using cars with front engines for drifting. :sly:
 
I've gotten kicked from drift lobbies for running an MP4-12C (was asked to work a decent drift tune on it) despite the fact that it was stock power and weight and was running Comfort Hard tires. I generally don't use this sort of car, not because it "isn't a drift car" but because the combination of poor balance and excessive power make for lousy lines and it's all I can do to not ram into other people.
 
adamotten
I imagine it's very difficult to drift a 500+ BHP car using a controller pad. I use a steering wheel, it's boring and crap with 4WD.
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I'm using a controller and I drift 787B with CH tires.
If it has enough power to spin the tires, I can drift it.
I don't drift FWD unless it's the GT5P Honda Civic.
Nismo GTi
Here`s why:


Notice the different steering angles?
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Yes, the Audi from Viking land counter steers at a different angle yet counter steers just as much as the Silvia, but at a different angle.
 
seanneedscar
Here is why.

Most of the 'drifters' on gt5 are d1 nerds. And in d1, only rwd cars are drifting

Most of these nerds dont even consider 4wd to be drifting, but 'powersliding'

On top of this, (and you cant deny this) 4wd drifting is considerably easier than rwd. Face it, its easy mode. Hey, I prefer 4WD drifting myself, but you cannot deny that it is easier. Youre more in control.

These nerds also feel that you drift through turns faster, so, maybe at one time in their life, a 4WD drifter ran them off the road, and now they forever hate them.

What I do is, use cars that most people dont know are 4WD. Here are a few:

RUF CTR2
Impreza or FTO Super touring car
Lancia HF (the premium one)

When I use these cars, people leave me alone.
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Hey man in certain D1 events they do use 4wd and I like to drift and I started drifting 4wd cars but moved on to rwd.
Ps not trying to be rude
 
Just get 5 to 10 people to all make rooms called "Real Drifting only" and kick anything that's not a FF or 4wd car and watch the forums go nuts.
 
jedi09
It's because 4WD drift cars naturally need to take turns faster than pure RWD drift cars (even with the power distributed mostly to the rear). I can't tell you how many times I've been bumped off track mid drift because a guy in a GT-R/Evo/Rally-mobile had to pass me to maintain his drift. Also RWD drifting is more difficult, don't try to convince me otherwise.
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This Hard A$$ Bulls*** right here is the same reason why I despise the nascar and drag rooms. Most of these people are total pricks. I stick to the REAL racing. My personal choice is Nurburgring with no assists.
My best advice to anybody getting kicked for petty BS is stay out of the prick rooms and stick with the core racers. not the NFS/Forza noobs.
 
RoadRocket77
This Hard A$$ Bulls*** right here is the same reason why I despise the nascar and drag rooms. Most of these people are total pricks. I stick to the REAL racing. My personal choice is Nurburgring with no assists.
My best advice to anybody getting kicked for petty BS is stay out of the prick rooms and stick with the core racers. not the NFS/Forza noobs.
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Uhh, were talking about drifting, not racing... and were not total pricks, we just prefer to have a room under control and well organized and nice for the other players. If it means we seclude awd "drifters", well then thats what we do.
 
Nismo34
Uhh, were talking about drifting, not racing... and were not total pricks, we just prefer to have a room under control and well organized and nice for the other players. If it means we seclude awd "drifters", well then thats what we do.
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I'm just saying, some 4wd racers are good drivers. I drift in my ZZII all the time and I have excellent control. If there is someone else in front of me, I wait and pass SAFELY before the next section.
The ones that just mash the gas and think everything's cool, they are complete idiots and deserve the boot.
I just have a problem with some hosts thinking that an accident is worth kicking... example: My last nascar race was 3 months ago and the host kicked me for crashing ONCE and it wasn't even my fault. the guy in front of me slammed on the brakes for no reason and I swerved to avoid a collision penalty and possibly taking out the rest of the pack.
My last drift event... I got kicked as soon as I brought out my ZZII... WTF?
 
RoadRocket77
I'm just saying, some 4wd racers are good drivers. I drift in my ZZII all the time and I have excellent control. If there is someone else in front of me, I wait and pass SAFELY before the next section.
The ones that just mash the gas and think everything's cool, they are complete idiots and deserve the boot.
I just have a problem with some hosts thinking that an accident is worth kicking... example: My last nascar race was 3 months ago and the host kicked me for crashing ONCE and it wasn't even my fault. the guy in front of me slammed on the brakes for no reason and I swerved to avoid a collision penalty and possibly taking out the rest of the pack.
My last drift event... I got kicked as soon as I brought out my ZZII... WTF?
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Well I have only ever encountered 1 good AWD "Drifter". The others (Not all, just majority) ruin it by screwing everything up and giving everyone a bad name. AWD "Drifting" isnt Drifting though, therefore, we dont allow them in our lobbies.
 
Nismo34
Well I have only ever encountered 1 good AWD "Drifter". The others (Not all, just majority) ruin it by screwing everything up and giving everyone a bad name. AWD "Drifting" isnt Drifting though, therefore, we dont allow them in our lobbies.
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Why I'm happy as a clam with 2 lap races on Nurburgring in my RX-7.
 
keifer1122
Hey man in certain D1 events they do use 4wd and I like to drift and I started drifting 4wd cars but moved on to rwd.
Ps not trying to be rude
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What the Hell you're talking about, the OP is right, in D1, they dont use 4wd cars at all. The Evo 9, for example was converted to Rwd.

Now I couldnt care less of what you do in a game and I'm not a drifter so yeah.
 
i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.
 
RX-7_FD3S
What the Hell you're talking about, the OP is right, in D1, they dont use 4wd cars at all. The Evo 9, for example was converted to Rwd.

Now I couldnt care less of what you do in a game and I'm not a drifter so yeah.
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Also the movie tokyo drift. all cars was converted to rwd.
 
angrykoala_89
i dont see why people hate AWD drifters, cause i see more noobs with FR's that i see people with AWD, most people i run into with AWD are awesome. i just think most FR's are trash, like the people driving them. just facts here.
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Obvious troll is obviously stupid. Stop seeking an argument.
 
Some people online are just petty.

Drifting and power sliding are the same in my books. It takes some measure of skill to slide around a car to begin with.

But we have to admit, the drifting forum usually has more anal retentive members.
 

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