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dalmaximus
Why do I find it So hard to find like minded racers who use steering wheels, drive fast cars and use no assists, on real world tracks.
I've had this game since it came out and can say that I've only had about 8 races where the other drivers are happy to drive without armbands on.
Why do so many insist on driving with tc, abs and all the other rubbish that takes away the skill of the drivers input.
If anyone reads this and plays like I do, leave me your username and save me from the child like racers.
 
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dalmaximus
Why do I find it So hard to find like minded racers who use steering wheels, drive fast cars and use no assists, on real world tracks.
I've had this since it came out and can say that I've only had about 8 races where the other drivers are happy to drive without armbands on.
Why do so many insist on driving with tc, abs and all the other rubbish that takes away the skill of the drivers input.
If anyone reads this and plays like I do, leave me your username and save me from the child like racers.
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Careful. That last sentence could be construed as inflammatory. Just because people use aids doesn't make them better/worse than you. It's just different.
 
dalmaximus
Why do I find it So hard to find like minded racers who use steering wheels, drive fast cars and use no assists, on real world tracks.
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Search a little harder? Check out the online racing section, PLENTY of racing series in there that are doing what you are looking for. And who cares if they are using a wheel? Controller players can be good too.
 
I use a DS3 and I'm a clean racer. I don't use any assists except for ABS 1. If the requirements for racing aren't to my liking, I don't enter. I'm not picky though, so I'll drive with all skill levels and any assists. My point is that maybe you should be more open. You should kill the competition with your skill and steering wheel, so you should be happy, right?👍

Just have fun, no matter what room you end up in! :)
 
I thought almost everyone used ABS 1? What's wrong with that?
Whats wrong with any aids for that matter? Besides Skid Recovery, every aid only slows you down so why does it matter?
 
Its a game and for some people the aids make it more fun and for others no aids is more fun remember the word FUN.
 
ChOs3n
Its a game and for some people the aids make it more fun and for others no aids is more fun remember the word FUN.
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^This, it's only a game and you should have no problem with people enjoying it however they choose. Not everyone has time to practice regularly to become good and most aren't born with alien skillz. Take it or leave it.
 
TankAss95
Perhaps god (God or god?) has other things in mind for you to do.
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Maybe these are the things he has sent to test your faith in God. So maybe a little prayer for your games salvation and a way to use GT5 credits to pay for your sins.

I believe Shem could come in now and perform an exorcism if you need it. ;)
 
I use DS3, but I never use any assists, including ABS assist. I prefer to race in rooms with sports hard or less restrictions for road cars, and racing hard for race cars, they tend to have clean racers. Some of the rooms that I hosted do not allow ABS, with comfort soft or med, usually when I want tight race with no tuning allowed, for example i hosted similar generation cars room on some weekend, eg : R32-34 GTR, Lancer Evo I-IV, Subaru GC-GD, Integra DC2-DC5, TVR Cerbera 6. I am not particularly fast, but i prefer realistic challenges, to me that's what FUN is :)
 
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You are my hero!
 
I've always been behind the idea to be able to filter out lobbies based on controller type.
DS3/wheel. Not saying all wheel players are good and all DS3 users are bad, but I would much like to race against people with a wheel as I feel i can trust them a bit more.

People who go to the effort of buying a wheel tend not be the type of person you beg the host to get rid of, but someone you can rely on for good close racing.
 
No the reason why there are people who're dependent on driving aids like TCS or abs is because they're not used to keep the car in their hands without diverting off the track, the usage of those assistant stuff does't necessarily make the inexperienced guys worse than you, or vice versa.
 
dalmaximus
Why do I find it So hard to find like minded racers who use steering wheels, drive fast cars and use no assists, on real world tracks.
I've had this game since it came out and can say that I've only had about 8 races where the other drivers are happy to drive without armbands on.
Why do so many insist on driving with tc, abs and all the other rubbish that takes away the skill of the drivers input.
If anyone reads this and plays like I do, leave me your username and save me from the child like racers.
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I use assists for cars that use them in real life.

For example, all cars before 1972 = no ABS.

As for traction control, I found that it helps me being more aggressive in corners when it's off.

But geez, it's annoying when people come here crying about how they hate racing against people who drive with some assists. If you are that good, you shouldn't mind that.

And seriously, who gives a crap if you win or lose online ? Is there real money to be won ? Did you pay to enter the race ? I'd rather play against an even field of "pros" and "rookies" with assists or not than playing against good drivers and others that can barely make it out of the first corner.

Please.

And I bet you drive with racing softs.
 
The ABS in GT5 is totally different than the actual ABS in real life. there is no actual mechanism of ABS simulated in GT5, ABS in GT5 is nothing but a glorified brake assists that will apply full brake force without locking up, the numbers of ABS strength only applies to how much the steering can still be used while braking hard.

Try to drive a real car with ABS, brake as hard as you can while turning into a corner, and feel the brake pedal ... when ABS system detect skids/ tire lock up, it will kick in, you will feel pulsation on the brake pedal and the brake distance would lengthen considerably when the wheel is also turning. Try that in GT5, the car will lose speed so quickly, you won't believe it can be done in real life. Then do so in GT5 WITHOUT ABS, try to do threshold braking, you will feel that when the tires are about to lock up, the car will lose balance .. I recommend to try 4/2 brake balance for a start, if it understeers, use 5/3, then gradually increase to 6/4, 7/5 till you find the sweet spot. With DS3, I usually use 5/3 or 6/4, if using racing tire, I can increase to 7/5

Another notes, when going at high speed, eg above 200kmh, without ABS, we can brake fully without locking, then we need to gradually decrease brake force as the car losing it's speed, much like in real life, practice and practice is the key
 
Ben78
I use assists for cars that use them in real life.

For example, all cars before 1972 = no ABS.
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All good, except that with most cars in GT5, the braking with ABS off is totally unrealistic. Absolutely nothing like real life. I've owned over 20 cars over the years & have yet to experience one whose tyres screech & which slides all over the place at the slightest touch of the brake pedal. ABS on 1 is much more realistic.
 
@Jaywalker: Is the Brake-pedal on your Wheel like the real ones ??
=> No => you can´t get the feedback a real pedal gives you etc.
But I know what you are wanting to say ;)

I Use no assist (ABS1 but I can drive without it) and use DS3.
Brake balance adjustment to 2/1 and I almost never get blocking brakes ;)

I´m a very clean driver and I played online since beginning. I even have a Trophy in the FGTC for that :D (I try my best to drive hard but fair => a bit of trading paint never harmed anyone; and I only change the line once for defence)

@OP: As others said: Enter a league that fits you the most. The online Racing section of GTP is your place of choice.
 
maSonn09
I've always been behind the idea to be able to filter out lobbies based on controller type.
DS3/wheel. Not saying all wheel players are good and all DS3 users are bad, but I would much like to race against people with a wheel as I feel i can trust them a bit more.

People who go to the effort of buying a wheel tend not be the type of person you beg the host to get rid of, but someone you can rely on for good close racing.
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that's ******** btw. There's the same amount of people sucking with wheels and controllers. The only way to control the people you're racing with is to enter a league of some sort with strict rules and stewart. Wheel or not, assist or not, it's not really that that matter in GT5, it's the capacity of the people to respect someone over the internet and stick to rules.
 
@ KingSakery

Yep, I understand re the pulsating effect of real ABS vs. the Logitech setup. The point I was trying to make was that no real car without ABS will lock up almost instantly, with hardly any pressure applied to the brake pedal. :)
 
It's mind boggling that some people said braking without ABS is so hard, that slightest pressure will lock up tires . .. I am using DS3, but I can modulate the brakes just fine, lock ups do occur if I brake too hard too late into a corner, but usually I can do threshold braking just fine, I have played online for more than a year, never used ABS, sometimes people I met Online ask me how can I brake without locking up, even when using comfort hard, yes I do drift without ABS as well, and I use trail braking a lot to adjust off speed quickly, e brake is used to adjust angle.

Keep practicing, it will only get better. For a starter, you might want to get DS2 controller with some sort of converter, the face buttons on DS2 has higher range of pressure, you would literally need to press harder and deeper to get full brake and throttle, I did practice with it at the beginning of my GT5 days, mainly licence tests.
Sometimes I still use my original DS2 controller that is already 5 years old, it gave me better range of control over my braking and throttle than the DS3 that came with PS3 .... strange I know ...but if u watch me race online, you'll know that I almost never use more than 80% brake force when braking from less than 200kmh and I can do this with a Dual Shock
 

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