Why Heel & Toe

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I also love how he blips the throttle when exiting a corner.

I only have a DFP, but are you faster when you blip the gas when you downshift to match the revs better? I don't know anything about this technique so... :scared: And matching the revs means the highest revs the car can do right?

Yes, I notice that going into the corner he does the heel and toe to match the revs. I see that he also pumps the accelarator when in the corner. Is that to loosen the rear end of the car on purpose to get it to point in the right direction because of under steer or is it to control oversteer? :dunce:
 
I think often it has to do with the pedal size, shape, and spacing. On the G25, use the side of my foot. In my RX7, I have to use more of my heel because the pedals are different...and I have relatively small feet. :)

You know what they say about people with small feet?
 
i was always under the impression that heel toe was only really benificial in mid engined cars. To keep the balance of the car before and during a corner when driving at speeds.

i have a g25 and only heel toe when i'm driving the likes of the ford gt as its mid engined. I could be wrong but it always worked in my mr2
 
I see that he also pumps the accelarator when in the corner. Is that to loosen the rear end of the car on purpose to get it to point in the right direction because of under steer or is it to control oversteer? :dunce:

Yeah, he pumps to make the car more neutral. Obviously if the rear is sliding there is no real chance of understeer.
 
Yes, I notice that going into the corner he does the heel and toe to match the revs. I see that he also pumps the accelarator when in the corner. Is that to loosen the rear end of the car on purpose to get it to point in the right direction because of under steer or is it to control oversteer? :dunce:

It´s a driving technique some use through corners. They put the car in a very slight drift, to get the nose pointing where they want it to be able to get on the throttle a little earlier when exiting a corner.
 
It doesn't take away from what those rally drivers of old used to do. Absolutely incredible.



Wow... Stupid Flappy Paddle gearbox FTL!..

Whoever invented those should be rewarded with a swift kick in the onions..
 
It´s a driving technique some use through corners. They put the car in a very slight drift, to get the nose pointing where they want it to be able to get on the throttle a little earlier when exiting a corner.

Yes exactly. Senna used it alot in F1 too, there's a great vid of him at Spa in '91. Too bad that none of the drivers in F1 don't do it anymore. But I also heard that senna did it because the F1 car had a turbo, to keep that at the highest all of the time. I don't know if that's true...
 
Yes exactly. Senna used it alot in F1 too, there's a great vid of him at Spa in '91. Too bad that none of the drivers in F1 don't do it anymore. But I also heard that senna did it because the F1 car had a turbo, to keep that at the highest all of the time. I don't know if that's true...

It's likely, keeping the revs up and keeping the turbo spooling for better exit performance.
 
Well I don't know what counts as old, but I don't suppose I'm anywhere near there just yet...

Anyway, I also prefer the challenge of getting to know the controls intimately, that way you really do feel like you're the one driving.
I play GPL a fair bit, and LFS from time to time, and, particularly in GPL, heel & toe is mandatory if you're going to get around a lap with any pace whilst avoiding stuffing it into the trees in the braking zones :scared:

Heel & toe is equally applicable to any drivetrain as an extra layer of control, e.g. it's possible to control the level of under-steer into a corner in a FWD car too...

Modern cars, of course, are less likely to leave you maimed if you don't get the controls spot on, but advanced vehicle control is always relevant.
 
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