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I hope some times back
Why not Goodwood Hilclimb in GT7
- Thread starter TheRacer94
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- Scuderia_Paul
Presumably a licencing thing, but that is assuming PD deems it worthy of inclusion. I have always wanted the hillclimb to return as I loved it in GT6. I spent so much time trying to make the tiniest gains in my favourite cars.
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i would like to see it come back. i have just seen the ford supervan 4. now that looked very cool
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- Normalaatsra
GT7 was at Goodwood FoS this year but they've been primarily using the Goodwood Circuit to demonstrate the game in their own booth unlike back then when they've had individual demo setups of GT6 at certain manufacturer booths with the Hill Climb course to run. This year they had a Gr.3 time trial competition available only to media
They should be adding it, they've held the exclusive license to the track for over five years. Nobody else can include it in a game thanks to PD.
No reason it'd take up that much data, there isn't much detail to it, it's mostly a corridor of trees then plain mountains/rocks. No big built up areas or anything.
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- pedrocor
A 20km hill climb with some trees, rocks or cliffs as only side decoration, not pit lanes, stands and so on would have bigger data than Nurburgring 24h circuit, with almost 26 km of road, gravel or grass traps, stands, pits, the all Mercedes Arena and so on.
That being said, I believe the way GT series went with GTS and GT7 is almost purely circuit racing, not time trial, as time trial is almost pointless multiplayer wise. So don't expect hill climbs or real rally sections to be added any time soon or ever.
Since it as the Goodwood Circuit, licensing shouldn't be an issue.
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I think PD should have added a whole bunch of fantasy point-to-point tracks anyway, for all the awesome group-B cars they have included.
Fantasy hill climb tracks, no licensing needed, relatively quick to make. But for some reason we cannot have that and I wonder why. Probably because PD is weirdly hardcore fixated on real existing tracks thinking this is still GT sport.
Fantasy hill climb tracks, no licensing needed, relatively quick to make. But for some reason we cannot have that and I wonder why. Probably because PD is weirdly hardcore fixated on real existing tracks thinking this is still GT sport.
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Licenses aren't granted through simple association. Paying the Goodwood Estate for the use of the Circuit, is simply a different "thing" to paying them for the use of the FOS and Hill Climb course. Goodwood is a business worth hundreds of millions of pounds. I doubt there's any technical reason PD can't bring back the Hill Climb course, it always seemed the most 'next gen' looking course on the PS3 to me, so I suspect it's simply the case that licensing the venue (and Event) is simply too high of a cost. We all have our preferences, but if PD/Sony could license (for example) three other tracks, or the FOS Hillclimb, you can't blame them for overlooking it.
PPIHC is a different animal. I think the assumption is that PD have the license as part of the sponsorship deal. There's a multitude of reasons why they might do that, and not include the track in the game, some legitimate, some perhaps more nefarious. Let's not forget, it's only the say so of another developer that PD have the exclusive license - and realistically the only way they'd know the in's and out's of that deal, is if they'd been offered the same contract, and could not justify the expense themselves - again, making a decision based on (effective) licensing cost.
The TL;DR is that just because there's a simple association between two things, doesn't mean there's not a BIG price tag attached.
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- GUNSLINGER_R450
With all due respect, I have worked in motorsport in marketing and event production for a couple of decades now. I clearly understand the scope of the potential costs involved and the way licenses are negotiated. My comment reflects my feelings on how PD approached sponsorship and marketing of this game which with my background seems like some missed opportunity.
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Okay, with your background, put a value on the license of the Goodwood Festival of Speed and the Hillclimb, put a value on Goodwood motor circuit, put a value on the PPIHC sponsorship deal and put a value of the inclusion of either, both or all three, to PD/Sony.
Quantify that opportunity.
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I am not interested in a debate. I would need to know a lot of particulars that I frankly don't wish to research to argue with you.
I don't follow your logic? Why would CM have been offered an exclusive license? Tracks are licensed on a per-game basic. CM approached PPIHC to include the track for Dirt Rally 1, they negotiated a deal to include it. They would have then gone back to PPIHC to include the track in Dirt Rally 2 only to be told it was now not available. They don't need to know any "in's and out's", they were simply told it was off the table, simple as.
It's confirmed exclusive, there is no reason for the developer to lie publicly. He didn't even name GT, that was the Eurogamer author who clearly had been told that privately in his earlier interview with CM.
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Kaz went on record in 2016 to say they wanted to include it, but didn't know when. So clearly the intention was/is there.
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