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- Sacramento California
- FT_Ant
Understeer? 
No such thing.
No such thing.
Why 'Reverse drift'?
- Thread starter Msportvideos
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I actually can do it pretty consistently in the game. I am working on it in real life too actually. And I saw it quite a lot at Formula Drift Atlanta. Matt Powers, Ross Petty, Tanner Foust, Tommy Roberts(not FD) Daigo Saito, Naoki Nakamura, should I keep going?
I agree, reverse entries don't make you a badass. Being consistent with them is another ballgame. How was the backward entry the worst drift in the video? Yeah it wasn't perfect but it surely wasn't the worst.I mean don't get me wrong, that's cool to set a goal and strive for it and everything, but reverse entries do not automatically make you a badass. In fact, both of the GT5 reverse entries posted in this thread are pretty sad drifts. They both understeer upon approach to the corner. Just because it's reverse entry doesn't make it a good drift, it needs more than that. It needs smoothness and consistency. For example on that LayNLow video, the backwards entry was probably his worst drift in the whole video, yet he made it the focus of the video.
This forum is so shallow sometimes it makes my head hurt.
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- AngryBenko
It's fun to do, looks awesome, and gives you an advantage in competitions.
I know it doesn't work in drift trials because the point system is flawed but who cares? I'm sure everybody prefers drifting with actual people haha
e.g.
It wasn't so much a reverse entry as it was just a huge 90 degree entry at about 120mph entry speed, and yes I made it round the corner. You'll see proof when I release TSS Vid 1 in a month or so
If you make this in a higher resolution, I would definitely make this my new wallpaper. Props. Also, does anyone know what race track that is?
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- 3,799
- Ireland
- powellx234
AngryBenko
Laguna seca.
.... I know how to drift, which is why I play with reverse entries now.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jKMdA20z5ZM
Go into the video to 5:29 and let me know what you think.
Oh and I am jnwmje if you didn't notice it.
Please rate and comment.
And as for the guy saying the hundred laps before completing, this was during a comp.
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- Central Louisiana
- AldonzaGaming
It's fun to do, looks awesome, and gives you an advantage in competitions.
I know it doesn't work in drift trials because the point system is flawed but who cares? I'm sure everybody prefers drifting with actual people haha
e.g.
It wasn't so much a reverse entry as it was just a huge 90 degree entry at about 120mph entry speed, and yes I made it round the corner. You'll see proof when I release TSS Vid 1 in a month or so
I second that
Jump to 5:15 if you cant wait that long 
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- Toronto
- SAi-66
most drifters in gt5 are getting the wrong idea about the so called "kawabata perfect drift"
the focus of this is definitely going pass 90deg, but what most ppl dont realize is a perfect drift requires a backward entry along with the right clipping point and exit.
if at any moment during a drift that the front end's momentum is greater than the rear end's no matter if your car is sideways or not. it is considered an understeer.
not sure if i explained this clearly, but at most time ppl who claimed perfect drift/backward entry are frauds to me.
the focus of this is definitely going pass 90deg, but what most ppl dont realize is a perfect drift requires a backward entry along with the right clipping point and exit.
if at any moment during a drift that the front end's momentum is greater than the rear end's no matter if your car is sideways or not. it is considered an understeer.
not sure if i explained this clearly, but at most time ppl who claimed perfect drift/backward entry are frauds to me.
- 2,151
- Germany
- x_XNyordiaX_x
Perfect explanation
Reverse entries are just one of those things that is blown way out of proportion by the GT5 kiddies. Mainly because you simply can't do it consistently, so to try to do it a lot in real life would get expensive fast. Thus you don't see it much in the real world. The videos people post of their GT5 reverse entries are usually after hundreds of laps of screwing the pooch over and over. You don't see those laps though, you only see the one time they barely pulled it off.
This forum is so shallow sometimes it makes my head hurt.
Indeed, and the amount of times they do it wrong in front of other people, that's what get's me off... I don't care if yo utry it when you're alone, but not in 3 man tandems. Tandems > personal showing off.
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- Toronto
- SAi-66
to further extent my explanation regarding backward entry
failed backward entry
the fc in front had pulled an entry over 90degrees, but front end loses traction before apex and the front pulls forward resulting less than 90degrees. this is the where it understeered. 99% of the ppl dont see this, but this is the differences between a fail/perfect drift.
successful backward entry
here is the famous kawabata entry. most ppl watched the clip from option video on youtube, but it doesn't really show how he pulls off the angle. in this clip he maintained a 90+deg entry from start to end. a smooth flowing drift, a perfect drift.
and lastly there are ones who did a backward entry with understeer and not able to hit the apex at all
i personally dont even want to starting talking about ppl who claimed their perfect drift when they can't even hit the apex.
but here's a video
failed backward entry
the fc in front had pulled an entry over 90degrees, but front end loses traction before apex and the front pulls forward resulting less than 90degrees. this is the where it understeered. 99% of the ppl dont see this, but this is the differences between a fail/perfect drift.
successful backward entry
here is the famous kawabata entry. most ppl watched the clip from option video on youtube, but it doesn't really show how he pulls off the angle. in this clip he maintained a 90+deg entry from start to end. a smooth flowing drift, a perfect drift.
and lastly there are ones who did a backward entry with understeer and not able to hit the apex at all
i personally dont even want to starting talking about ppl who claimed their perfect drift when they can't even hit the apex.
but here's a video
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- dukie827
"reverse drift"
Drifting backwards? I want to see that, haha.
Drifting backwards? I want to see that, haha.
This is why
The Near Perfect Drift
that´s awesome
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- Coventry
- XE_Crook
- CrookZr
Backwards entries are played out.
I know this is Forza(and you guys will probably flame me for posting this) but 180 degree entries are so much cooler, and whilst everyone in this video went backwards, this guy went 180 and pulled it back(He's mega consistent too, he pulls these entries all day)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojotrixie/6266016804/in/photostream
It's not a photo btw, it's a video.
I know this is Forza(and you guys will probably flame me for posting this) but 180 degree entries are so much cooler, and whilst everyone in this video went backwards, this guy went 180 and pulled it back(He's mega consistent too, he pulls these entries all day)
http://www.flickr.com/photos/jojotrixie/6266016804/in/photostream
It's not a photo btw, it's a video.
- 2,624
- The Hague
- Duman079
Sorry but that looks ugly, sometimes it happens when i try reverse entry and it pisses me off. You ruin the whole line for you buddy chasing, I never drift solo anymore so this doesn't interest me at all... My buddy gunz always has sick entries, he can always see the pits at Tsukuba
.Reverse entries on GTP are kinda introduced by Sai-66 ( HKSD1 ) , at that time barely anyone could do it, I watched his videos and learned how to do it and I could do it better and better everytime I tried.
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- Coventry
- XE_Crook
- CrookZr
Sorry but that looks ugly, sometimes it happens when i try reverse entry and it pisses me off. You ruin the whole line for you buddy chasing, I never drift solo anymore so this doesn't interest me at all... My buddy gunz always has sick entries, he can always see the pits at Tsukuba
Reverse entries on GTP are kinda introduced by Sai-66 ( HKSD1 ) , at that time barely anyone could do it, I watched his videos and learned how to do it and I could do it better and better everytime I tried.
The point that I was trying to put across is that everyone in that tandem was going for the same line, and even though the lead car went 180, they all could still follow him regardless. If your a good drifter, you should be able to adapt your own line to mirror the lead cars.
- 2,624
- The Hague
- Duman079
I guess I'm not good enough to follow someone who suddenly turns his car around like in a Fast and furious movie and then turns it back ( and in the meantime looses 100000 mph speed ).
OR it depends on how close you follow your buddy what makes it ( in this case ) for me, impossible to do the same or adjust my pace to his.
Not sure though Í'm just saying.
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- Canada
I'd say I have to agree with Duman on this one, for a few reasons. I don't think doing entries like that consistently is in any way easy, but I just find it unattractive and unappealing.
It would be possible to "follow" somebody through a corner as they did that, and even mimic the movement, but it would be impossible to "tandem" with someone doing that move. Even though it is banned from most comps, and discouraged in tandem rooms, it is possible, although very difficult, to tandem through a true reverse entry. That's the first reason I don't really like it.
The other aspect I don't really like is the inconsistency ofthe drift angel...I already know I'm gonna have a tough time explaining this, but I'll try lol. To me, a true reverse entry is one where the car rotates past 90 degrees, and maintains that angel through the entire entry into the corner. To me, what that guy did is what happens to me all the time when I am practicing reverse entries...I innitiate the drift, go past 90 degrees, come back under 90 degrees, then carry on with the drift. This usually happens when I am going to "come up short" on the entry, ie I don't have enough innitial speed to maintain that over 90 angel all the way into the corner, so I need to straighten out a bit to keep my speed up. In that vid, you'll see that he comes back under 90 degrees while he is still on the straight, before he actually turns into the corner. If he would be able to go that far past 90, and maintain an angel of over 90 degrees to the apex (or at least to past the start of the corner), then ya, he might have something special there...otherwise, meh. I realize I'm being a little picky, but oh well haha.
Like I said, I don't think what he did was easy, but to me, it's not a reverse entry. It's more of a straight-line trick that he linked to a corner (just like doing a 360 on the straight and then linking it to a corner).
I will say that watching that vid makes me extremely jealous of Forza's livery editor, as well as the exhaust notes....we got screwed lol
It would be possible to "follow" somebody through a corner as they did that, and even mimic the movement, but it would be impossible to "tandem" with someone doing that move. Even though it is banned from most comps, and discouraged in tandem rooms, it is possible, although very difficult, to tandem through a true reverse entry. That's the first reason I don't really like it.
The other aspect I don't really like is the inconsistency ofthe drift angel...I already know I'm gonna have a tough time explaining this, but I'll try lol. To me, a true reverse entry is one where the car rotates past 90 degrees, and maintains that angel through the entire entry into the corner. To me, what that guy did is what happens to me all the time when I am practicing reverse entries...I innitiate the drift, go past 90 degrees, come back under 90 degrees, then carry on with the drift. This usually happens when I am going to "come up short" on the entry, ie I don't have enough innitial speed to maintain that over 90 angel all the way into the corner, so I need to straighten out a bit to keep my speed up. In that vid, you'll see that he comes back under 90 degrees while he is still on the straight, before he actually turns into the corner. If he would be able to go that far past 90, and maintain an angel of over 90 degrees to the apex (or at least to past the start of the corner), then ya, he might have something special there...otherwise, meh. I realize I'm being a little picky, but oh well haha.
Like I said, I don't think what he did was easy, but to me, it's not a reverse entry. It's more of a straight-line trick that he linked to a corner (just like doing a 360 on the straight and then linking it to a corner).
I will say that watching that vid makes me extremely jealous of Forza's livery editor, as well as the exhaust notes....we got screwed lol
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- maveric-25 / Redsuns-Maveric
In my opinion, reverse entries are great... if you do them in a solo run or if its on purpose with a partner for a double reverse entry. On drift battles they shouldn't be allowed because basically 99% of the time the following car will hit because he's not expecting a sudden loss of speed from the lead car.
Here's some of my best reverse entries caught on video:
Second entry in this video
Here's some of my best reverse entries caught on video:
Second entry in this video
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- mrvajj
Who was that trying to use a fax machine in the background? The noise was really distracting.
